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Title: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on September 06, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
Everything has an owner's club these days so I though the PS4 and ES4 deserved one as well.

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_ps4-bitdriver-6.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=ps4-bitdriver-6.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_ps4-bitdriver-5.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=ps4-bitdriver-5.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_ps4-bitdriver-3.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=ps4-bitdriver-3.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_ps4-bitdriver-2.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=ps4-bitdriver-2.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_ps4-bitdriver-1.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=ps4-bitdriver-1.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_IMG_3796.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=IMG_3796.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_IMG_3702.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=IMG_3702.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_MobilePhoto3sep2010123337.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=MobilePhoto3sep2010123337.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_IMG_3727.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=IMG_3727.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_IMG_3718.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=IMG_3718.jpg)(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/th_IMG_3713.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/andreasodegard/Leatherman/?action=view&current=IMG_3713.jpg)

Some facts:
Weight: 54 grams/1.9oz
Size: 58 x 20 x 13mm
Colors: red, black, blue

Tools:
Needlenose pliers w/wire cutter (and wire strippers on ES4)
Scissors
Blade
Flathead screwdriver
Bottle opener
Wood/metal file
Phillips screwdriver

Supported tools:
Anything you can steal from another Squirt model including main tool scissors, awl etc.

User serviceable with a T6 Torx screwdriver (2x needed, one for each side) although some later models have come with rivets instead of pivots.

Videos:
My review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp1z_IpKl5w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpgrFBo0D98

My bit and microbit adapter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxZP_LAHYd0

TheLateBoyScout's review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLfyo1VrX3g

playsguitar's review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f_kZPfI7fU

tabletopreviews' review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bsXtFGvLhc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_TKH115ksw

pelahale's review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WXymkZQgjE

speedogg138's review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC3U2CfDrQw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs27e0CWLpU

Can I mod it?
Yes, the PS4/ES4 is bery easy to mod as long as it has pivots. Yours truly have replaced the file with an awl and small flathead screwdriver (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,17910.msg415970.html#msg415970) from a P4. There is also a key mod on EDCforums (http://edcforums.com/showthread.php/75245-One-key-to-rule-them-all-Squirt-PS4-custom-Key-mod)as well as a saw/serrated blade mod on backpackinglight (http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=33095) (and probably others too).

Are there any accessories?
Not officially. LM makes a small sheath for the Micra that might work, and used to make one for the Squirts that you might be able to dig up somewhere. You can however add both a removable normal hex bit driver and a removable microbit driver to either the PS4 or ES4 very easily (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,22499.0.html).

I don't have one  :( Where can I get one and how much is it?
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=leatherman+squirt&x=0&y=0) have very decent prices in the US. For international customers I can recommend the eBay seller I got mine from (http://myworld.ebay.com/smartgiftidea/). They are usually a lot more expensive locally, $100 in Norway and £35 in the UK for example.




So, who else has one, and do you actually use it?  :D

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Chako on September 07, 2010, 01:39:15 AM
$100 in Norway!  :ahhh
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on September 07, 2010, 07:24:28 AM
Well, technically you can't get the PS4 in Norway - not out yet. A few places have the P4 and S4. 599 nok (http://www.nomaden.no/main/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=7222&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=1), $100. Did actually find a place that has it cheaper, "only" 449 NOK (http://komplettfritid.no/product/leatherman-squirt-p4-blue?utm_source=kelkoono&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=kelkooclick&utm_term=Leatherman%20Squirt%20P4,%20Blue).
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Tsquare on September 07, 2010, 06:43:36 PM
Wow, talk about inflated pricing.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on September 07, 2010, 06:59:30 PM
A shop I was in today had some Juice models on the display. The S2 was 899 NOK, the same with the C2, and the CS4 was 1099 NOK. Thats $145/177
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: fb on September 08, 2010, 03:32:47 PM
Quote
speedogg138's review:
I have no problems with the scissors spring, so it looks like speedogg138's PS4 was made on an monday morning ....
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Agent X68 on September 09, 2010, 04:33:32 PM
I have got a PS4.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on September 19, 2010, 02:30:34 AM
Seriously, so few people care about this thing?  :pok:  :(

Look at how mighty it is!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5000735415_67444100b7_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Chako on September 19, 2010, 02:52:05 AM
I have a few.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Black Rose on September 21, 2010, 03:03:18 AM
Mountain Equipment Co-op here in Canada now carries these (PS4).

Thinking of picking one of these up.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on September 21, 2010, 07:24:01 AM
Do it, so this thread gets some activity  :ahhh
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Shorty66 on September 21, 2010, 11:39:37 AM
I recently ordered one from ebay and hope it has got screws.
I will post my mods here for sure ;)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: TheRodfather on September 22, 2010, 03:30:41 AM
I didn't realize we were supposed to post here... so.  I have a riveted(bleh) PS4 in black
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Nikos on September 22, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Got a red one from gunga a while back. Nice little tool that one. I keep it hanging off a Vic belt thingy and have been carrying it around ever since I got it. It doesn't see much use though, as the Spirit gets all the joy... :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on October 01, 2010, 04:50:05 AM
I bought one right when they came out so I have Torx screws instead of rivets. I love it. I don't really need another one, except for a mini Altoids box survival kit I am working on, but next time I am in a REI or an EMS store I think if I see a Torx model I'm just going to have to buy it (even though they don't have the best pricing).
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ITtechguy on October 01, 2010, 12:27:15 PM
Got an ES4
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 01, 2010, 06:50:36 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-ext-1.jpg)

A new concept I've been working on. More details and more pics here (http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/squirt-ps4es4-extention-concept/)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Agent X68 on October 01, 2010, 09:26:45 PM
interesting concept, although it needs a beveled edge. :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 01, 2010, 09:28:17 PM
Indeed, it needs a lot of fixing from that model... DOn't think I'll ever get to make one unfortunately, don't have the tools.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Agent X68 on October 01, 2010, 09:39:53 PM
From the looks of it all you need is a way to cut the steel, a way to make holes, a way to make the bit driver, and a tap to make the treaded hole.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 01, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Actually if you rread the text on my site I mention that the threaded hole is probably not the best solution, something slot-in and lockable would be better. That way you can use the bit slot as a second slot-in point for large accessories (like saws). That would be even harder to make. I don't have the steel, I don't have any of the tools necessary to do it - unfortunately. Maybe evil510 will see it and make one. I don't really need it anyways since it's so semi-permanenet but I just think it's not a bad idea to add 15mm lengthwise and get so many extra features

On a sidenote, ordered my third PS4 today. Second one came from a confused ebay seller who promised to send a pivoted one and sent a riveted one, so hopefully the same promise from this one will result ina a backup pivoted one.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Vladimir on October 11, 2010, 08:04:53 PM
Today I received Squirt PS4 with pivots, date code 0210.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gusti Parang on October 21, 2010, 08:42:44 AM
I would like to join this club please  :D

I have a pivoted PS4 I got through gunga, been riding on my key-chain carabiner for a few months now. Wow, I didn't know the pivoted ones were desirable, or even that they were now making ones with rivets instead. Why did LM decide to do this? To keep costs down? To prevent users from modding them?

Anyway here's a (partial) picture of mine, don't have a camera right now so this is only picture I have
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/4995785636_b2436ae0be.jpg)

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 22, 2010, 12:44:31 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/IMG_4871.jpg)

x-acto style second blade mod
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: certifiedfryguy on October 22, 2010, 01:40:20 AM
just got a squirt PS4 but i'm bummed out it has rivets instead of torx screws.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: J-sews on October 22, 2010, 02:44:02 AM
just got a squirt PS4 but i'm bummed out it has rivets instead of torx screws.


Yeah, all the pictures on all of the websites show screws, but that's not always what the tool comes with. :(
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Agent X68 on October 22, 2010, 03:41:45 AM
cool blade mod andreas. :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: sawman on October 22, 2010, 03:54:17 AM
How did I miss this thread... I got my PS4 recently and give it 5 stars!  The perfect multitool hands down  :tu:   Now if I could only figure out why my local "Target" store does not sell it  ???
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on October 22, 2010, 05:27:03 AM
I like the x-acto knife Andreas!

I wonder if a single edged razor blade could be cut in half lengthwise and sandwiched between two smaller pieces of metal with a hole through them for the pivot, so that the blade would be replaceable once it dulls? ???

[feel free to use this idea if you like. I don't really have the tools necessary to undertake it myself.]
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 22, 2010, 09:04:54 AM
I like the x-acto knife Andreas!

I wonder if a single edged razor blade could be cut in half lengthwise and sandwiched between two smaller pieces of metal with a hole through them for the pivot, so that the blade would be replaceable once it dulls? ???

[feel free to use this idea if you like. I don't really have the tools necessary to undertake it myself.]

I had the same thought, and so did someone commenting on the video for this mod (http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/leatherman-squirt-ps4-x-acto-mod/) on youtube. However it's not practical. The tools are 1mm thick, making a blade holder that thin is practically impossible. Not to mention that for what I'm using the blade for - opening packaging - a real x-acto blade or razor wouldn't be able to pierce plastic that thick without breaking. Besides, this blade is fully replaceable as long as you have spare squirt/style blades, which basically means it'll cost me $13 (Style) to replace it once I run out of spare blades, which isn't too bad since the blade is strong enough to last a while

My original plan was to make the blade a liner locking blade (http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/leatherman-squirt-liner-lock-prototype/) but this was simpler and solved the same problem for me
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: sergemaster on October 22, 2010, 09:35:31 AM
Amici,
Has anyone else experienced with their PS4 that the Key Ring Attachment keeps falling out of the handle? It gets to the point that it engages with the slightest movement of the tool.

Cheers,
Serge
 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 22, 2010, 09:37:01 AM
Amici,
Has anyone else experienced with their PS4 that the Key Ring Attachment keeps falling out of the handle? It gets to the point that it engages with the slightest movement of the tool.

Cheers,
Serge
 

Never, but then again I have a pivotd PS4 so I have everythign tightened perfectly
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on October 22, 2010, 03:22:01 PM
As of last week I too am a member.  Happy owner of a blue torx head PS4. :)

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/multitools/011.jpg)

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/multitools/008.jpg)

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/multitools/015.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: nuphoria on October 22, 2010, 03:33:26 PM
Congrats G-man  :cheers:

Useful little things :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: certifiedfryguy on October 22, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
Is there by any chance a factory Black Oxide Squirt? That would be awesome.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on October 22, 2010, 04:33:47 PM
There's black, mine pictured here http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.0.html), for example, but there is no black oxide PS4.

Besides being stealth, I like that when (notice I didn't say "if") the scales get scratched (which is inevitable in keychain carry at least) one can easily patch the mark by an application of black Sharpie pen. Only upon very close examination would one actually see the repair job. The repair itself will also eventually flake off but this may take months or even years and when it does happen simply reapply more Sharpie!  :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Inner Prop on October 22, 2010, 11:02:41 PM
I want one.  How do I make sure it has torx?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on October 23, 2010, 12:20:48 AM
^PS4's made after July of this year converted to rivets "for a smoother fit in the pocket" according to LM. The only way to get a new PS4 with the older Torx threaded design would be if one can find a dealer that bought a huge quantity before the conversion and is still selling through those or to buy a used one that was manufactured prior to July. Be careful, LM uses the same old picture in their literature and on the outside of the blister packed boxes of the older design even though what's inside has rivots. They never bothered to change the picture because for 99% of average Joe buyers they'll never know or care about this, what they deem, "subtle change". Good luck.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gusti Parang on October 23, 2010, 06:47:39 PM
^PS4's made after July of this year converted to rivets "for a smoother fit in the pocket" according to LM...
That sounds like absolute nonsense to me, but I would gladly be educated as to how it could have a "smoother fit in the pocket" when the tool is usually attached to a key-chain  ???

Anyway, I've gone and done some damage to mine. Take a look

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5107333093_a8566dd99a_b.jpg)

I (foolishly) tried using it to cut some cable ties behind a server rack  :oops: Now the scissors are next to useless (they won't even close properly without 'catching')  :'( :'( :'(

How can I fix them? Or can I send them in for a repair under warranty?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 23, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Warranty will cover it :)

That right there is why I have spare scissors lying around just in case...
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gusti Parang on October 23, 2010, 08:16:19 PM
Warranty will cover it :)

That right there is why I have spare scissors lying around just in case...

Thank you!

I wonder if they'll send me the scissors without me sending in my PS4? I'm going to miss it terribly if it leaves my key-chain. Although I guess its Victorinox Climber predecessor will be glad to see some action again!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 23, 2010, 08:17:18 PM
No, you have to send it in and wait a month or so. If thats too long you can buy a Style online, that has the scissors...
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gusti Parang on October 23, 2010, 08:19:35 PM
Talk about instant reply! OK got it, thanks a lot for the help!

I'll contact my local distributor, wonder how it works over here...
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Inner Prop on October 24, 2010, 05:46:22 AM
Who's selling them in a brick and mortar store?  I couldn't find one in Target today.  Walmart?  Bass Pro Shop?  That's where I got my Gerber.

I figure, if I can see it I can tell if it has rivets or not.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ari6126 on October 24, 2010, 05:58:50 AM
Who's selling them in a brick and mortar store?  I couldn't find one in Target today.  Walmart?  Bass Pro Shop?  That's where I got my Gerber.

I figure, if I can see it I can tell if it has rivets or not.

My REI has them.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on October 25, 2010, 04:33:47 AM
REI has PS4s; what they don't have is ones with Torx threaded screws, at least not the one near me that is.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 28, 2010, 06:57:20 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-liner1.jpg)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-liner2.jpg)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-liner3.jpg)

PS4 liner lock: http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/leatherman-squirt-ps4-liner-lock/
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on October 28, 2010, 10:28:49 PM
Very nice Andreas. The positive click it makes when you open it must make you feel good each time you hear it, especially knowing you probably have the only PS4 on the planet that does so! Good job. :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 28, 2010, 10:56:51 PM
Indeed it is. In reality it's a very easy mod. It only took me a couple of hours because I was doing it in a normal room and had to shield for depbres etc and didn't have the proper tools.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: RFOneWatt on October 31, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
My Squirts.. Well, the pink one is on my wifey's key chain. (Charge in pic for aspect)

Love the liner lock mod!!

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/188372/Squirts.JPG)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on October 31, 2010, 07:21:08 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-spoon-1.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-spoon-2.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-spoon-3.jpg)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-spoon-4.jpg)

New mod :D
http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/leatherman-squirt-ps4-spoon-add-on/ (http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/leatherman-squirt-ps4-spoon-add-on/)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: EZ822 on October 31, 2010, 08:17:31 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-spoon-3.jpg)

New mod :D
http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/leatherman-squirt-ps4-spoon-add-on/ (http://andreasodegard.com/2010/10/leatherman-squirt-ps4-spoon-add-on/)
:D :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: J-sews on October 31, 2010, 11:40:48 PM
The spoon attachment is pretty neat, but the liner lock is brilliant! :o
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: powernoodle on October 31, 2010, 11:56:21 PM
Count me in:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/powerpickle/keys.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/powerpickle/IMG_7710.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on November 01, 2010, 12:01:45 AM
Nice pic powernoodle. :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Neil on November 01, 2010, 12:04:44 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/ps4-liner1.jpg)
...

No use to me over here in the UK whatsoever  :-\

    But respect where its due for a cool mod  :salute: :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on November 01, 2010, 12:35:22 AM
I can't be 100% sure, but I think I might have accidentally voided the warranty just a little bit

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/IMG_5000.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on November 01, 2010, 12:37:02 AM
Maybe just a little. :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Neil on November 01, 2010, 01:12:44 AM
Not again  ::)

:P
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on November 01, 2010, 01:21:59 AM
I figured it was about time to take it fully apart for real since I've already done it to ny 3D model PS4

(http://andreasodegard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ps4-m09.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on November 03, 2010, 01:02:39 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/510000/multitool-org/IMG_5009.jpg)


I realize my spoon add-on would be a more logical choice for yoghurt, but I wanted to try the spork add-on I made today
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on November 03, 2010, 01:29:46 AM
How about a toothbrush? :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Shorty66 on November 03, 2010, 11:37:45 AM
I love the liner lock mod. I alrady would have done that one if mine had screws. Well, seems like i have to get another.... Which color should i buy?
I Already own black...
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: RFOneWatt on November 03, 2010, 03:56:49 PM
I love the liner lock mod. I alrady would have done that one if mine had screws. Well, seems like i have to get another.... Which color should i buy?
I Already own black...

Grey gets my vote.  I own black, grey and the wife has a pink Squirt.

The finish on the grey seems most resistant to scratches and wear IMO.

The liner lock is the awesome! I think Leatherman needs to hire Andreas.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on November 03, 2010, 05:10:36 PM
While the liner lock might seem like the most "impressive" the x-acto mod is far more useful in my experience. Nothing beats that blade for things like opening packaging or precision cutting of something, which is what I at least do a lot with the PS4. However considering how easy it was to add a liner lock I wish Leatherman would steal the idea. They could present it as a competitior to the Gerber Curve
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: RFOneWatt on November 03, 2010, 06:04:04 PM
Which color should i buy?
I Already own black...

Here is a decent Hi-Res picture of my Grey E4.  (I'm sure the ES/PS4 comes in grey also, but I'm too lazy to double check.)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/188372/Grey.Squirt.E4.Hi-Rez.JPG)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Andreas on November 03, 2010, 06:05:47 PM
No it doesnt... would have taken you 1/50 the time to just check leatherman.com or amazon rather than posting two posts about it including a picture... :P
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: RFOneWatt on November 03, 2010, 06:22:01 PM
No it doesnt... would have taken you 1/50 the time to just check leatherman.com or amazon rather than posting two posts about it including a picture... :P

You can have YOUR post back, Andreas.

The picture was in a directory on my desktop so I posted it. (w/ a warning that it might not be available.)

Sorry for trying to help someone out with what information I had at my fingertips.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Benner on November 03, 2010, 06:24:53 PM
No it doesnt... would have taken you 1/50 the time to just check leatherman.com or amazon rather than posting two posts about it including a picture... :P

Not needed mate.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Vladimir on November 19, 2010, 03:51:33 PM
Received Squirt ES4 today

(http://i52.tinypic.com/qyy7i1.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: AHB on November 19, 2010, 05:31:22 PM
Cool..  :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on November 19, 2010, 10:47:30 PM
Welcome to the club Vladimir.  :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Vladimir on November 19, 2010, 11:00:38 PM
Today I received Squirt PS4 with pivots, date code 0210.
I'm already member, I have PS4
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Carlos on November 20, 2010, 12:07:24 AM
Another member here. I own a black ps4, with rivets :(
I think this would be the perfect key sized tool if it had some implements from the vic minichamp, namely: the philips driver, bottle opener and scissors.
Otherwise, a real good tool combination, small factory, strong enough for the size and no redundant/useless functions.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: fruitsox on November 20, 2010, 05:09:18 AM
i wish they had pink in the ps4/es4. i know it is a "gay"/feminin color but what i have found is noone wants to walk off with a pink multitool/knife. perfect example is me and my brother used to have mini griptillians i got the awesome looking od green with black blade and he got the pink with satin blade. after many months of making fun of him for the pink choice. one day we both had them clipped  on our bag for some at a soccer tournament and when we came back mine was magicly missing while his was sitting right next to just sittin there. guess it was karma...   :-[
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on November 20, 2010, 09:12:54 PM
Received Squirt ES4 today
Vladimir, could you please do me a favor and see if it too will securely store a standard pin, just as I discovered the PS4 does rather nicely? See post:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.0.html)   

Thanks for checking.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Vladimir on November 21, 2010, 12:30:48 AM
Received Squirt ES4 today
Vladimir, could you please do me a favor and see if it too will securely store a standard pin, just as I discovered the PS4 does rather nicely? See post:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.0.html)   

Thanks for checking.

It's working:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2usx0d0.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: markn951 on November 21, 2010, 01:42:14 AM
Got my PS4 a week ago, and I'm liking it quite a bit. It's much more pocketable than something like, say, a Surge :P
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on November 21, 2010, 03:21:30 AM
Vladimir, thanks for checking! I didn't want to endorse the pin storage "mod" I discovered as working for the ES4 as well until I had confirmation.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Shorty66 on November 24, 2010, 10:49:04 PM
Mine broke yesterday: While trying to cut a little thicker wire (about 1,5mm) one of the springs broke right through.
I attached some fotos for you to see:

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3415/20101124224607608.jpg)(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2756/20101124224553166.jpg)

lets see how the warranty works out...
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Neil on November 25, 2010, 10:51:57 AM
What was that wire made of?  :(
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on November 25, 2010, 07:18:16 PM
Though I maybe wouldn't use a PS4 on 1.5mm steel wire (i assume it was steel), I also wouldn't expect it to break the spring.  Notch the cutters perhaps, but not break anything.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Shorty66 on November 26, 2010, 09:11:07 PM
I think it was steel wire - from a coat hanger or similar. Bendable by hand but even with my skeletool it took some amount of force to cut it.
I had my skeletool as a backup in my backpack but didn`t remember that until my squirt broke.
I must say though, that the suqird spring has a really small cross-section where it broke - seems like they tried to reduce the locking power by reducing the cross-section. I dont think thats too clever...
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: arab on February 15, 2011, 10:19:18 AM
Thanks to Andreas!

I received my PS4 yesterday from the same EBay seller he got his from. Because of all the comments here about Pivots Vs Rivets, I asked for a PS4 with Pivots and received a nice new red one yesterday! I was told it was their last one :(

I've already been on EBay looking for a battered S4 I can cannibalise for alternative fittings - I especially like the look of its nailfile...

Anyway I'm impressed. The tool itself is nice and clicky in operation. I can see some areas where money has been saved - e.g. moulding lines on the casing - but I'm happy. This is replacing a 58mm Swiss Army Rambler and the 2 are very close in size; I'd say the LM is a little heavier and a little wider. I'm very fickle about my edc knife so time will tell if this stays. I've used a variety of the 58mm range of SA knives over the years - classic, Midnight Manager, Rambler and flirted with a Buck Minibuck 350 for a while.

Its interesting to compare the minibuck with the PS4 as they are very similar in what they offer. The minibuck is very small and well made but the pliers are difficult to use because they are difficult to keep in place when being used. Because of the design, they also fall open if kept outside of their rubber "boot".

Anyway, lets see how it goes!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on February 15, 2011, 07:09:23 PM
Welcome to the forum arab, sounds like you have  nice range of keyring sized tools. :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: arab on February 21, 2011, 10:56:31 AM
Thanks for the welcome  :tu:

I've already done the "pin mod" and have a secondhand S4 on the way to me which I'm planning to take apart to use some of its tools in my PS4 - specificlly the nailfile which looks better as a nail tool than the more heavyduty device in mine.

Anyway, a quick question. After I open my torx screws, what is the procedure for replacing them? Do I just stick 'em back in or do I need to use something to lock the threads?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: New_World on February 21, 2011, 11:48:43 AM
am I the only one who missed the s4?
I understand the micra is around, but..... I miss the smaller form factor, outside tools, and strong scissors in a small keychain package.

Leatherman...if you are reading this......please bring back the s4.  (am I the only one affected by this??)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on February 21, 2011, 06:59:17 PM
^ You might appreciate the Style CS, which also is beefy scissors (not pliers) based, as an alternative to the S4 (although no, it is not exactly the same).

I didn't fully appreciate the Style CS until I actually got one recently. Things to consider:

-noticeably flatter and thinner compared to the PS4 which is nearly 50% fatter (only 8.56 mm vs. the PS4's 12.5 mm, although the carabiner/bottle opener adds length)

-cool "miniaturized Skeletool" look  :tu: ["Have you a bottle opener?" "Why yes I do; check this out." (outside accessible too)]

-less expensive than the PS4 (or the Micra for that matter, at least from where I shop)

-outside accessible tools, unlike Micra

-beefy, sprung scissors, not a little, chintzy afterthought side tool

[standby for shameless plugs]

-interchangeable flat bit "mod" (free, no tools or modification necessary) http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26036.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26036.0.html)

-interchangeable 4mm micro bit "mod"  (free, no tools or modification necessary) http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26042.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26042.0.html)

-pin storage "mod" (free, no tools or modification necessary), unlike Micra http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26043.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26043.0.html)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: New_World on February 21, 2011, 08:24:28 PM
cool. thanks for the links.
I do own a style cs and it is pretty nice.
the screw driver has some play on it which is uncommon for leatherman.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on February 21, 2011, 11:30:30 PM
^Your file tipped with Philips/small screwdriver has some hinge play to it?  ??? Mine seems quite solid. Their 25 yr warranty is probably still in effect, I'd send it in for repair/exchange. They tend to have a no questions asked policy according to every post I've ever read about them, not that I've ever had any issues myself.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: New_World on February 23, 2011, 12:13:00 AM
^Your file tipped with Philips/small screwdriver has some hinge play to it?  ??? Mine seems quite solid. Their 25 yr warranty is probably still in effect, I'd send it in for repair/exchange. They tend to have a no questions asked policy according to every post I've ever read about them, not that I've ever had any issues myself.

yep, has some play...quite a bit.
everything else works great on it.

I might send it in but not anytime soon unless it breaks.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cleanser on February 25, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
Hi guys,
New member here.

I found this forum when searching to find a PS4 with screws and not rivets.  I finally got my PS4 with screws. I wanted to let those who may still be searching for a ps4 with screws know how I got mine. I bought a "leatherman ps4 with gift tin" in an attempt to find a ps4 with screws and was glad to see it had them. The ps4 with gift tin is a bit more pricey, but I used a coupon.  I'm not sure if other people will have the same results or if I just got lucky.. but I wanted to share the info. 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: AHB on February 25, 2011, 06:58:01 PM
Good to have you here Cleanser.. :tu:
Any plans for a PS4 mod then?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on February 25, 2011, 07:29:59 PM
welcome to the forum Cleanser. :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cleanser on February 25, 2011, 07:31:20 PM
Good to have you here Cleanser.. :tu:
Any plans for a PS4 mod then?

Hi, thanks for the welcome.  I had / have plans to replace the file with a serrated blade from another mini multitool (ill post a picture of that tool later because as far as I can tell it is a very uncommon tool).  However, my most recent mod attempt on a victorinox resulted in a completely broken knife.. so I won't be making mod attempts until I build up more courage or stupidity. :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: JackNate on February 27, 2011, 05:38:38 PM
I regretted buying the PS4, but it's kinda growing on me every time I use it.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: theonew on March 01, 2011, 02:55:34 AM
I got a PS4 last summer as my first pliers based multitool. I immediately attached it to my keys and found that it came in handy on many occasions. A week or two after I got it the following incident occurred:

(I posted this story on another forum on 06-20-2010 and just copied and pasted it here)

This being New York City, I don't usually keep tools in my car, so today when I went to move my car to the other side of the street and found that the linkage behind the ignition lock cylinder had broken, rendering the car inoperable, I found myself in a bit of a jam. I did thankfully have a Squirt PS4 attached to my keys. First order of business, pull lock cylinder. I scrounged up a paper clip from the glove compartment and after 20 minutes of cursing finally got the cylinder to pop out. Next step, remove shift lock cable from the housing so I could put the car in Drive. The little pliers on the Squirt easily unbolted the cable. Then I used the pliers to extract the remains of the cracked rod inside. After a little inspection it was clear I'd never be able to turn the engine over without a long properly sized screwdriver, so I chose option two - hot wire the car. I used the little screwdriver on the squirt to pry off the cover on the underside of the steering column. Then I used the wire cutters to cut the four wires off the broken ignition housing. I then used the little knife blade to trim off the rubber on the ends of the wires and played around with them till I figured out how to get the engine to turn over. I used the pliers to twist the hot lead and two other wires together tightly and touched the fourth wire to the group and voila the car started up. Now all I had to do was press on the end of the shift lock cable and put the car in drive and then stick my finger down the tube which had housed the lock cylinder and release the steering lock. I then drove the car to the other side of the street, thereby avoiding a ticket tomorrow morning.

I've carried the PS4 religiously ever since and used it numerous times. It's a great little tool :salute:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: arab on March 01, 2011, 10:35:45 AM
Using Andreas' ideas, I received a "donor" Squirt S4 yesterday from Ebay and cannibalised it last night for some replacement parts for my PS4 (Pivots - again, thanks Andreas!). The swap-out resulted in my PS4 having a S4 nailfile.

My engineering skills are primitive but what I lack in ability I make up for with enthusiasm. After some butchering (Using drills, chisels, nail & hammer - the S4 rivets are strong!) I eventually released the S4 nailfile from it's rivet grip. Some quick work on the PS4 (Pivots are SO much handier than rivets) and I now have a bespoke PS4; My nails can now be manicured just as they were when I had my SAK Rambler.

I want to thank everybody who contributed to this forum and this thread for inspiring me. I want to thank my Mom and my Dad. I want to thank my brother for inspiring me to just go out there and enjoy my SAKs. I want to <SORRY TIME UP>  :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 01, 2011, 07:24:18 PM
Sounds excellent arab, can we get some pics?  (we like pics  :D)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: arab on March 02, 2011, 05:15:28 PM
Here it is:

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9190/lmsquirtps4modified.jpg)

I haven't included a picture of the butchered S4. Or my thumb which I pierced with one of the Torx drivers  :o

The S4 is now retired with my PD4 file "installed". I don't know if I will use the other tools - certainly the scissors looks very good, but how do I put it back together? I emailed knifekits.com about the shipping charges ($31.64 :rant:) for their 1/8" X 1/2" Pivot Barrel and screw kit but they haven't replied.

Does anybody know of a cheaper way of getting these to me in Ireland?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 02, 2011, 06:00:02 PM
I like that a lot. :tu:  I'm really not a fan of the wood/metal file you get as standard, it's just too short to be of much use IMO, so your solution makes more sense to me. :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ari6126 on March 02, 2011, 08:48:01 PM
Does anybody know of a cheaper way of getting these to me in Ireland?

Send it to someone in the US then have them forward it. PM me if you want me to do it.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: arab on March 02, 2011, 11:20:39 PM
Does anybody know of a cheaper way of getting these to me in Ireland?

Send it to someone in the US then have them forward it. PM me if you want me to do it.

That's a very kind offer. Before I consider ordering them, does anybody here know if they will actually work in place of my old rivet: I'm not allowed to post a link, but you will see what I am looking for at knifekits.com, product DRSPB8
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ari6126 on March 02, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Does anybody know of a cheaper way of getting these to me in Ireland?

Send it to someone in the US then have them forward it. PM me if you want me to do it.

That's a very kind offer. Before I consider ordering them, does anybody here know if they will actually work in place of my old rivet: I'm not allowed to post a link, but you will see what I am looking for at knifekits.com, product DRSPB8

I don't know the answer to your question but why can't you post a link?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 02, 2011, 11:32:18 PM
Does anybody know of a cheaper way of getting these to me in Ireland?

Send it to someone in the US then have them forward it. PM me if you want me to do it.

That's a very kind offer. Before I consider ordering them, does anybody here know if they will actually work in place of my old rivet: I'm not allowed to post a link, but you will see what I am looking for at knifekits.com, product DRSPB8

I don't know the answer to your question but why can't you post a link?

There's a little bit of software now that stops newbies from posting links.  It's nothing against arab, it's to stop spammers and spam bots.  Any real members (like arab) will very quickly rack up enough posts. :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ari6126 on March 02, 2011, 11:33:43 PM
Does anybody know of a cheaper way of getting these to me in Ireland?

Send it to someone in the US then have them forward it. PM me if you want me to do it.

That's a very kind offer. Before I consider ordering them, does anybody here know if they will actually work in place of my old rivet: I'm not allowed to post a link, but you will see what I am looking for at knifekits.com, product DRSPB8

I don't know the answer to your question but why can't you post a link?

There's a little bit of software now that stops newbies from posting links.  It's nothing against arab, it's to stop spammers and spam bots.  Any real members (like arab) will very quickly rack up enough posts. :tu:

Got it.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: The Shadow on March 08, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
Just got a new ES4!  Great little tool.  Am I in the club?



This being New York City, I don't usually keep tools in my car, so today when I went to move my car to the other side of the street and found that the linkage behind the ignition lock cylinder had broken, rendering the car inoperable, I found myself in a bit of a jam.

................

I then drove the car to the other side of the street, thereby avoiding a ticket tomorrow morning.


Great story!  I had to hot-wire my old car once, but it was to get home. It's funny that you had to do it - just to avoid the ticket.  Typical NYC story, just like taking a subway to get back to your car (when you couldn't find a closer spot).
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: theonew on March 09, 2011, 03:43:11 AM
It's funny that you had to do it - just to avoid the ticket.  Typical NYC story, just like taking a subway to get back to your car (when you couldn't find a closer spot).

LOL, New York City is like another planet  :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 09, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Welcome to the club Shadow. :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cyclone82 on March 11, 2011, 02:05:04 PM
I didn't realize how small these are. I think i will end up getting one of the pliers version. Quick question, is it pretty safe to get one off ebay? eg i don't have to worry about picking up a fake one? and Is it hard to find them with screws instread of rivets now. ive seen them around $35 USD, Is that an average price?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cleanser on March 11, 2011, 04:01:16 PM
I didn't realize how small these are. I think i will end up getting one of the pliers version. Quick question, is it pretty safe to get one off ebay? eg i don't have to worry about picking up a fake one? and Is it hard to find them with screws instread of rivets now. ive seen them around $35 USD, Is that an average price?

A new one can be picked up from many online stores for $25 USD or less (see amazon). Finding one with screws is very difficult, you will either have to buy one used off ebay (making sure the gallery image is of the ACTUAL item being sold) or try your luck buying them from small online / local retailers who may have old stock. I haven't heard of fake PS4s.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cyclone82 on March 11, 2011, 04:13:29 PM
Thanks, just read this thead and watched some vids. If any one knows where to get screw types then let me know. I asked one ebay seller but i bet they are using a stock/old photo. Also do the older P4's have rivets or screws?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cleanser on March 11, 2011, 04:31:19 PM
As I posted a little bit ago, I got my leatherman ps4 with screws by buying one in a gift tin (but I can't confirm if all that are in gift tins have screws).

Or...
ebay has one. However, this one is personalized with advertisement on it.

I'm 99% sure it will actually have screws since it is being resold from another auction I bid on and lost. The original auction also showed screws. (I wish I could post links!)


P4 have rivets
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 11, 2011, 07:11:58 PM
Thanks, just read this thead and watched some vids. If any one knows where to get screw types then let me know. I asked one ebay seller but i bet they are using a stock/old photo. Also do the older P4's have rivets or screws?

All the older Squirts P4, S4 and E4 had rivets not screws.

If you drop our member Travis Autry a PM he'll get you a good price on a Squirt and might be able to tell you if it's riveted or screwed (though don't hold me to that, he might not  :D).
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cyclone82 on March 12, 2011, 07:14:02 AM
Thanks. might try that. Undecided on colour though :-\

One ebay seller got back to me. Photo showed screws, but they said it had rivets.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: New_World on March 12, 2011, 08:13:08 AM
I want to join. =)
(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/New_World1/Fav2.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cyclone82 on March 17, 2011, 09:55:10 AM
Well looks like im a member now. I have got a blue PS4 with screws comming. I still want a black and a red though.

How many colours do they come in?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: New_World on March 17, 2011, 10:08:36 AM
i think the s4 and p4 come in red, blue, black, and pink.

the ps4 come in red, black, and blue.

thats just my guess.

I bet the leatherman website says it....but its late...I'm off to bed!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Mike 208 on March 21, 2011, 12:44:35 AM
I joined the club yesterday - got a black Ps4.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cyclone82 on March 25, 2011, 09:37:33 AM
I got my first leatherman today. A blue PS4 with screws :tu:

Negative comments I had read before were

- pliers are to tight/hard to open
- screwdrivers are too hard to access

Here are my thoughts

Overall quality fairly good. Yes the screw drivers and most of the other tools are a little hard to access the nail slots. I can get them no worries so this is not an issue for me and i only cut my nails yesterday and like them really short. The blade is quite sharp, actually very sharp, a lot sharper than I was expecting. I can shave with it. Its only sharpened on one side so im not sure what the deal with that is.

Things I don’t like are the scissors are very floppy/loose at the center rivet. The lever you press on feels like its going to fall off the rivet, its that loose. Im disappointed in that and a bit scared to use them really as the hand lever seems like its just dangling there. No where near the same quality as Victorinox classic scissors. The scissors also seem to scrape/hit something when I try to fold them back into the handle. I think they are just a tight fit with not much clearance. It’s not a major issue for me though.

The second thing I was disappointed in was that the main rivet joint for the pliers is a bit loose and there is sideways movement in the 2 plier jaws. I was expecting not to have this in a ‘quality’ brand of pliers. Maybe its just mine or maybe they are all like that? At least the needle nose tips do line up though.

The last thing is that the pliers don’t close right up. There is a gap so it would only clamp and hold something 0.50-0.75mm. This might be normal or it may not be but I certainly wont be able to hold any real thin things.

I tried the wire cutters on some thin wire  maybe about 0.50 thickness. I would be a bit worried about trying anything more than small paper clip thickness. The pliers just seem a bit weak/vulnerable mainly due to how thin they are so you could only use these for very light work like electronics I reckon. The cutters would be good for circuit board work.

Overall I would say the quality is not as good as Victorinox. I have some Gerbers coming next week so it will be interesting to see how it compares to those.

I dont expect the blue annodized finish to last but when it does rub off you could either polish the handles or bead blast them to make them look better. I like the spring action of the pliers.

I am pretty happy with the PS4 and the main things I don’t like are the sloppy/loose scissor pivot and the loose plier pivot.

Would I buy another one? Yes I would so I could compare it to another to see if I got a dud but I wont pay the high price I paid for this one. I would like to get a red and black one to go with my blue one.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cleanser on March 25, 2011, 03:11:03 PM
Cyclone,

I own two PS4 and for comparison to yours and to themselves, I can say that:

Both have pliers that meet at the very tip (can hold normal printer paper..) and a gap starts to appear as the pliers move toward the pivot point.

Neither have pliers that are lose with side to side movement.

One has scissors that have side to side movement, while the other has scissors that has no side to side movement.

The scissors on both need to be pushed the whole way to get them to go back in (they do not snap shut like on a swiss army knife). As for the scraping/hitting - if you look down in to the handle you will see that there is a plastic liner that has a slope to it which is suppose to help guide the scissors as they close.


Edit: what I wonder about the scissors is if the spring bar will eventually break off. I have a wenger swiss army knife that has similar sized scissors but a lot more robust spring bar.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cyclone82 on March 26, 2011, 03:39:37 AM
Quote
Neither have pliers that are lose with side to side movement.

One has scissors that have side to side movement, while the other has scissors that has no side to side movement

Damn looks like i got a dud then. They definietly have that dreaded wobble at the plier pivot. Scissors are horrible to be honest.

Not sure if i can or should do anything about it. It was from a business on ebay Australia. If it has to be sent back to LM usa that could take ages to sort out.

I will hope i got a dud and will still try another one and some other leathermans but if i keep finding more doggy Leathermanslike this with loose pliers i dont think i will get any more and will stick with Victorinox tools. There are plenty of cheap brands out there you can buy with faults like sloppy pliers. I have got 2 LM mini tools on the way so i hope they are alright and it just proves my squirt just wasnt quite right.

I assume these are hand built so why dont they feel these things when inspecting them? surely they would feel the rock in the pliers and be not happy to send that out? If they are loose brand new they are only going to get worse with use.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on March 26, 2011, 04:10:29 AM
Certain features of certain models of LM may be hand assembled and inspected but much of their factory is completely automated and robotic. There's a video of it all I'm sure some multi tooler dude with a better memory than mine will be linking to shortly....

As for the play in the hinges I never even noticed any  and have thought of my PS4s as being quite comparable to my half dozen or so other LM tools. Of course now that you point it out however I see there is a bit of play in the scissors but it is of little concern, they are sharp and cut through several pieces of paper with little effort or difficulty, and as for the scrape you encounter when returning them to the body, I have none. Being as small as they are they do seem a bit of an afterthought compared to my Micra, S4, or Style CS scissors but those are all primarily scissors based so it doesn't surprise me.

I only just now dug out my old SAKs (sorry I don't know their model numbers but we could figure it out if need be) which are the comparable length to the PS4 and both of their scissors, hardly ever used, both have noticeably more play to them.

My PS pliers have virtually zero play in the pliers hinge, will grip a single sheet of paper tightly [at least if the front tip is used as well], and a side examination by holding them up to the light of my computer screen as a rear illumination shows the gap between the upper and lower teeth to be very small. The only thing I have on hand skinny enough for them not to grip between the upper and lower teeth is a human hair.

The very tip of the pliers meet perfectly and will grip a human hair tightly, however, so in a sense they could double as tweezers.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cleanser on March 26, 2011, 06:01:26 AM
Cyclone,

Another thing to consider is if they'll fix it or replace it if you send it back (replacements likely having rivets). Since it is a model with screws, maybe you can convince them to send you replacement pliers and scissors instead?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 26, 2011, 09:23:03 AM
It does sound like you've got a duffer mate. :-\  I'd perhaps try the company you bought it from and see if they'll replace it and deal with sending it back to LM.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: kirk13 on March 26, 2011, 10:58:09 PM
Good grief,I must be a club member!I bought a PS4 on a whim back in December.It currently recides in my Emergancy Tin :D

(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy104/kirk130013/saks116.jpg)

(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy104/kirk130013/saks117.jpg)

On another vaugly related note,I bought a Gerber Clutch this week(mostly as a result of Chakos excellent review of the Bear Grilis tool(s).The PS4 is IMO far better even though it is £20 or so more expensive.

I got my PS4 from Blacks(one of the OutDoorsy fashion shops in the UK) for a penny shy of £30
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Sazabi on March 27, 2011, 12:09:20 AM
Kirk, would you mind giving a list of what all you keep in your tin?  It looks neat. :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: kirk13 on March 27, 2011, 12:26:14 AM
Kirk, would you mind giving a list of what all you keep in your tin?  It looks neat. :tu:

No problem!

LM Squirt PS4
6x inbuprofen tabs
Whistle
lighter
Lenser torch(V2 as far as I can remember)
2xmini S-binders
Waterproof capsule holding £20
bunch of elastoplasts
2xsalt sachets
2xhand whippes
needle and thread
tube of superglue(missing as if got used today to repair a Harry Potter Phenoix)
2xelastic bands

Its got most of the stuff I reckon I'd need in London if a bit of Smurf hits the fan!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Sazabi on March 27, 2011, 12:42:23 AM
Thanks, Kirk; it looks well thoughtout. :)  I don't know what I'm more jealous of:  your little kit, or knowing you have a Phoenix. :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: kirk13 on March 27, 2011, 12:46:25 AM
Thanks, Kirk; it looks well thoughtout. :)  I don't know what I'm more jealous of:  your little kit, or knowing you have a Phoenix. :D

Lol Its the kit....you end uphaving clean ashes up all the time with the Phenoix!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on March 27, 2011, 04:35:03 AM
Kirk, I'm intrigued by your tin's rubber gasket. Is she watertight and what sort of vessel is she?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Cleanser on March 27, 2011, 05:52:37 AM


it appears to be a BCB international combat survival tin
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 27, 2011, 09:20:58 AM


it appears to be a BCB international combat survival tin

AFAIK those are just what we think of as tobacco tins, like these: http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/879/shopscr341.html (http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/879/shopscr341.html)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: AHB on March 27, 2011, 09:26:08 AM
AFAIK those are just what we think of as tobacco tins, like these: http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/879/shopscr341.html (http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/879/shopscr341.html)
The "Baldwin's Nervous Pills" are great..  :D :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: kirk13 on March 27, 2011, 05:53:03 PM


it appears to be a BCB international combat survival tin

AFAIK those are just what we think of as tobacco tins, like these: http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/879/shopscr341.html (http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/879/shopscr341.html)

Give the man a cocanut!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on March 28, 2011, 02:46:09 AM
I've asked in a few smoke shops that actually sell raw tobacco if they sell empty tobacco tins and they look at me like I'm from Mars and that it is an absurd question. :-[ {I think ziplock bags are what they sell their product in these days, around here, at least}

Google searches of US companies usually turns up nothing but collectible antiques. Anyone here know of a source for new tobacco tins in the US?

Edit to add: There is a place called "Best Glide" which sell what looks to be a BCB Survival tin for 5 dollars but their shipping charge is $7 !
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: kirk13 on March 28, 2011, 06:53:40 PM
I've asked in a few smoke shops that actually sell raw tobacco if they sell empty tobacco tins and they look at me like I'm from Mars and that it is an absurd question. :-[ {I think ziplock bags are what they sell their product in these days, around here, at least}

Google searches of US companies usually turns up nothing but collectible antiques. Anyone here know of a source for new tobacco tins in the US?

Edit to add: There is a place called "Best Glide" which sell what looks to be a BCB Survival tin for 5 dollars but their shipping charge is $7 !


Dont know if this helps,but its the tin I bought for my little kit
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200535997941&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200535997941&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on March 28, 2011, 10:52:55 PM
Kirk, thanks. Looks good but all the sources I find are UK based. I guess I could evenentually find one that ships to the states but then, once again, the sipping greatly exceeds the unit's price. Oh well.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on March 29, 2011, 01:22:04 AM
Sadly I remember when you could buy these tins of tobacco (Golden Virginia) from any corner shop.  Not sure that's the case any more though. :-\
Title: Re: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: enki_ck on March 29, 2011, 01:24:56 AM
Kirk, thanks. Looks good but all the sources I find are UK based. I guess I could evenentually find one that ships to the states but then, once again, the sipping greatly exceeds the unit's price. Oh well.

Didn't countycomm sell those tins? And sharpdogs over at edcdepot had some. Plain ones though. You could use an altoids tin too. I have a fishermends friend tin for the same purpose.

Oh, BTW. I'm a member too, have a black PS4 and love everything exept the bottle opener, that was a real dissapointment. :(

Edit: links to the tins

http://edcdepot.com/hingedmetaltin.aspx

http://www.countycomm.com/tin.htm


Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: colinoutdoors on July 17, 2011, 11:44:27 AM
Count me in  :)

(http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/colinoutdoors/PS4MTO001.jpg?t=1310895774)
(http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/colinoutdoors/PS4MTO002.jpg?t=1310895805)
(http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/colinoutdoors/PS4MTO003.jpg?t=1310895829)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: MeadMaker on July 17, 2011, 06:27:29 PM
Here is my Black PS4.   It is the perfect bathing suit carry MT.  So far it has been in the Caribbean, Lake Michigan and several inland lakes in Michigan and the northwoods of Wisconsin.

Its pretty much just a stock PS4 except that I changed it from a chisel ground blade by putting a small bevel on the flat side with a Spyderco Sharpmaker.   The lanyard is made from tan/black paracord tied with a lanyard knot.

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx126/behnker/IMG-20110717-00009.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Randyc1974 on July 17, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
My PS4 is my EDC key chain multi-tool. Thanks to Andreas and his cool Youtube videos, I did the
full size bit mod. It works great for light duty repair jobs around the house or anywhere else for
that matter. I also EDC a small bit kit to go along with the PS4.

(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy117/BulldogCustomGunLeather/SquirtPS4Mo2.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: colinoutdoors on July 17, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
That is a very cool mod for a great tool, nice one mate.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: trouthunter on July 17, 2011, 10:35:02 PM
Count me in.  I have two ES4 and on PS4.
 :multi:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: guaxini on November 03, 2011, 06:19:51 PM
Another proud squirt ps4 owner joining the club, look how awesomely tiny it looks on my hands!!

You don't even notice it is on your pocket!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on November 03, 2011, 06:47:35 PM
Having pics in your first post is the perfect way to start here guaxini, I think you'll fit right it. :D 

Welcome to the club and welcome to the forum. :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: J-sews on November 04, 2011, 03:26:25 AM
Greetings guaxini, and welcome to the club! :multi:
Title: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: tattoosteve99 on November 05, 2011, 01:41:26 AM
Ok another member here. I got a nib black ps4.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: captain spaulding on November 05, 2011, 03:02:05 AM
Ok another member here. I got a nib black ps4.

Welcome to the club. The PS4 is one of my favorite tools.  :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Flying Dutchman on November 07, 2011, 12:47:34 AM
I need to get one of these sometime....I have a P4 but this looks more well equipped for what I need usually.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: New_World on November 08, 2011, 06:00:06 PM
I've had the p4.......but now I finally got a ps4 on the way!
so light you'll forget its in your pocket.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 11, 2012, 10:31:31 AM
I'm joining too! :D I've just received my Black Squirt Ps4  :mail: :mail:

At first glance it looks more fragile than the Micra/Style CS, btw

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: DeezNittles on May 11, 2012, 12:02:40 PM
I'm joining too! :D I've just received my Black Squirt Ps4  :mail: :mail:

At first glance it looks more fragile than the Micra/Style CS, btw

Funny you should mention that because my Black PS4 is on a field trip back to Oregon for a broken plier head.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 11, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
I indeed have the feeling the pliers can break easily  :ahhh


So, quick first impressions:

- the tools get out much easier than, say those of the Style CS, i.e. I'm not going to break nails there

- the pliers do feel more fragile than the scissors on the Micra/Style CS  :oops: :ahhh

- the date code is kind of.. quite hidden %) I can only read the last two digits, 11 and there's one ... either 3 or 8 before that... i.e. it must have been produced either  in March or August last year ( :drool:)

- the scissors also feel very fragile, but, of course, they're for paper only, lol. Anyway, I think I'll love them Has anyone had problems with them, btw?

- the tool is much less "loos/flimsy/shaky" than my Micra... even I can say it doesn't move aaaaaaat all and snaps brilliantly.

- I like the feel of the finish
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 11, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
And I noticed something weirdly looking on the rivets. Do you think someone played with it or it could've come from the factory this way? [The two "bottom" rivets]

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/nikoleta_rangelova/pic2002-11.jpg)


(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/nikoleta_rangelova/pic2001-9.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/nikoleta_rangelova/pic2005-4.jpg)


 :woohoo:

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: DeezNittles on May 11, 2012, 11:02:08 PM
I would guess that the strange rivets were probably just a misalignment at the factory.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: clickstop on May 12, 2012, 02:46:40 AM
Got a used Torx PS4 about two weeks ago, and it's awesome so far, including the file that everyone seems to dislike  :P I'll probably be replacing it with an awl from a P4 though. Anyone know any cool mods for the PS4?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on May 12, 2012, 06:26:24 AM
Not so much of a "mod" per se, but I discovered a secret (that is, undocumented by Leatherman) storage hole for a straight pin, similar to the hole found on some SAKs:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.msg429343.html#msg429343 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.msg429343.html#msg429343)

I used my pin just the other day. I had an application where I needed to peel up the corner of a small sticker on a recessed metal surface. My first inclination was to use my knife tip, but having had those snap off on other knives I own when used as such, against metal, even nice ones like Spyderco,  I decided to not chance it and I used my pin instead. Worked like a charm.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 12, 2012, 06:57:53 AM
I would guess that the strange rivets were probably just a misalignment at the factory.

Interesting  :think:  Thanks.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: clickstop on May 12, 2012, 03:28:17 PM
Not so much of a "mod" per se, but I discovered a secret (that is, undocumented by Leatherman) storage hole for a straight pin, similar to the hole found on some SAKs:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.msg429343.html#msg429343 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23343.msg429343.html#msg429343)

I used my pin just the other day. I had an application where I needed to peel up the corner of a small sticker on a recessed metal surface. My first inclination was to use my knife tip, but having had those snap off on other knives I own when used as such, against metal, even nice ones like Spyderco,  I decided to not chance it and I used my pin instead. Worked like a charm.

I love this mod, that pin comes in really handy! I'm surprised leatherman hasn't caught on and started adding pins yet..
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: chris777 on May 16, 2012, 06:31:33 AM
They would have to charge $5 more per tool to meet standard corporate pricing scales. Which would probably cut into sales.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on May 16, 2012, 05:01:36 PM
And if they brazenly defy that, and don't raise the price by $5, what exactly happens?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 18, 2012, 01:46:58 PM
Btw, are all dates so difficult to see? I mean, it's pretty obvious what's the mark, but still it was a little difficult to find in the beginning.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/nikoleta_rangelova/sqDate.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on May 18, 2012, 11:19:05 PM
Mine is exactly the same. :shrug:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: nuphoria on May 19, 2012, 12:16:31 AM
Btw, are all dates so difficult to see? I mean, it's pretty obvious what's the mark, but still it was a little difficult to find in the beginning.

You have the best nails I've seen in a pic on MTO! :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 19, 2012, 05:14:40 AM
Mine is exactly the same. :shrug:


Hm... I see :think:


Btw, are all dates so difficult to see? I mean, it's pretty obvious what's the mark, but still it was a little difficult to find in the beginning.

You have the best nails I've seen in a pic on MTO! :cheers:


 :rofl: Oh, come on :D LOL
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Hammer on May 20, 2012, 06:27:04 AM
Count me in!

Here's my Ps4 and Es4 in a group shot
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj58/drkpics/Multi%20Tools/Leathermanside1.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 20, 2012, 08:25:22 AM
Very nice, Hammer! :D How "old" are yours? :D
Title: Squirt Squadron!
Post by: Metropolicity on May 26, 2012, 07:37:45 AM
Count me in!

I matched my PS4, ES4 and my specially modified Torx screw PS4 with S4 Scissors. A small Sanrenmu 604 completes my small electronics working set.

(http://www.ericaustudios.com/for_blogs/Squirt%20Squadron/Squirt%20Sqaudron%20.JPG)

Why would I want the S4 scissors when I already have two pairs of scissors on the PS4 chassis? they are WAY too small and no leverage.

(http://www.ericaustudios.com/for_blogs/Squirt%20Squadron/Squirt%20Squadron%20Open.JPG)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: jwh on May 29, 2012, 12:01:30 AM
I'm in.

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/myeyesview/Neck%20Knives/IMG_2113-Edit.jpg)

I like this little tool as well as my lil Style CS.

jwh
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: JimShockz on June 02, 2012, 04:28:23 PM
Count me in!

Here's my Ps4 and Es4 in a group shot
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj58/drkpics/Multi%20Tools/Leathermanside1.jpg)

They center a quality view of a great tool,cant get enough ,good luck and keep posting great pics.

 :drool:

-JS
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: GNandGS on September 07, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
Yup, gonna bring back an old thread!

Been carrying and using nearly every day the LM Radio Shack (like an E4) until I sent it in for warranty work.  The blade was missing the tip and oddly one corner of the large flat blade screwdriver.  Everything worked but after nearly 10 years I decided to send it in for a refresh.

As I am no longer near the US, and with no international repair, what they do is replace with equiv model.  I'm very ok with that as a policy and the of picking up my new Squirt ES4 today is no issue.  In the RS model I really liked the small flat screwdriver and the 3D phillips worked great.  Not sure if having scissors will make up for not having them.  (A lot of topics praise scissors, any reason I'm missing?)

Regret not taking pics of my old one but here is the new one.  2010 stamping, no rivets.  Glad I didn't buy here!  RM199 isn't cheap.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on September 07, 2012, 08:43:47 PM
welcome to the Club. :D  I think it is a shame that they didn't bring over the 3D Phillips as well, but the flat one is...OK.  Congratulations on getting a first production run with the torx screws rather than the rivets. :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: GNandGS on September 08, 2012, 03:32:20 AM
Thanks. I hadn't actually considered mods before but now that the option presents itself I feel pretty good about it... if I find no use for scissors I might pick up a used unit for parts.  No hurry though.  I'll give the scissors a chance since so many seem to prefer having them.

Glad you understood my rambling!  Looks like at least part of that got garbled up during an edit.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on September 08, 2012, 08:09:09 AM
I love the Squirts! :D I'm sure you'll find use for the scissors, they're a treasure to have :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on October 17, 2012, 05:45:12 PM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/nikoleta_rangelova/MTOLM.jpg)


Joining with a red one :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: loki-mobile on October 21, 2012, 11:13:53 PM
Mistaken PS4
(http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii482/loki-mobile/Squirt/41_zpsca0ade63.jpg)
(http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii482/loki-mobile/Squirt/40_zpsdc310b44.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on October 21, 2012, 11:17:51 PM
Wow, that's an unusual mistake. :o  Very cool and well worth keeping hold of. :salute:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: GNandGS on October 22, 2012, 12:30:41 AM
Awl and small flat screwdriver?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: New_World on October 22, 2012, 03:23:48 AM
Wow, that's an unusual mistake. :o  Very cool and well worth keeping hold of. :salute:

never seen one of those mistakes.
rare
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on October 22, 2012, 03:38:49 AM
Mistaken PS4
Are you saying you bought it new and it came that way out of the sealed package?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on October 22, 2012, 06:08:09 AM
Lol, I've seen such on eBay :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: loki-mobile on October 22, 2012, 01:31:33 PM
Mistaken PS4
Are you saying you bought it new and it came that way out of the sealed package?
No, I bought it used.
Title: Add a FREE TOOL to your Leatherman PS4/ES4, no skills necessary!
Post by: mzil on December 11, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
I just added a better, close up video regarding my discovery:

Leatherman Squirt PS4 Secret Pin Storage Hole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBBRLL_687w#ws)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on December 12, 2012, 02:24:51 PM
good video mate. :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on December 12, 2012, 10:46:06 PM
^ Thanks.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: colt 1911 on December 12, 2012, 11:03:49 PM
Awesome thanks, my wife carrys the ps4 and i will be adding a pin !!!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: invitus on March 16, 2013, 04:42:08 AM
my lego ES4

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/moz6/155604E2-06A6-4967-B7A3-B9E61B923AAA-298-0000000E4709D2ED_zpsddfb071a.jpg?t=1363403672)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/moz6/6D13B298-4FDD-45B7-9B8B-523845E57B38-298-0000000E264E94D2_zps4ba0da88.jpg?t=1363403649)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Lynn LeFey on March 29, 2013, 02:07:32 AM
Just joined today, with a new red model.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Mr Biriyani on March 30, 2013, 12:49:13 PM
A blue ES4 came my way today. :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mulou on April 01, 2013, 10:14:30 AM
I used my ES4 for a couple of month and i found it more useful than i thought it'd be.. anyways:


still love it tho.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: powernoodle on April 02, 2013, 03:24:48 PM
(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o487/BirchHardwood/20130402_090838.jpg)

(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o487/BirchHardwood/20130402_091123.jpg)

(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o487/BirchHardwood/20130402_091242.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Metal Mickey on April 02, 2013, 04:11:21 PM
I'm in with a black PS4. Used the cutters a couple of times so far for snipping the excess off of cable ties.
I think I have read of some people having quality issues with these, but I have to say that (although I have relatively little experience with multitools compared to many on here) I am quite impressed with the overall feel of this little tool. Probably more so that my Juice XE6 where everything seems either too looe or too tight. Like Goldilocks's porridge - the PS4 seems just right.  :tu:


Edit: I have also done a trial test of the bottle opener (cap lifter??) on a beer bottle. Because it is so small it took a few seconds to get it into position and latched in properly - but once it was it took the top off first time without problem.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Metropolicity on April 02, 2013, 05:48:09 PM
Custom ES4!

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8599701107_411eb0d3a6_c.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8379/8600801398_52feb2d024_c.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8100/8599702131_363d117f4e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on April 02, 2013, 06:28:29 PM
Very sexy! What are the scales made of?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Metropolicity on April 02, 2013, 06:54:40 PM
Very sexy! What are the scales made of?

3d printed steel from Shapeways. I designed them!

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/metro-qbranch
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on April 02, 2013, 08:46:52 PM
Interesting stuff. Sorry, but I'm not quite sure I followed. Are people with PS4s with rivots expected to drill them out and replace them? Or are your things only for people with Torx hinged PS4s in the first place? Thanks.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: powernoodle on April 02, 2013, 08:56:59 PM
I'm not quite sure I followed.

The torx flavor is no longer made, which means we want it more.  You always want what you can't have.  And guys like the torx flavor because its easy to disassemble.  But for most of us, we'll never disassemble our PS4 anyway, so it doesn't really matter if its held together with torx or rivets. 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Metropolicity on April 02, 2013, 10:23:59 PM
I'm not quite sure I followed.

The torx flavor is no longer made, which means we want it more.  You always want what you can't have.  And guys like the torx flavor because its easy to disassemble.  But for most of us, we'll never disassemble our PS4 anyway, so it doesn't really matter if its held together with torx or rivets.

Correct, some still float around.

I am assuming that anyone who WANTS to do the mod, will buy their own new pivots and have some know how.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: obonaven on May 26, 2013, 04:24:29 AM
Here is my Bomb Defuser version of the ES4.  Got it on eBay and it seemed appropriate since it has the stripper head.  Paid $15.00

It's available at http://www.makershed.com/Make_Bomb_Defuser_Leatherman_ES4_p/mkltm2.htm


(http://i39.tinypic.com/k9ewj6.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: David on May 31, 2013, 09:16:42 AM
Cool ES4!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on June 01, 2013, 09:37:12 AM
very cool. 8)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on June 01, 2013, 09:45:59 AM
The custom ES4.... WHOA
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: detron on June 24, 2013, 01:25:34 AM
Love my ES4

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Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: rberlin on July 29, 2013, 04:16:09 PM
Finally got a PS4 last week.  At work I'm worried about carrying a knife.  I've never read anything prohibiting them, but I don't carry anything larger than what will fit on my keys just in case.  Normally this would be a Style CS, Micra and/or a Wenger Pocket Tool Chest. 
Missing my otherwise ever-present Skeletool, I got the Squirt so I would at least have a hypothetical pair of pliers.  Nice little pliers too.  I love the blue handles.

Problem is, the Squirt is not as good as I've come to expect from Leatherman in regards to small tools. Big problem is that there is a lot of side to side play in the file and knife.  I think the rivet is loose and I will have to send this in for warranty.  My other issues are more nitpicky.  Scissors are loose when first opened but tighten and work great when under tension.  Shouldn't complain because they work, and were probably designed this way, but they're not as nice as the scissors on the Wenger.  The grinds on the drivers are uneven.  The Phillips driver is ground almost twice as far on the outside than on the inside.  Again, this shouldn't bother me, and probably wouldn't if it hadn't been for the Micra's perfect fit and finish. 

I'm now realizing that I should have bought a Style PS, and carried that with either the Micra or the Pocket Tool Chest.  It would have been a bit cheaper too.  I've only ever read great things about the Squirt though, so please tell me if I'm way off base with my opinions here. 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on July 29, 2013, 09:47:43 PM
I love the PS4, but you are right, the scissors aren't its strong point. My Micra , Vic Classic SD, etc all are better in the scissors department.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Shorty66 on August 09, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
I really do like the style /squirt scissors. They are sufficiently sharp for nail cutting and to most other scissor jobs well, if not very fast as they are small.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: angusW on August 15, 2013, 05:48:03 AM
Here's my custom PS4

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8107_zps73dfb16c.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8107_zps73dfb16c.jpg.html)

A Kydex sheath I made which I carry on my work keys. It's secure but when I need it, it's very accessible.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8135_zps1a98b389.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8135_zps1a98b389.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: detron on August 15, 2013, 06:00:06 AM
I love it, 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on August 15, 2013, 06:04:31 AM
Very nice, angusW. Are the non-standard tools Frankensteined off of other models, or did you make them?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: enki_ck on August 15, 2013, 01:31:26 PM
Love the 3d Phillips, angusW. :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: angusW on August 15, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
Very nice, angusW. Are the non-standard tools Frankensteined off of other models, or did you make them?

Thanks. The package opener is from a Dime. The awl is from a P4 which I mangled a bit on the belt grinder, the 3d Phillips from an E4, file is from an S4 and the scissors came from a Style. The rest are standard PS4 :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: bmot on August 15, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
I do wonder, why two bottleopeners?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: angusW on August 15, 2013, 06:50:22 PM
I do wonder, why two bottleopeners?
To open bottles twice as fast  ;)

Seriously though, the drivers are different sizes. I don't even need a bottle opener on this particular tool but two different drivers just happened to be attached to bottle openers.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: enki_ck on August 15, 2013, 07:13:08 PM
I do wonder, why two bottleopeners?
To open bottles twice as fast  ;)

Seriously though, the drivers are different sizes. I don't even need a bottle opener on this particular tool but two different drivers just happened to be attached to bottle openers.

Those are bottle openers? :think: I thought they were bottle cap mangling devices. :P Oh, and screwdrivers. ;)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: zoidberg on August 15, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Here's my custom PS4

 8) :salute: :tu:

Would you mind taking some more pics showing what you've done please. :pok:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: angusW on August 16, 2013, 04:24:27 AM
Here's my custom PS4

 8) :salute: :tu:

Would you mind taking some more pics showing what you've done please. :pok:
Will do but the guy you want to be talking about this sort of thing is Metro. He's the one I stole the idea from  :D

Here's the package opener from the Gerber Dime with a file from a LM PS4 on top of it. I used the profile of the file to grind the correct shape for the package opener for the pivot. It's a before shot.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8034_zps8479cda4.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8034_zps8479cda4.jpg.html)

Here's a shot of it when I was testing out different parts.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8043_zpse854c7a2.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8043_zpse854c7a2.jpg.html)

I used Dremel bits as temporary pivots. The pivots are 1/8". You can buy longer ones from here (http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/product_info.php?products_id=471) if you want to go with a 3 layer PS4 like I did.

It's not difficult to drill out the original pivots and there are some PS4's kicking around with the hex pivot heads like Lowes Canada.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: zoidberg on August 16, 2013, 08:47:01 AM
Thanks. I can't 'see' what you've done though. Maybe front, back and end on shots of each handle would help.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: angusW on August 17, 2013, 03:11:11 AM
Thanks. I can't 'see' what you've done though. Maybe front, back and end on shots of each handle would help.  :cheers:
I'll get some more pics up for ya in a bit.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: angusW on August 17, 2013, 07:18:53 AM
Here's a comparison of a regular Squirt on the right and the 3 layer on the left.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8372_zps69e9fa62.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8372_zps69e9fa62.jpg.html)

3 Layer opened up showing the extra back spring.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8374_zps36378355.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8374_zps36378355.jpg.html)

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8378_zps1b8f1b73.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/_MG_8378_zps1b8f1b73.jpg.html)

Here you can see the extra back spring. I circled the part where I had to cut it back a bit so that the nail nicks on the awl and small screw driver are exposed.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/218ed50f-0bd6-4323-baff-8e8de785e4bd_zps6284010f.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/218ed50f-0bd6-4323-baff-8e8de785e4bd_zps6284010f.jpg.html)

The other side, again with the extra back spring cut back to expose the nail nicks for the two screw drivers.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t237/dafeichu/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/e2c31cc8-02e3-45cf-9471-4b9f4f26f3ef_zps96ffaeb1.jpg) (http://s161.photobucket.com/user/dafeichu/media/knife/edc/LM%20Squirt/e2c31cc8-02e3-45cf-9471-4b9f4f26f3ef_zps96ffaeb1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: zoidberg on August 18, 2013, 03:21:20 AM
Here's some money shots.

Awesome, thankyou for doing that.    :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gareth on August 19, 2013, 01:23:43 AM
that's an awesome mod Angus. :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Quixotica on August 19, 2013, 03:16:40 AM
I just got a PS4.  It's a pretty awesome little tool. But now that I see what AngusW has done, it has me wondering about the possibility of swapping the file on the PS4 out with the package opener from a Dime.  Outside of matching the pivot area to the file, what else would need to be modded to have the nail nick on the correct side of the scale? 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: CanadianLMfan on December 25, 2013, 05:55:56 PM
I didn't join the club yet! :ahhh

(http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w539/CanadianLMfan/squirtPS4_zps7579425a.png) (http://s1328.photobucket.com/user/CanadianLMfan/media/squirtPS4_zps7579425a.png.html)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Monrogue on December 26, 2013, 04:22:21 PM
Oh I feel like a dunce :facepalm:  I posted my new Squirt PS4 in the wrong thread (I think the P4, S4 one).  I will have to post pics in here later. 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Monrogue on December 27, 2013, 04:34:24 AM
Here are the pics of my PS4 :)

(http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u649/khtibbetts/MTs-SAKs/IMG_20131217_162521_703_zpsd8ba28d4.jpg) (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/khtibbetts/media/MTs-SAKs/IMG_20131217_162521_703_zpsd8ba28d4.jpg.html)
(http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u649/khtibbetts/MTs-SAKs/IMG_20131217_162626_196_zps534d4d15.jpg) (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/khtibbetts/media/MTs-SAKs/IMG_20131217_162626_196_zps534d4d15.jpg.html)
(http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u649/khtibbetts/MTs-SAKs/IMG_20131217_162710_770_zpsb630591b.jpg) (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/khtibbetts/media/MTs-SAKs/IMG_20131217_162710_770_zpsb630591b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Mr Biriyani on December 29, 2013, 11:29:33 AM
I got myself my first PS4 for Christmas. I already have the ES4 but this is surely a nice addition.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: enki_ck on December 29, 2013, 11:45:12 AM
I got myself my first PS4 for Christmas. I already have the ES4 but this is surely a nice addition.

(http://forum.multitool.org/leatherman-tools/squirt-es4ps4-owner's-club/?action=dlattach;attach=90483;image)

I like this picture a lot. :cheers:

Welcome to the club. :D

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Mr Biriyani on December 29, 2013, 09:51:28 PM

I like this picture a lot. :cheers:

Welcome to the club. :D

Thanks Enki. :cheers:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Monrogue on December 29, 2013, 11:41:18 PM
I got myself my first PS4 for Christmas. I already have the ES4 but this is surely a nice addition.

(http://forum.multitool.org/leatherman-tools/squirt-es4ps4-owner's-club/?action=dlattach;attach=90483;image)

I like this picture a lot. :cheers:

Welcome to the club. :D

+1  :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: JAfromMn on December 30, 2013, 01:10:46 AM
I got myself my first PS4 for Christmas. I already have the ES4 but this is surely a nice addition.

(http://forum.multitool.org/leatherman-tools/squirt-es4ps4-owner's-club/?action=dlattach;attach=90483;image)

I like this picture a lot. :cheers:

Welcome to the club. :D

+1  :D

+2

I just got a blue ps4 I love this pic.

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Monrogue on December 30, 2013, 04:16:49 AM
What do you think of the PS4 Joel?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: hiljentaa on December 31, 2013, 02:33:32 AM
I've been carrying my PS4 almost exclusively lately.

I love how much function it packs into such a small package...though I really wish mine were a grey P4 instead. The scissors on the PS4 are close to useless (and I love scissors).
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: PPCAPache on February 18, 2014, 05:43:27 AM
Just got my LM Squirt PS4 in the mail yesterday, like this little MT even more than the Micra, which I have given to my lovely wife.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/18/vude8a2y.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/18/nejaqane.jpg)

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Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: JAfromMn on February 20, 2014, 02:02:40 AM
What do you think of the PS4 Joel?

I wanted to wait awhile before I said how I felt about the ps4 Kyle

ps4 thoughts

I'm more than happy with it.

 Its my 2nd ps4 my first was not made very well. It was quite awhile ago and I got it used so it must have been one of the first ps4s made. Its tools all had weak springs that where sloppy its pliers where misaligned, its scissors would not cut paper, the grind of the blade was off on one side.

my latest ps4 in blue this time is flawless. All the little tools have a nice snap. The scissors are tiny but work fine on everything I've used them on except They won't cut tissue paper (a Vic classic or similar little vics scissors all will) they will cut small wire ties (vics don't). I've used the Phillips on both #1and #2 screws ok. Its to small to really use for much but it works, the flat driver is a little better it fits alot of flats buts its also to small to handle rusty stuck screws or doing any real prying,.
the file is a file not a nail file I haven't used it but it looks like its made well I'd prefer if it was a diamond file . The pliers work fine for the little jobs I like the spring action, I've cut paper clips and thin wire with its cutters I don't think it would be good for it to cut a coat hanger but I think it could.

overall a nice little tool.


its also cute   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: CanadianLMfan on February 20, 2014, 02:09:57 AM
What do you think of the PS4 Joel?

I wanted to wait awhile before I said how I felt about the ps4 Kyle

ps4 thoughts

I'm more than happy with it.

 Its my 2nd ps4 my first was not made very well. It was quite awhile ago and I got it used so it must have been one of the first ps4s made. Its tools all had weak springs that where sloppy its pliers where misaligned, its scissors would not cut paper, the grind of the blade was off on one side.

my latest ps4 in blue this time is flawless. All the little tools have a nice snap. The scissors are tiny but work fine on everything I've used them on except They won't cut tissue paper (a Vic classic or similar little vics scissors all will) they will cut small wire ties (vics don't). I've used the Phillips on both #1and #2 screws ok. Its to small to really use for much but it works, the flat driver is a little better it fits alot of flats buts its also to small to handle rusty stuck screws or doing any real prying,.
the file is a file not a nail file I haven't used it but it looks like its made well I'd prefer if it was a diamond file . The pliers work fine for the little jobs I like the spring action, I've cut paper clips and thin wire with its cutters I don't think it would be good for it to cut a coat hanger but I think it could.

overall a nice little tool.


its also cute   :facepalm:

Much better than that Gadget, eh? :pok:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: JAfromMn on February 20, 2014, 02:13:18 AM
What do you think of the PS4 Joel?

I wanted to wait awhile before I said how I felt about the ps4 Kyle

ps4 thoughts

I'm more than happy with it.

 Its my 2nd ps4 my first was not made very well. It was quite awhile ago and I got it used so it must have been one of the first ps4s made. Its tools all had weak springs that where sloppy its pliers where misaligned, its scissors would not cut paper, the grind of the blade was off on one side.

my latest ps4 in blue this time is flawless. All the little tools have a nice snap. The scissors are tiny but work fine on everything I've used them on except They won't cut tissue paper (a Vic classic or similar little vics scissors all will) they will cut small wire ties (vics don't). I've used the Phillips on both #1and #2 screws ok. Its to small to really use for much but it works, the flat driver is a little better it fits alot of flats buts its also to small to handle rusty stuck screws or doing any real prying,.
the file is a file not a nail file I haven't used it but it looks like its made well I'd prefer if it was a diamond file . The pliers work fine for the little jobs I like the spring action, I've cut paper clips and thin wire with its cutters I don't think it would be good for it to cut a coat hanger but I think it could.

overall a nice little tool.


its also cute   :facepalm:

Much better than that Gadget, eh? :pok:

I doubt it.

Leatherman can't improve perfection.


can they ???
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: CanadianLMfan on February 20, 2014, 02:13:53 AM
What do you think of the PS4 Joel?

I wanted to wait awhile before I said how I felt about the ps4 Kyle

ps4 thoughts

I'm more than happy with it.

 Its my 2nd ps4 my first was not made very well. It was quite awhile ago and I got it used so it must have been one of the first ps4s made. Its tools all had weak springs that where sloppy its pliers where misaligned, its scissors would not cut paper, the grind of the blade was off on one side.

my latest ps4 in blue this time is flawless. All the little tools have a nice snap. The scissors are tiny but work fine on everything I've used them on except They won't cut tissue paper (a Vic classic or similar little vics scissors all will) they will cut small wire ties (vics don't). I've used the Phillips on both #1and #2 screws ok. Its to small to really use for much but it works, the flat driver is a little better it fits alot of flats buts its also to small to handle rusty stuck screws or doing any real prying,.
the file is a file not a nail file I haven't used it but it looks like its made well I'd prefer if it was a diamond file . The pliers work fine for the little jobs I like the spring action, I've cut paper clips and thin wire with its cutters I don't think it would be good for it to cut a coat hanger but I think it could.

overall a nice little tool.


its also cute   :facepalm:

Much better than that Gadget, eh? :pok:

I doubt it.

Leatherman can't improve perfection.


can they ???

Yes they can. ;)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Monrogue on February 20, 2014, 03:43:51 AM
What do you think of the PS4 Joel?

I wanted to wait awhile before I said how I felt about the ps4 Kyle

ps4 thoughts

I'm more than happy with it.

 Its my 2nd ps4 my first was not made very well. It was quite awhile ago and I got it used so it must have been one of the first ps4s made. Its tools all had weak springs that where sloppy its pliers where misaligned, its scissors would not cut paper, the grind of the blade was off on one side.

my latest ps4 in blue this time is flawless. All the little tools have a nice snap. The scissors are tiny but work fine on everything I've used them on except They won't cut tissue paper (a Vic classic or similar little vics scissors all will) they will cut small wire ties (vics don't). I've used the Phillips on both #1and #2 screws ok. Its to small to really use for much but it works, the flat driver is a little better it fits alot of flats buts its also to small to handle rusty stuck screws or doing any real prying,.
the file is a file not a nail file I haven't used it but it looks like its made well I'd prefer if it was a diamond file . The pliers work fine for the little jobs I like the spring action, I've cut paper clips and thin wire with its cutters I don't think it would be good for it to cut a coat hanger but I think it could.

overall a nice little tool.


its also cute   :facepalm:

Yeah, it's really a good little tool.  I've ended up putting mine on my keys as it's got all the little basics.  The Micra is great too, but lacks pliers, so I figured the PS4 was a better fit for the keys so that I have both scissors and pliers should I only be carrying my keys (which never happens).  Glad you like it :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: gregozedobe on May 27, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Do PS4's come in two different reds ? 

I have two dark red (burgundy) PS4s, but I've also seen lots of photos of PS4s that appear a brighter red (more like the usual LM red).
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 27, 2014, 03:10:27 PM
Maybe the brighter ones are just.... worn a bit? Or the cameras don't do them justice... I've had two and they looked the same.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: JAfromMn on May 28, 2014, 02:01:45 AM
I picked up a es4 awhile back and its been part of my work edc since.

its been a great little tool.

id buy another if I lost it.


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/JAfromMn/temporary_zpsf758786f.jpg)

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: kosmo on March 22, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/60510496.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Miknitro on May 08, 2015, 12:08:57 AM
Hi all, I've a addition to this club to make.
That is if I can post a image alright or not anyways.

Didn't work, I'll have to resize a little later on, my bad for not having pics good to go.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/07/e1a3ce910f6f09eeabe8f363a353efe6.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/07/90d75204f84472f4c06da222cfab3ba7.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/07/a729b2c9768e9d94c73ab0d241f95d38.jpg)


(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/07/79b87f265ea32e1d8439d1d97be2dfad.jpg)


Mike
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: enki_ck on May 08, 2015, 10:35:39 AM
That's a shiny one. :dd:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: DazMechanical on May 10, 2015, 05:26:56 AM
A quick pic I mine

(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah42/DazMechanical/Mobile%20Uploads/4613C8E3-60F8-49C3-93D3-B336C6F811DF_zpsei2vxlfy.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/DazMechanical/media/Mobile%20Uploads/4613C8E3-60F8-49C3-93D3-B336C6F811DF_zpsei2vxlfy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Kampfer on May 14, 2015, 06:35:40 PM
Has anyone tried pushing them to their limits?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: N_N_R on May 14, 2015, 06:42:44 PM
Has anyone tried pushing them to their limits?

I think I tried cutting ... steel wire (I cant' remember the right word for that now actually  :twak:), the hardest wire there is... lol. With the ES4, I think... well, the pliers got sliiiightly chewd up, kinda and the cutters slipped and the wire got betweeen the cutters, so to speak, instead of getting cut.... like when you try to cut something with really blunt scissors. Maybe that counts :D
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: DazMechanical on May 15, 2015, 11:01:24 AM
Has anyone tried pushing them to their limits?

Well Im on my 3rd PS4 now! The first one was quite good, I assembled a flat pack TV unit with it, worked exceptionally well for a keychain size tool, until I broke the scissors by cutting a cable tie, on the second one I broke the blade spring opening all the tools up at once. I'm not risking breaking any thing else so these ones aren't used anymore!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: dedalos on March 21, 2016, 10:56:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mlK7WB0.jpg)

Hello to everyone. I need owners of the ES4 to inform me if this is the quality of the wire cutters.
Mine has this angled oval shape where it should be a perfect circles.
For me the tool is useless because was bought only for the wire cutters and as i work a lot with electronics i use the smallest holes in the cutters witch are the worst in the tool.
Thank you for any info you provide.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: GNandGS on March 21, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
Never had an issue with mine.  3 sets
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: GNandGS on April 05, 2016, 06:27:47 PM
Decided to look closer... "yes" the openings are oval, but functions ok.  If the wire+jacket is not the right size you might need to be creative.

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Humppa on April 05, 2016, 07:31:04 PM
Dang... I need to get one of those PS4s soon. The Squirt is a pattern that I would love to EDC next to a nice SAK ... and I would be set up for the day...  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: gregozedobe on April 06, 2016, 03:27:12 AM
For me the tool is useless because was bought only for the wire cutters and as i work a lot with electronics i use the smallest holes in the cutters witch are the worst in the tool.

Maybe have a look at the Bear & Son Electrician model ?  (or if you want a much larger tool try to find a Paladin PT-540)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Eld on April 11, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
The Squirt PS4 is a great tool but sometimes you really need a better pry bar.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Eld on April 12, 2016, 09:34:10 PM
The Squirt saved me today when I realized that I forgot the paint can opener after a 35 minute drive to the boat. My Squirt opened both cans for the epoxi primer.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ttpower on June 02, 2016, 04:25:49 PM
I'm planning on getting the Squirt but kind of holding back because of what I read about the scissors breaking easily.
Did LM made improvements on the scissors lately?
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: an0nemus on November 24, 2017, 04:23:08 AM
Just got one as a gift and am luvin it
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171124/fd96ef151168de35291a0f121f118e55.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Glockfan on November 24, 2017, 04:50:19 AM
Great little tool. Congrats!
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: an0nemus on November 24, 2017, 05:34:36 AM
Great little tool. Congrats!
Thanks! I'm impressed by the build quality of this little MT
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Exeter on November 30, 2017, 09:11:45 PM
Here's my PS4. And a group pic with its cousins. The Squirt and the black Micra take turns as my fifth-pocket EDC mini tools.

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Poncho65 on November 30, 2017, 09:15:38 PM
Nice an0n and Exeter :tu: :like:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Gerhard Gerber on December 07, 2017, 11:33:59 AM
I'm in :salute:
(https://s17.postimg.org/mea1rw54f/20171203_181140_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ThundahBeagle on December 21, 2017, 10:47:48 PM
Dammit, now I'm in, too!

That's an even 10 Leatherman tools for me.

Y-yikes!

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ThePeacent on December 22, 2017, 09:50:11 PM
black PS4 is king of keychain MTs, unrivaled in looks and function   :salute:

(https://i.imgur.com/7KQ5IJN.jpg)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Poncho65 on December 23, 2017, 04:39:40 AM
Have gifted a couple of the PS4's but don't own one :facepalm:

I have all of the old Squirts though and they are nice plus the Style PS :cheers: and I do like it rather well :like:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ReamerPunch on December 23, 2017, 05:36:29 AM
I'm a fan of the old ones as well. Going from P4 to PS4 we lost the tiny awl.  :rant:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: gerleatherberman on December 23, 2017, 06:59:39 AM
Had this ES4 for a while and forgot about it. Going to try it out tomorrow and see how it works. Goes well with a solitaire it seems. I like anodized blue. :drool:

I am joining the ES4/PS4 club, but just with my ES4...for now. :)
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: n4vgm on December 27, 2017, 04:48:17 PM
I have a PS4 and a P4 but the PS4 scissors spring broke just yesterday clipping off a Christmas gift tag. The scissors are the most used tool so it was bound to happen someday.

I submitted a warranty claim and will send it back to Tim. Carrying a Vic Huntsman now.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on December 27, 2017, 05:22:32 PM
Ouch - spring arm broken... good luck getting it replaced, should not normally be a problem.

Sent on my SM-G930F with Tapatalk

Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: n4vgm on December 27, 2017, 05:49:09 PM
My sister found the bit, it sailed off and I heard it hit the wall next to a rolling cart in the kitchen. I had given up finding but she came through!

Not that they need it to see it was broken but maybe they can learn something from how it came apart.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: gregozedobe on December 27, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
My sister found the bit, it sailed off and I heard it hit the wall next to a rolling cart in the kitchen. I had given up finding but she came through!

Not that they need it to see it was broken but maybe they can learn something from how it came apart.

Trust me, LM already know, unfortunately it is quite a common fault on the small Squirt scissors, and seems to happen even if they are hardly used.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: n4vgm on January 03, 2018, 03:48:44 PM
I bought it used and use the scissors regularly. Oh well, I thought it might be of interest, metallurgically speaking. I just received a Style PS for myself as we will be flying soon but carrying that today. Nice little tool and so light weight.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: magentus on February 21, 2018, 03:20:51 PM
Great little tool! This one is always on the desk ready for action.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Obi1shinobee on March 13, 2018, 03:57:36 AM
 :multi:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Marcellus on March 16, 2018, 04:19:41 AM
Ok, I give up.

Please tell me where the date code is located?

My old eyes need a hint where to start looking.

Thanks

BTW the squirt is used as much or more than my other tools. At least in my case.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: TazzieRob on March 16, 2018, 11:16:43 AM
Ok, I give up.

Please tell me where the date code is located?

My old eyes need a hint where to start looking.

Thanks

BTW the squirt is used as much or more than my other tools. At least in my case.

Plier end inside, only two numbers. Mine has 13, I think for the year only
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Marcellus on March 16, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
Thanks Tazzie, got it

8/14 rivoted together.

Marcellus
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Faddy Daddy on June 03, 2018, 02:47:33 AM
I really like these newer squirts. I like em better than a swiss and they've even replaced my micra.
I don't need a real heavy duty tool, so these work really well for me, very light and easy to carry. The toolset works well for me as well.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Obi1shinobee on June 03, 2018, 02:56:09 AM
 :like:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Glockfan on June 04, 2018, 01:47:08 PM
Couple good looking tools there!

 :like:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: ChopperCharles on June 04, 2018, 05:49:18 PM
I snagged an ES4 from Amazon... I had no idea how small this thing actually is. The photos make it look like a full-sized tool. So I was very skeptical... and then I opened it up. Wow, it's actually quite a useful size when all folded out. Surprisingly so. And it works really well on all gauges of wire I've tried. It's going in my motorcycle tool bag permanently, and I'm going to have to buy another one for my workbench.

Charles.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Faddy Daddy on June 05, 2018, 03:49:01 AM
My PS4 stays in my pocket all the time, my ES4 at the bench.
Yeah, just a fantastic little tool, I still am amazed they've replaced my micra. I do like the tools opening up on the outside vs the internal micra, very handy.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: mzil on June 07, 2018, 07:32:48 PM
^ You can modify the Micra so that the tools open from the outside, preserving 90% of the stock tools yet cutting the bulk in half:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlETPnEYoo4
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Darrell85 on December 23, 2018, 06:12:41 AM
Been looking at the es for quite a while now. I am a service tech, and would like a small multitool that has a real wire stripper that can disappear into my pocket until i need it as a backup or to save a trip back to the truck. I have had concerns about how well it actually functions with the small size. Anyone actually give this tool some real use? Thanks in advance for all input.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Multitool_paul on March 01, 2019, 03:05:02 AM
Had the Squirt PS 4 on my key ring for 3 months, didn't like it. Never used the pliers, the outside tools got full of grime and hard to open, and for me the tools are generally too small to be practical. So I got a Micra which is much better for the keyring role for me. The Squirt I thought would be good because it had the manly pliers instead of scissors but it didn't work out. It lives in the desk drawer now where it won't get much use unfortunately, so I am member of the owners club but this multitool gets a fail from me in what I intended to use it for.  :cheers: 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: gregozedobe on March 01, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
Had the Squirt PS 4 on my key ring for 3 months, didn't like it. Never used the pliers, the outside tools got full of grime and hard to open, and for me the tools are generally too small to be practical. So I got a Micra which is much better for the keyring role for me. The Squirt I thought would be good because it had the manly pliers instead of scissors but it didn't work out. It lives in the desk drawer now where it won't get much use unfortunately, so I am member of the owners club but this multitool gets a fail from me in what I intended to use it for.  :cheers:

It is interesting how the same tool can get a totally different rating from two people just because their usage/needs are very different.  The PS4 didn't work out for you, and yet I've been EDCing a P4 as my sole EDC MT for years now, and have been very happy with it (and I have many, many other MTs I could EDC if I wanted to).  I'm not saying either of us is wrong, it is just how our requirements are so different. ETTO, YMMV and all that  :tu:
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Aloha on March 01, 2019, 06:19:04 PM
Its very interesting the perspectives.  I quite like my P4 and PS4 very much.  The scissors on my PS4 have been flawless so far.  The tool set is wonderful.  I keep mine in my coin/watch pocket ready when needed.  I have a couple back ups just in case something go wrong with it.  I don't want to be without this tool. 
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Multitool_paul on March 02, 2019, 03:17:37 AM
It is interesting how the same tool can get a totally different rating from two people just because their usage/needs are very different.  The PS4 didn't work out for you, and yet I've been EDCing a P4 as my sole EDC MT for years now, and have been very happy with it (and I have many, many other MTs I could EDC if I wanted to).  I'm not saying either of us is wrong, it is just how our requirements are so different. ETTO, YMMV and all that  :tu:

Different strokes for different folks, really comes down to needs. When I got it I thought it was cool and would be really useful but it didn't workout as a keyring tool for me and gave me an excuse to buy a Micra which I love.
Title: Re: Squirt ES4/PS4 Owner's Club
Post by: Blackbeard on May 24, 2019, 03:37:57 AM
Disappointed with the one I just picked up PS4. I had sold my blue early version many years ago, had a glossier finish, I wanted the E version but could never find it on sale...any way I got one today 25% off, but the philips is very tight/difficult to extract and does not snap back into handle, kinda have to shove it in, the scissors open nicely but again wont snap closed into handle either.

I think the rivet on the philips is too tight and is squeezing scales too much causing these issues. It was also bone dry, oiling it hasn't helped, might have to exchange it if it doesn't improve with some fidgeting, I don't recall if my previous version had these issues, but this one is pretty bad.

Can anyone tell me if this is close to normal operation? I don't want to drive back to the store, exchange it and find the same issue and have to go back again  :rofl: Honestly I've been getting a lot of duds/lemons lately and starting to get soured on new purchases unless it's a Vic which are always good...