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Title: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Philby on June 06, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Couldn't find one so thought I'd start. Here's mine, version1 ST1 on the left, version 2 on the right. All Schrade tough tools welcome!
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: toolguy on June 06, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
What's the length of that tool when closed ?

What does it weigh ?

Will you post a pic of it closed.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Philby on June 06, 2014, 10:52:53 PM
It's about 10mm longer than the original supertool in the pic closed, open there's less in it. I make the weight out about 240g. It's a really strong tool. See this;
http://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=ST1+Tough+Tool
They still make the version 4 tool, I have one but it's a shadow of versions 1,2 and 3. If your interested in getting one just make sure it has U.S.A on the plier head, and your guaranteed one of the better versions!
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on June 06, 2014, 11:37:49 PM
I'm in, I have a couple (of dozen  :facepalm:  ).  I just can't seem to resist them when I see them on eBay.  I even have a DLC ST1 which is very 'cool' ( I like DLC, it just feels nicer in the hand than BO for some reason).

I agree about what rubbish the non-USA versions are - they look much the same but all the quality has been sucked out of them.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: jerseydevil on June 06, 2014, 11:58:37 PM
I'm in.  A while back here on the forum I got a practically brand-new series 1.  Neat, quirky tool.  :tu:  My boss carries a later US made one every day, he swears by it.

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/Jerseydevil379/DSCF1009.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/Jerseydevil379/media/DSCF1009.jpg.html)

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/Jerseydevil379/DSCF1007.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/Jerseydevil379/media/DSCF1007.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Chako on June 07, 2014, 02:57:33 AM
Count me in...but then, I guess I am in on anything lol.  :facepalm:

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_5107small_zps07c14f12.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_5107small_zps07c14f12.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_5108small_zpsa9f377f4.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_5108small_zpsa9f377f4.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_5109small_zpse3a90ed9.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_5109small_zpse3a90ed9.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_5111small_zpsd749adb5.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_5111small_zpsd749adb5.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_5112small_zps6dfdd769.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_5112small_zps6dfdd769.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: toolguy on June 07, 2014, 03:03:06 AM
It's about 10mm longer than the original supertool in the pic closed, open there's less in it. I make the weight out about 240g. It's a really strong tool. See this;
http://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=ST1+Tough+Tool
They still make the version 4 tool, I have one but it's a shadow of versions 1,2 and 3. If your interested in getting one just make sure it has U.S.A on the plier head, and your guaranteed one of the better versions!

Thanks for your response and the link.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: J-sews on June 16, 2014, 10:03:16 PM
Haven't seen any ST5's posted yet:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/ST55_zps6312fa9b.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Philby on June 17, 2014, 12:10:08 AM
Like the ST5! :tu:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Chako on June 17, 2014, 12:38:20 AM
Don't have one yet. Fairly impossible to find up here...but I keep looking. :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on June 17, 2014, 02:34:40 AM
Don't have one yet. Fairly impossible to find up here...but I keep looking. :)

If you want the Craftsman 45471 relabel here's one on ebay that the seller will (supposedly) send to Canada:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111380345275

I think the seller has quite a few of these but so far they have been selling for rather high prices.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: JAfromMn on June 17, 2014, 03:44:37 AM
Some good looking tools.

I really need to give one a try one of these days.

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Philby on June 17, 2014, 10:32:06 AM
Or buy it now for $175! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Multi-tools-45471-Craftsman-tools-Multi-Tool-Survival-Tools-Fishing-Pliers/111373225184?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23423%26meid%3D7678379480174020048%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10050%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111380345275&rt=nc
I put an offer in for $80 they come back with $120, they would probably sell for around a $100, but with import and postage too rich for me. :salute:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Chako on June 17, 2014, 12:02:27 PM
Ouch. I think I will pass.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on June 17, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
Those have been going high. Last one I remember went for over $150+.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on June 17, 2014, 06:23:18 PM
Schrade Tough Tool v1 and v2.    :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on June 17, 2014, 08:12:19 PM
Couple of ST2's
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on June 17, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Craftsman rebrands 45471 and 44509.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on June 17, 2014, 08:56:21 PM
Vise Grip Schrade collaberation. 5WR, ST6, 6LC. A couple 5WR's still in the packaging.    :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: J-sews on June 20, 2014, 03:59:38 AM
Wow, good ones David! And yes, it is quite remarkable how much the ST5 and the Schrade Vice-Grip tools have been selling for. (puts me in mind of the Kershaw A100) :o

Okay, here's one you don't see every day: An ST2, in patriotic red, white, and blue colors :multi:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/st2rwb_zps0e8c0d1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on June 20, 2014, 06:51:01 AM
That's a rare beauty Bob!     8)      :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: neillcurrie on June 20, 2014, 12:18:50 PM
I had two of the original's, gave one away as a gift.
Also have a couple of the Tough Chip scissors-based tools.
I haven't even handled the non-USA made tools, so can't comment on the relative quality, but I think the models I have are great. Would love a slightly less "eclectic" tool selection though.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Higgins617 on September 07, 2014, 11:48:30 PM
Joined the Club with a Series 1 ST1 and a ST2
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: jerseydevil on September 07, 2014, 11:51:10 PM
So you claim. ::)  Remember the first rule of MT.O......  :worthless:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Philby on September 07, 2014, 11:51:41 PM
Joined the Club with a Series 1 ST1 and a ST2
Welcome!  :salute:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Higgins617 on September 08, 2014, 01:26:33 AM
So you claim. ::)  Remember the first rule of MT.O......  :worthless:

Ask and you shall receive! They definitely aren't on the same level as the brand new beauties here, but I couldn't leave them.

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: SteveC on November 21, 2014, 08:00:03 PM
New member and count me in.


(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k115/asc67/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4049_zps62588db2.jpg) (http://s86.photobucket.com/user/asc67/media/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4049_zps62588db2.jpg.html)

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k115/asc67/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4048_zps64306e6f.jpg) (http://s86.photobucket.com/user/asc67/media/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4048_zps64306e6f.jpg.html)

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k115/asc67/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4038_zps872d1ba4.jpg) (http://s86.photobucket.com/user/asc67/media/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4038_zps872d1ba4.jpg.html)

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k115/asc67/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4037_zps2a5d7e79.jpg) (http://s86.photobucket.com/user/asc67/media/Multi%20tools%20and%20Knifes/IMG_4037_zps2a5d7e79.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: enki_ck on November 21, 2014, 08:23:02 PM
So that takes care of the Schrade I asked about. :D


Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on November 22, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
Hello Steve, good lookin Schrade Tough Tool.    :tu:     :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Higgins617 on November 22, 2014, 10:17:39 PM
I don't know if this thread is for more than posting pictures of the tools, but my ST-1 got some use today. Fixed a lawn mower, disassembled(destroyed) a picnic table, and took down quite a few mounted items.

The other night I completely took apart and then correctly reinstalled an accordion door assembly for my friend with just the ST-1, the maintenance crew had done the opposite of fix it...

My reground and reshaped phillips has been working wonderfully, especially since I have no clue what I'm doing with a grinder.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: parnass on November 22, 2014, 10:56:32 PM
Still have the original USA-made Schrade Tough Chip scissors multitool.

I traded off or gave away the larger "Tough to Open" tools.   ;)

(http://parnass.com/knives/tough-chip-small.jpg)

(http://parnass.com/knives/schrade-st1-tough-tool.jpg)

(http://parnass.com/knives/sears-multitool.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Higgins617 on December 19, 2014, 11:42:20 PM
Been carrying it frequently
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: SteveC on December 22, 2014, 10:30:09 PM
Great pics Higgins !
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Higgins617 on December 22, 2014, 11:40:07 PM
Great pics Higgins !

Thanks buddy!
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Mr Biriyani on February 06, 2015, 10:41:28 AM
I got one also. Lovely tool.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on June 28, 2016, 03:14:42 PM
I've just bought an unusual ST1.  It is a USA made version (not the crappy later model ST1), but it has a flush plier pivot - something I've never seen on a USA ST1 before.  It has the older style blade with very fine serrations.  According to the seller it came from the Schrade factory closure sale.  It was marked "Save" and "Old Style". The plier pivot has the usual Schrade logo on it.

Has anyone ever seen this style of plier pivot on a USA ST1 before ?

Here is a link to the auction (click on "see original listing" to see photos).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361600268394

I probably won't see this tool in the metal for a while, as it has to go via Oregon before it gets to Australia.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Yadda on June 29, 2016, 04:13:04 AM
I've just bought an unusual ST1.  It is a USA made version (not the crappy later model ST1), but it has a flush plier pivot - something I've never seen on a USA ST1 before.  It has the older style blade with very fine serrations.  According to the seller it came from the Schrade factory closure sale.  It was marked "Save" and "Old Style". The plier pivot has the usual Schrade logo on it.

Has anyone ever seen this style of plier pivot on a USA ST1 before ?

Here is a link to the auction (click on "see original listing" to see photos).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361600268394

I probably won't see this tool in the metal for a while, as it has to go via Oregon before it gets to Australia.

Another great find!
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: J-sews on July 10, 2016, 04:23:59 AM
I've never seen one with that flush pivot before Greg. :o Perhaps you've got yourself an early design prototype there. Congrats!

If I recall correctly, David has an early ST1 with the fine serrations, but I do not remember anything about the pivot on his. :think:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on July 10, 2016, 05:52:41 AM
I've never seen one with that flush pivot before Greg. :o Perhaps you've got yourself an early design prototype there. Congrats!

If I recall correctly, David has an early ST1 with the fine serrations, but I do not remember anything about the pivot on his. :think:

I have several other ST1 series 1 with fine serrations on the blade, but all of them have the regular (non-flush) plier pivot.  When the flush pivot one arrives in Oz I'll report on any other differences I can see.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: J-sews on July 15, 2016, 08:34:33 PM
I've never seen one with that flush pivot before Greg. :o Perhaps you've got yourself an early design prototype there. Congrats!

If I recall correctly, David has an early ST1 with the fine serrations, but I do not remember anything about the pivot on his. :think:

I have several other ST1 series 1 with fine serrations on the blade, but all of them have the regular (non-flush) plier pivot.  When the flush pivot one arrives in Oz I'll report on any other differences I can see.

Great, I'm looking forward to it! :salute:

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on July 25, 2016, 07:20:55 AM
I have just seen some photos of what looks like an ST1 with flush plier pivots (not the best quality photos, as they are on the packaging of a NIC ST1 that just sold on ebay). Click on "see original listing" to see them:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schrade-Tough-Tool-21-Function-Multi-Tool-w-Nylon-Sheath-ST1NB-OLD-STOCK-USA-/112068062192?hash=item1a17c6ebf0:g:QrcAAOSwTZ1Xk~z-
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: J-sews on July 27, 2016, 04:44:24 PM

Ah, so you think maybe they used an early flush pivot prototype for the packaging photos?

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on July 28, 2016, 01:38:45 AM

Ah, so you think maybe they used an early flush pivot prototype for the packaging photos?

I'm not sure if the tool with flush plier pivots is a "prototype" or that is how the very early production ones were made, but essentially, yes  :)  It was a similar story with the very early PSTs - the photos published in the first catalogue were significantly different to the tools that were actually sold.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: J-sews on July 28, 2016, 03:16:49 AM

Ah, so you think maybe they used an early flush pivot prototype for the packaging photos?

I'm not sure if the tool with flush plier pivots is a "prototype" or that is how the very early production ones were made, but essentially, yes  :)  It was a similar story with the very early PSTs - the photos published in the first catalogue were significantly different to the tools that were actually sold.

I was thinking of that very thing. :salute: :salute:

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: SteveC on August 21, 2016, 04:23:58 PM
What are these worth these days  ?


(http://wiki.multitool.org/show_image.php?id=779)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on August 21, 2016, 05:22:05 PM
What are these worth these days  ?

IIRC I've seen good examples of the Craftsman 45471 (which is a re-label of the Schrade ST5) go for around U$100 recently
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: SteveC on August 21, 2016, 05:52:21 PM
Thanks Greg, I just won one in a two item lot and will probably be flipping it. It's supposed to be in good shape although no pictures of the tools open so I'll find out when I get it. I kind of took a chance because I haven't seen one before and thought it might be worth something.

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on August 23, 2016, 07:37:37 AM
Thanks Greg, I just won one in a two item lot and will probably be flipping it. It's supposed to be in good shape although no pictures of the tools open so I'll find out when I get it. I kind of took a chance because I haven't seen one before and thought it might be worth something.

You got that for good money. But the big question is the screwdriver insert still in it many of the used ones are missing. Espically the early ones with double inserts. Since they are an odd size they are next to impossible to replace since Schrade is long gone.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: SteveC on August 23, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
Thanks for the info David, hopefully it will come with the bit. If not I'll see if I can mod something to work.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: SteveC on August 25, 2016, 09:02:28 PM
Well this is a bust, I think I will be sending it back. The knife blade is broken in half , the chisel tip is chipped, missing the insert and to top it off there is heat damage to some of the tools and plier jaws. Must have belonged to a welder.

Not as described  :twak:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on August 26, 2016, 10:58:32 AM
Bummer. Probably why it was turned where the tools weren't shown. I've bought a lot of tools from them in the past they always did the right thing and took care of any problems back then. Hopefully they still do.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: SteveC on August 27, 2016, 09:29:43 PM
Bummer. Probably why it was turned where the tools weren't shown. I've bought a lot of tools from them in the past they always did the right thing and took care of any problems back then. Hopefully they still do.


He has taken care of it by refunding my money and told me to keep the tool   :tu:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on August 28, 2016, 01:26:15 AM
Good to hear! Got any ideas on restoration?
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on August 28, 2016, 01:43:10 AM
I never saw this thread.  I've had what I think is a V1 ST1 for several months now.  Interesting tool, and solidly built :tu:
(http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u649/khtibbetts/MTs-SAKs/20160825_145053_zpsxmwq140t.jpg) (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/khtibbetts/media/MTs-SAKs/20160825_145053_zpsxmwq140t.jpg.html)
(http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u649/khtibbetts/MTs-SAKs/20160825_145108_zpsyqd48cym.jpg) (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/khtibbetts/media/MTs-SAKs/20160825_145108_zpsyqd48cym.jpg.html)
(http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u649/khtibbetts/MTs-SAKs/20160825_145208_zps7vbtz4gt.jpg) (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/khtibbetts/media/MTs-SAKs/20160825_145208_zps7vbtz4gt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: jerseydevil on August 28, 2016, 03:09:45 AM
Interesting, Kyle. My V1 has a very different main blade than yours.

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/Jerseydevil379/20160827_210434_zpsh2ojgxgj.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/Jerseydevil379/media/20160827_210434_zpsh2ojgxgj.jpg.html)

The serrations on mine are basically nonexistant. Instead, the tool has a full serrated blade.

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/Jerseydevil379/20160827_210538_zpso5ojhpum.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/Jerseydevil379/media/20160827_210538_zpso5ojhpum.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on August 28, 2016, 03:36:13 AM
Interesting, Kyle. My V1 has a very different main blade than yours.

The serrations on mine are basically nonexistant. Instead, the tool has a full serrated blade.


I believe the ST1s with very fine serrations on part of the blade on the combo blade is the very early production version v1, all the later ST1s (that I have or have seen) had the much more common coarser serrations (including most v1 ST1s).
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on August 28, 2016, 03:45:46 AM
Interesting, Kyle. My V1 has a very different main blade than yours.

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/Jerseydevil379/20160827_210434_zpsh2ojgxgj.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/Jerseydevil379/media/20160827_210434_zpsh2ojgxgj.jpg.html)

The serrations on mine are basically nonexistant. Instead, the tool has a full serrated blade.

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/Jerseydevil379/20160827_210538_zpso5ojhpum.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/Jerseydevil379/media/20160827_210538_zpso5ojhpum.jpg.html)

Those are some tiny serrations.  Mine has the full serrated blade as well.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: jerseydevil on August 28, 2016, 04:07:08 AM
Interesting, Kyle. My V1 has a very different main blade than yours.

The serrations on mine are basically nonexistant. Instead, the tool has a full serrated blade.


I believe the ST1s with very fine serrations on part of the blade on the combo blade is the very early production version v1, all the later ST1s (that I have or have seen) had the much more common coarser serrations (including most v1 ST1s).

Neat. I know it's a V1 but didn't realize it was an early one. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: valvestem125 on December 07, 2016, 02:10:12 AM
I have one of these, but never carried it because the tool blades all bypassed the stop with slight force making it unsafe to use.  The pliers are great, to tool is well made. except what I mention.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 14, 2017, 11:44:06 AM
Been looking for a Toughtool club since I received mine a week ago. I'd fancied one for a while and then one came up for a silly price so I grabbed it. I believe it's the ST1 (later version with heavier serrations on the clip point blade).
My only other pliers MT is a Spirit so I won't compare the two, except to acknowledge the TT's jaws open wider than the Spirit's. Needless to say I love the quirky design of the TT. The pouch is fantastic - very heavy duty. The Black Sabbath of MT pouches. I like the tool selection but would've liked scissors and woodsaw instead of the flat 'scraper' blade and 'leatherbore', but never mind.

The only down side I can see is using the knives is difficult because of the way they fold out of the handle. But again, it's one of the quirks and I prefer something with character than not.

I'm glad to join this club  :cheers:
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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 15, 2017, 03:55:08 AM
Welcome to the club Mags.  It is indeed a quirky tool.  Sort of awkward to use, but I am not a heavy user anyway,  and I dig it :tu:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Poncho65 on February 15, 2017, 04:17:24 AM
I have looked at getting one of the USA made early ones for a long while and glad to see that they are still being gotten :cheers: I always like to see Mons carry his and now I can see the pics of yours as well :like: :like:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 15, 2017, 04:58:26 AM
I only really carry it for the occasional TBT though.  It's just kind of heavy for my liking, but it does sit well in my back pocket.  I may carry it this TBT :tu:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 15, 2017, 11:23:36 AM
It's an odd fish. My first experience with an MT was the Spirit so just about any other MT is going to suffer in comparison. It's a classic case of function over form which is a good way round to have a tool, and like you said Mo, it's sometimes awkward to use, but at least it's sturdy and reliable and will do at a pinch.

Here's mine with the gang:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2418/32532936180_99ac6b3c98_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RyPNuL)WP_20170215_002 (https://flic.kr/p/RyPNuL) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 15, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
Yes, it certainly does feel tough and solid.  If I was a frequent user though, I may not enjoy it the same, but I think one could adapt/get used to using it if one had to.  It really is a good MT.  I agree that it could at least have a woodsaw instead of that scraper blade.

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 15, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
Yes, it certainly does feel tough and solid.  If I was a frequent user though, I may not enjoy it the same, but I think one could adapt/get used to using it if one had to.  It really is a good MT.  I agree that it could at least have a woodsaw instead of that scraper blade.

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That would be the single most important change I would make - I gave up trying to saw logs for my fire with the scraping tool. I had to use it to scrape myself up off the floor.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 15, 2017, 03:42:08 PM
Yes, it certainly does feel tough and solid.  If I was a frequent user though, I may not enjoy it the same, but I think one could adapt/get used to using it if one had to.  It really is a good MT.  I agree that it could at least have a woodsaw instead of that scraper blade.

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That would be the single most important change I would make - I gave up trying to saw logs for my fire with the scraping tool. I had to use it to scrape myself up off the floor.
:rofl:

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 16, 2017, 10:51:34 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2417/32890483936_4416bc1e07_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S7qjZf)WP_20170216_009 (https://flic.kr/p/S7qjZf) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2199/32074822204_bb55c2c414_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QSkRaW)WP_20170215_013 (https://flic.kr/p/QSkRaW) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 16, 2017, 03:08:12 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/7824fc588b5b1d33b0a3178cacbeda32.jpg)

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 16, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/7824fc588b5b1d33b0a3178cacbeda32.jpg)

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:salute:
You are wasted in that bank my friend - you should be a glamour photographer.  I love your work.  :salute:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 16, 2017, 03:16:35 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/7824fc588b5b1d33b0a3178cacbeda32.jpg)

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:salute:
You are wasted in that bank my friend - you should be a glamour photographer.  I love your work.  :salute:
Lol, I don't know about that, but I appreciate the compliment buddy :)

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 20, 2017, 12:02:52 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2373/32884466531_414d6e74ed_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S6TudT)WP_20170220_004 (https://flic.kr/p/S6TudT) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 22, 2017, 01:06:56 PM
Smallbacca showing Magnum PI and Stalin how strong she is:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2785/33008349076_aaa45fb716_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ShQqbQ)WP_20170222_008 (https://flic.kr/p/ShQqbQ) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 22, 2017, 05:38:43 PM
Nice :)

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 23, 2017, 11:10:17 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/732/32252256133_ecf1d18869_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R92f6B)WP_20170223_015 (https://flic.kr/p/R92f6B) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 24, 2017, 12:32:59 AM
Standing at attention :salute:

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on February 24, 2017, 09:59:43 AM
Standing at attention :salute:

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Half cocked.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on February 24, 2017, 05:27:44 PM
Standing at attention :salute:

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Half cocked.
Yeah that's more accurate ;)

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 03, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
Caught the Toughtool trying to eat my beloved SI  :facepalm:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/694/32839640250_a53c19aac5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S2VJVY)WP_20170303_004 (https://flic.kr/p/S2VJVY) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on March 03, 2017, 02:45:02 PM
Caught the Toughtool trying to eat my beloved SI  :facepalm:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/694/32839640250_a53c19aac5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S2VJVY)WP_20170303_004 (https://flic.kr/p/S2VJVY) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
They're bad like that....you gotta watch those TTs. 

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 06, 2017, 02:57:44 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2943/32469966103_4430842462_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Rtg4FM)WP_20170306_022 (https://flic.kr/p/Rtg4FM) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 09, 2017, 11:16:15 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3674/33338315595_66c9f79804_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SMZzJK)WP_20170309_013 (https://flic.kr/p/SMZzJK) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on March 09, 2017, 04:54:42 PM
I should've carried mine for TBT.....

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 22, 2017, 02:35:33 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3782/32743411944_46b9352257_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RTqxBf)WP_20170322_005 (https://flic.kr/p/RTqxBf) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 24, 2017, 06:46:19 AM
More pics incoming, but here it is!  :mail:

(http://i.imgur.com/CEodQXC.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 24, 2017, 09:43:38 AM
More pics incoming, but here it is!  :mail:

(http://i.imgur.com/CEodQXC.jpg?1)
Sweeeeeeet!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 24, 2017, 10:06:11 AM
Smallbacca showing Magnum PI and Stalin how strong she is:

:salute:
You are wasted in that bank my friend - you should be a glamour photographer.  I love your work.  :salute:

What kind of bank is that?  :think:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 24, 2017, 10:21:16 AM
Smallbacca showing Magnum PI and Stalin how strong she is:

:salute:
You are wasted in that bank my friend - you should be a glamour photographer.  I love your work.  :salute:

What kind of bank is that?  :think:
Sperm Bank.  :D
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 24, 2017, 01:20:35 PM
Mine is Series 1.
Is there a "best" series, or is it just cosmetic?
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 24, 2017, 01:52:24 PM
Mine is Series 1.
Is there a "best" series, or is it just cosmetic?
I think as long as it's US made, you're good.

There's some info here: http://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=ST1+Tough+Tool
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 24, 2017, 02:18:15 PM
I guess the pliers are just cosmetically different, as well as every version having different tool load-outs. Meh. I'm happy with what I got. It's amazingly solid, yet smooth. Top notch quality.

That hole is funny though. "Let's hang a picture of the tool on the wall, throw a dart at it, and make a lanyard hole wherever it lands."  :rofl:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 24, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
I guess the pliers are just cosmetically different, as well as every version having different tool load-outs. Meh. I'm happy with what I got. It's amazingly solid, yet smooth. Top notch quality.

That hole is funny though. "Let's hang a picture of the tool on the wall, throw a dart at it, and make a lanyard hole wherever it lands."  :rofl:
It's random isn't it?  :D
Did you get the leather pouch with yours? It's a lovely thing.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 24, 2017, 02:36:44 PM
No, just the nylon one. But it's brand new. That leather one, though. :drool:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on March 24, 2017, 07:49:24 PM
Smallbacca showing Magnum PI and Stalin how strong she is:

:salute:
You are wasted in that bank my friend - you should be a glamour photographer.  I love your work.  :salute:

What kind of bank is that?  :think:
Sperm Bank.  :D
:facepalm:

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Monrogue on March 24, 2017, 07:50:32 PM
Welcome to the club ReamerPunch :cheers:

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Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 30, 2017, 11:08:55 AM
I'll just post these threads on the ST1 for reference.

Schrade ST1 variations (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=4767.0)
Schrade Tough Tool ST1 and Coleman Pro Lock (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=11546.0)
Taylor Brands Schrade ST1 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,3765.30.html)
Original Schrade Tough Tool - pic heavy!  (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,40144.30.html)
Schrade St1 Made in USA vs New model (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=12252.5%3bwap)
Schrade ST1 Review on Multitool.org (http://www.multitool.org/tools/miscellaneous/schrade-st1-review)
Schrade Tough Tool Review (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=8109.0)
ST1 Tough Tool entry in Multi-Tool Encyclopedia (http://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=ST1+Tough+Tool)

I found this post in the third thread.

I found this patent information on Google Patents. Here's a link to the Schrade Tough Tool patent (http://www.google.com/patents?id=qUkFAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4).

So anyhow, about that hole.......


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Schradehole.jpg)

The patent text reads:
One use of tool 10 to clamp items like a vise is shown in FIG. 7. A multi-strand cable 106 is clamped in jaws 18 and 20 with tool 10 in a semi-closed state. An aperture 108 is preferably formed through web 68 of handle 24 and is adapted to receive, when desired, a lanyard 110. Lanyard 110 provides a convenient way to carry tool 10 on a belt or back-pack. It also allows tool 10 to clamp cable 106, or other desired item, by closing tool 10 with cable 106 between the jaws 18 and 20 of pliers 12, and by wrapping lanyard 110 tightly around handles 22 and 24. Tool 10 will continue to clamp cable 106 without the necessity of gripping the pliers in one's hands. As noted above, this advantage is due to the storing of gripping end 14 externally of the handles when tool 10 is closed.

Clear as mud, right? :D
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 30, 2017, 11:46:57 AM
Great info Reamer-Puzzle  :salute:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 30, 2017, 11:56:53 AM
No wonder they collaborated with Vise Grip.  :D
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 30, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
There's nothing like a bit of real-world application, so.........
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2850/32892527784_162129b7d0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S7ANy1)WP_20170330_021 (https://flic.kr/p/S7ANy1) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on March 30, 2017, 12:53:32 PM
There's nothing like a bit of real-world application, so.........

So it appears that any old MT can be made into locking pliers with a bit of smart usage of paracord ?   :pok:   :tu:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 30, 2017, 12:56:52 PM
There's nothing like a bit of real-world application, so.........

So it appears that any old MT can be made into locking pliers with a bit of smart usage of paracord ?   :pok:   :tu:

I guess I won't be needing a Crunch.  :tu: I'll just drill a hole in my Rebar.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: magentus on March 30, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
There's nothing like a bit of real-world application, so.........

So it appears that any old MT can be made into locking pliers with a bit of smart usage of paracord ?   :pok:   :tu:

I guess I won't be needing a Crunch.  :tu: I'll just drill a hole in my Rebar.
:rofl:

and

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on March 13, 2018, 08:43:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DN75UAj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/givazH7.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on April 02, 2018, 08:27:01 PM
Someone else with problems with ST1 factory oil?

(https://i.imgur.com/2jItRcd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/arbaSq9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tadfhKJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on April 04, 2018, 07:40:28 AM
Someone else with problems with ST1 factory oil?

Yep, the oil Schrade used turns a bit gummy and sticky after a decade or two.  That ST1 has the less common CE knife blade with very fine serrations (later ones had coarse serrations).  And those thick leather sheaths look capable of fending off some heavy duty punishment.   :tu:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on April 04, 2018, 10:11:22 AM
Hey, thanks for your information.

I like the fine serrations and the leather sheaths too  :tu:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on April 05, 2018, 04:12:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lQukPMd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lLnfBa3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VXuWVwI.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: armi101 on April 13, 2018, 06:09:52 AM
So after reading the reviews, i tried to find a old usa schrade tool, but to no avail. SO i picked up a new toughtool. Fully expecting a taylor brands model......it wasnt. The packaging says BTI. So after some google detective, Battenfield techologies bought taylor brands and schrade. I currently am quite impressed with out of the box quality. Very Little handle flex, everything locks up nice, tools are sharp, etc. Im going to put it in my tool bag for use, so we can see how it holds up to some abuse.

But right now, i dont think it will have any issues. Has anyone else had the same experience.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on April 13, 2018, 06:34:33 AM
Battenfield techologies bought taylor brands and schrade.

Maybe the quality will improve. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ReamerPunch on April 13, 2018, 06:35:13 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lQukPMd.jpg)

That's so beautiful. I love it.  :dd:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on April 13, 2018, 07:39:35 PM
So after reading the reviews, i tried to find a old usa schrade tool, but to no avail. SO i picked up a new toughtool. Fully expecting a taylor brands model......it wasnt. The packaging says BTI. So after some google detective, Battenfield techologies bought taylor brands and schrade. I currently am quite impressed with out of the box quality. Very Little handle flex, everything locks up nice, tools are sharp, etc. Im going to put it in my tool bag for use, so we can see how it holds up to some abuse.

But right now, i dont think it will have any issues. Has anyone else had the same experience.

Cool, maybe you can post your experience here!

(https://i.imgur.com/lQukPMd.jpg)

That's so beautiful. I love it.  :dd:

Thanks 👍
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: armi101 on April 14, 2018, 03:48:05 AM
Update:
 The handles are quite stiff to open out of the box but it used torx screws, so I adjusted it today and its much better. Not much abuse today, I used the saw on some drywall and removed 1 philips screw. Both the saw and philips worked well. No issues.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on June 25, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CrtLOTx.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 28, 2018, 06:53:05 AM
Nice Tough Tool, CeHo! :like:

One day, when I finish all the challenges I am in, I will be EDC'in these babies(light usage though). :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on June 28, 2018, 08:22:35 AM
Thanks  :tu: nice stuff too
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 29, 2018, 01:52:18 AM
Thank you, Ceho! :cheers:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Boonies on June 29, 2018, 03:03:07 AM
Thought you guys might enjoy seeing one of these, it’s a little different from the other two that I have (1-USA, 1-Taylor) in that it has scissors.  Wonder who will handle the lifetime warranty to Australia now that Taylor has been sold....... :cheers:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 29, 2018, 03:51:26 AM
Nice one, Boonies. :cheers:

Is that the same as the black-finish st1 in the US with Green writing?
Pic with toolset attached.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Boonies on June 29, 2018, 04:14:05 AM
Thanks, I’m guessing it’s the same.  Here is the toolset fanned out...... :cheers:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 29, 2018, 05:14:17 AM
Very cool. Thank you. The Australian Defense Force makes it more tactical.   :mn:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Boonies on June 29, 2018, 06:15:42 AM
From what I understand, these didn’t prove that popular with the soldiers of the ADF.  But it does have a lifetime warranty so if you break it, get a new one.  😛  Not sure that’s a good plan when you might really need it.....
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gregozedobe on June 29, 2018, 11:22:49 AM
Very cool. Thank you. The Australian Defense Force makes it more tactical.   :mn:

Defintely much more tactical, but unfortunately still not at all "tough"  ;)   :'(

My suggestion is to add it to the shelf queen shelf before you hurt yourself trying it on anything hard.  These tools do not have a very good reputation (things went downhill fast once Taylor took over the Schrade brand).
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Boonies on June 29, 2018, 07:58:22 PM
Yes, this one will be a shelf queen unless we have a complete zombie takeover and then I will have to use it to defend myself.   :rofl: :rofl:   Does the lifetime warranty still apply if I break it under those circumstances?   :whistle:     :facepalm:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 30, 2018, 05:47:14 AM
I completely agree that the Taylor TTs are pretty bad compared to the OG Schrade TTs. But, if someone asks me what is a good <$20 MT, I would throw the Taylor TT in the list as an option for NON-Heavy-Duty tasks. It would be fine for general work or fishing..IMO of course.
The stainless version, without scissors, is a better tool. Mainly, because the black Taylor TT paint comes off quite easily and the scissors are not good at all.

If anyone likes the Taylor TT, then I highly recommend spending the money for an OG Schrade TT, if you don't have one of course.

My biggest gripe on the Taylor TT is the handle splay. So unnecessary for the splay to be so wide. An easy fix, but who has the time?. ::)

Edit: I am not sure how the brand transfer will affect warranty, but lets hope the transfer effect isn't negative. The TT seems to be popular and I think it would be wise to keep developing and supporting the product. IMO
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 16, 2018, 10:26:53 PM
I just picked up a Craftsman 45471 off of the 'Bay... and I'm really not that sold on it. This is the re-branded Schrade ST5E, with the slip-joint jaws. I got it in, cleaned it up, lubricated it, replaced the missing bits and bit driver adapter with parts from a hardware store multi-bit screwdriver... and... well... I'm left wondering "WHY??" on the adjustable jaws. The slip joint allows them to open infinitesimally larger than the regular pivot. They go from just barely able to grip a garden hose end to ever so slightly better, but still barely, able to grip a garden hose end.

I find the tool remarkably heavy, remarkably wide, and the tool is very awkward to hold when using anything except the pliers.

The locking mechanism is really neat, though I wish all blades had it. Everything is ridiculously sharp, which is good. File is nicely aggressive, and there is an awesome scraper blade that works really well on gaskets. But overall I'm just not impressed. I waited and scoured eBay for one of these - nice or not - because I need a multi tool capable of removing stuck garden hoses. I don't like having to carry a MT and a pair of channel locks. Two sheaths is weird, and neither the MT nor the channel locks feel good carried in a pocket.

I'm still on the hunt for something suitable. Maybe the Crunch. I think I may end up selling this in the classified section. Hoping I can get back what I've got in it... :/

Charles.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Yadda on July 25, 2018, 05:44:35 AM
I joined recently.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on July 25, 2018, 08:53:20 AM
 :like:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 25, 2018, 06:33:10 PM
Welcome to the Tough Tool Club, Yadda! :cheers:

I purchased the ST5E from Charles and received it today. Couldn't be happier. The ST5E is HUGE compared to the OG Tough Tools. :ahhh

Here it is with two U.S.A Tough Tools and two Taylor Brand Tough Tools
The ST5E is branded "Craftsman", but it is a U.S.A. Tough Tool by Schrade :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Yadda on July 26, 2018, 03:01:33 AM
Thanks! I have a second coming with the multiple patent numbers. I also have a Craftsman model.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 26, 2018, 03:06:33 AM
 :salute:

Which Craftsman model do you have? I like the stuff branded Craftsman a little more than Schrade, although I still like Schrade stuff. Thr Bear & Son stuff branded Craftsman is great too.  :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Yadda on July 26, 2018, 03:09:01 AM
:salute:

Which Craftsman model do you have? I like the stuff branded Craftsman a little more than Schrade, although I still like Schrade stuff. Thr Bear & Son stuff branded Craftsman is great too.  :)

I have several, Bear and Schrade.  I'll try to get a photo.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 26, 2018, 03:14:47 AM
That's the Craftsman 45471, which is a re-branded Schrade ST5E.

Charles.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 26, 2018, 03:15:50 AM
Awesome, Yadda! :cheers:

Thank you, Charles! I keep forgetting the Craftsman designation. :salute:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Yadda on July 31, 2018, 06:11:08 AM
My Craftsman tools.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Yadda on July 31, 2018, 06:12:26 AM
My recently acquired Schrade Tough Tools.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 31, 2018, 06:57:01 AM
Very nice Tough Tools, Yadda! :like:

Glad you got the Craftsman version of the ST5E while they're still affordable! The ST5E has gotten absurd. :ahhh

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 31, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
A little Schrade Parade. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/ty4WHO0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L1YQSCK.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 31, 2018, 08:25:03 PM
Hey Alex, bottom picture, top center tool. That's a Schrade? It looks like the Outu I have. Are the drivers well-formed? They're just "okay" on my Outu. If the drivers are good I might look for the Schrade version. I like the Outu version of the tool, I've stowed it in my first aid kit because of the awesome scissors. They go right through denim, so I figured it would be a good thing to have in a first aid kit. I've been fixing drywall over the weekend, and find they also cut metal-reinforced joint tape really easily. Only thing I had in the house that does. Garden shears mangle it and regular scissors don't have the umph.

Charles.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 31, 2018, 08:36:27 PM
Hey Alex, bottom picture, top center tool. That's a Schrade? It looks like the Outu I have. Are the drivers well-formed? They're just "okay" on my Outu. If the drivers are good I might look for the Schrade version. I like the Outu version of the tool, I've stowed it in my first aid kit because of the awesome scissors. They go right through denim, so I figured it would be a good thing to have in a first aid kit. I've been fixing drywall over the weekend, and find they also cut metal-reinforced joint tape really easily. Only thing I had in the house that does. Garden shears mangle it and regular scissors don't have the umph.

Charles.
It is the "Schrade Tough Tool ST11" and it is identical to the Outo in every way. It just costs $5-$10 more. :facepalm:
The Schrade version came with a great sheath though(even though the tool has a clip). Don't know if the Outo comes with one. :think:
The one I have was ink stamped "Schrade" in green on one handle. The ink was there when I put it away a few months ago. Took it out of the sheath and the green ink was a little pile of green dust. So now the only marking is a laser etched "ST11" on the pliers. :ahhh

And you ain't kidding. Those scissors are really really good. Surprisingly good. I cut a bunch of cardboard for a test and then cut some fine thread. Worked perfectly. The screw pivot is a nice touch too, in case you have to tighten/fix the scissors. :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 31, 2018, 09:21:21 PM
Hey Alex, bottom picture, top center tool. That's a Schrade? It looks like the Outu I have. Are the drivers well-formed? They're just "okay" on my Outu. If the drivers are good I might look for the Schrade version. I like the Outu version of the tool, I've stowed it in my first aid kit because of the awesome scissors. They go right through denim, so I figured it would be a good thing to have in a first aid kit. I've been fixing drywall over the weekend, and find they also cut metal-reinforced joint tape really easily. Only thing I had in the house that does. Garden shears mangle it and regular scissors don't have the umph.

Charles.
It is the "Schrade Tough Tool ST11" and it is identical to the Outo in every way. It just costs $5-$10 more. :facepalm:
The Schrade version came with a great sheath though(even though the tool has a clip). Don't know if the Outo comes with one. :think:
The one I have was ink stamped "Schrade" in green on one handle. The ink was there when I put it away a few months ago. Took it out of the sheath and the green ink was a little pile of green dust. So now the only marking is a laser etched "ST11" on the pliers. :ahhh

And you ain't kidding. Those scissors are really really good. Surprisingly good. I cut a bunch of cardboard for a test and then cut some fine thread. Worked perfectly. The screw pivot is a nice touch too, in case you have to tighten/fix the scissors. :)

The Outu comes with a sheath, but it was too large for the first aid kit, so I have it in my pile of "sheaths that I need to find a tool for", It's a nice hard nylon sheath!

So, I'll skip the Schrade and version... what about the Roxon version with the corkscrew and all the extra tools? It's a lot larger, but is it the same quality? (Do you know?)

Charles.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 31, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
I have not gotten the Roxon version yet, but 'Reamerpunch' did a good review of it.
Here is the thread for RP's review.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77845.msg1721181.html#msg1721181

It seems a little expensive for what it is. After getting the BoxTree tool 'Yadda' posted about for $12, I think the Roxon may be overpriced a bit. But, I'll get one at some point anyway. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 02, 2018, 03:38:49 AM
New in Box Dark Green Tough Chip. This thing is cool.  :multi:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 02, 2018, 04:34:37 AM
Oops. Forgot the pictures of it in the open position. :ahhh :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ThePeacent on August 02, 2018, 11:52:48 AM
This and the SOG Crosscut are the two scissors based tools I've always wanted to try out, but as usual they are rare to find  :rant:
Nice to see you have one too! (not that I doubted it  :D)

how are the tweezers and pull-out implements on those?  :think: Vic quality level?  ???
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 02, 2018, 02:40:59 PM
Thank you, TP! :cheers:

Tweezers and toothpick are about the same as Vic, but considering the size if the tool and original MSRP, they should be better. The ToughChip does have an outstanding set of scissors.   :tu:

The removable double-diamond-side file is a great touch for sure. :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 09, 2018, 07:59:58 AM
Just keeping this thread fresh.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/nTAYBqO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aP1m9LF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CKPi3VC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2R7ylc0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iTGWttO.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ThePeacent on August 09, 2018, 01:27:40 PM
Just keeping this thread fresh.  :)


minty fresh!!  :drool: :like:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 09, 2018, 05:26:35 PM
Just keeping this thread fresh.  :)


minty fresh!!  :drool: :like:
:like:

Try not to chew on a ToughTool. Not minty at all. :ahhh
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on December 09, 2018, 01:38:15 AM
February 1st-15th is the two week ToughTool challenge. U.S. and China made tools both welcome. :tu:

Picked this one up so I could use one of mine in the challenge.  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/Kos0VNs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uw55SpF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DdQmB0b.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Douglas on December 09, 2018, 06:25:18 AM
Looking forward to it G-Man.

(https://i.imgur.com/otOmC0fh.jpg)

Who else will join,
I wonder. :pok: :pok: :pok: :pok: :pok: :pok:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on December 09, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
Me too, Douglas! :cheers:

Anyone, with a ToughTool, that is brave will join us. :D
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Douglas on December 09, 2018, 10:55:44 PM
Me too, Douglas! :cheers:

Anyone, with a ToughTool, that is brave will join us. :D
Or just plain NUTS.  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
I didn't just say that out loud, did I... :whistle:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on December 10, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
I wouldn't go as far as to say nuts. Close, but not quite. :rofl:
The ToughTool has a strong following with some professional who need the pliers on the original ToughTool, which are some of the best pliers found on MTs.
The TT is one of the better antiquated design executions. But, that said, it is definitely different from most tools and will require some major adjustment.  :)

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: David on December 11, 2018, 02:10:01 AM
Me too, Douglas! :cheers:

Anyone, with a ToughTool, that is brave will join us. :D


Since its only a two week challenge I'm might consider it.   :think:     I've never done a challenge cause I cant stay with the subject for 30 days. To many toys to play with.    :D
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: Douglas on December 11, 2018, 02:29:46 AM
You would be most welcome David, :tu: would love to see this reach double digets.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on December 11, 2018, 02:56:19 AM
 :iagree:

That would be awesome, David. :like:

It should be fun and it would be one of a very few challenges done with tools that most of us don't actually use. It's one thing to do "challenges" with Spirits and Rebars, but using antiquated tools makes it an actual challenge. :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on December 12, 2018, 04:45:10 PM
Edit - oops wrong thread.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 02, 2019, 07:10:14 AM
Thanks to Mr. CeHo sending an awesome gift, a mint-condition V.1 USA TT was added and is a real beauty. Also added a riveted early China-made ToughTool. Nice transition from the late version cast-pliers USA TT to the China made TT.

(https://i.imgur.com/EVmwbIB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8XlE3HP.jpg)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: CeHo on May 02, 2019, 08:55:15 PM
 :cheers:

Nice set my friend 👍

Awesome  :multi:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 02, 2019, 09:15:01 PM
:cheers:

Nice set my friend 👍

Awesome  :multi:
Thank you, my friend! :cheers:
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 01, 2019, 08:59:40 AM
How does the Tough Chip compare to other shears-based multitools from leatherman, fiskars (the one similar to the MP600) and outu?  I’m liking the look of the toolset and especially the large tweezers. I’m looking for a scissors based multitool to put in a first aid kit. Something to cut bandages with... and something that could cut off denim or even leather would be great.

I have the outu and the fiskars tool. Both are neat but the touch chip looks like it may be the winner for a first aid kit.

Charles.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 02, 2019, 06:25:13 AM
Denim and Leather are a no-go for the Chip. IMO. :ahhh

Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 23, 2019, 05:51:42 AM
Do the schrade tough tools fit in the tough chip? Or are they completely different sizes?

Charles
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 23, 2019, 07:51:28 AM
Sorry to report they don't. The Chip is basically a keychain tool, maybe a bit bigger. The ToughTool is a mid-HD sized. The OG ToughTool competes with the original LM SuperTool.  :)
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 23, 2019, 03:06:41 PM
Okay. Was wanting to mod in a can opener but that’s not in the cards.

I just received my tough chip today and it’s in terrible shape.  Scissors look like they’ve been used to cut wire and metal, and the tab for the tools is bent so none of the tools lock, and they’re all loose. I’ll be sending it back :(

Charles.
Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 23, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
Sorry to read you got one from a tool-ignorant and/or unscrupulous seller. :-\

One of the reasons I started buying discontinued tools in "like new", or new without packaging, condition when possible for user tools. :facepalm:



Title: Re: Schrade tough owners club
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 05, 2019, 01:26:37 AM
Put together an imgur gallery with all tools compared on several versions of ToughTools.
Normally I'd have all the photos shown, but imgur is being a real PITA about it. :ahhh


http://imgur.com/gallery/8RtVStW