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Title: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 04:18:18 PM
Topic inspired by Rapidray  :hatsoff:

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 06, 2019, 04:19:13 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2019, 04:21:23 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2019, 04:23:06 PM
Topic inspired by Rapidray  :hatsoff:
Nice I like it.  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 04:24:15 PM
:rofl:

Yeah Ray
I saw your Orvis and raised ya a Hardy  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 05:00:21 PM
Maybe a Moderator could change the topic from Saks and Fly reels to Saks and Fishing reels, I like them awl! Vintage to modern :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2019, 05:04:58 PM
Maybe a Moderator could change the topic from Saks and Fly reels to Saks and Fishing reels, I like them awl! Vintage to modern :cheers:
I was thinking you need to leave it at fly reels and add fly tying to it. We could show the flys we have made and used. :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 05:22:00 PM
Maybe a Moderator could change the topic from Saks and Fly reels to Saks and Fishing reels, I like them awl! Vintage to modern :cheers:
I was thinking you need to leave it at fly reels and add fly tying to it. We could show the flys we have made and used. :dunno:

I like that too Ray  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 05:25:49 PM
Mod's
 If you can disregard my earlier request, and instead change it to Saks and Fly fishing

Rapidray would really appreciate it  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 06, 2019, 07:41:40 PM
What about " SAK's gone fishin' "?

That way, we can include awl sorts of nice fishing & SAK-related info.....or just pictures.
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 07:47:58 PM
What about " SAK's gone fishin' "?

That way, we can include awl sorts of nice fishing & SAK-related info.....or just pictures.

I like that too  :hatsoff:

Maybe a Moderator could surprise us  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2019, 09:39:52 PM
What about " SAK's gone fishin' "?

That way, we can include awl sorts of nice fishing & SAK-related info.....or just pictures.
Oh definitely... :like: :tu: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2019, 09:40:39 PM
Mod's
 If you can disregard my earlier request, and instead change it to Saks and Fly fishing

Rapidray would really appreciate it  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You can blame me!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 10:37:35 PM
Mod's
 If you can disregard my earlier request, and instead change it to Saks and Fly fishing

Rapidray would really appreciate it  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You can blame me!  :rofl:

I thought you'd like that  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 06, 2019, 10:44:00 PM
Thanks to SteveC for the title change, and Nix for the winner, and an honorable mention for Rapidray and his suggestion

Now let's see some stuff  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 06, 2019, 11:26:18 PM
Good timing starting this thread now!  :like:

I spliced on some Nanofil line to my Pflueger President spinning reel this afternoon. One-too-many birds' nests made some new line advisable. And I thought I'd try out this new Nanofil stuff.

I used a double nail knot to splice it on, but the knot is well buried on the reel. Re-attached a snap swivel, as well. I'm hoping to get some river time this week!

(https://i.imgur.com/2X4MrmE.jpg)



SAK scissors are so useful for these common fishing tasks! I love 'em.  :tu:

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 12:19:30 AM
 :like: nice Nix  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 01:19:36 AM
 :rofl:
Life is great! I like the new threat title!  :cheers: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 01:20:14 AM
Thanks to SteveC for the title change, and Nix for the winner, and an honorable mention for Rapidray and his suggestion

Now let's see some stuff  :popcorn:
:cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 01:23:39 AM
Good timing starting this thread now!  :like:

I spliced on some Nanofil line to my Pflueger President spinning reel this afternoon. One too many birds' nests made some new one advisable. And I thought I'd try out this new Nanofil stuff.

I used a double nail knot to splice it on, but the knot is well buried on the reel. Re-attached a snap swivel, as well. I'm hoping to get some river time this week!

(https://i.imgur.com/2X4MrmE.jpg)



SAK scissors are so useful for these common fishing tasks! I love 'em.  :tu:
Pflueger makes some great reels for sure...and my first fly reel was a Pflueger.  :cheers:
Agree on the sissors 110% :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 02:22:36 AM
I was curious to see that several of the Vic SAK's named for fishing don't have scissors!  :o  What were they thinking?

New Angler: no scissors
Angler Plus: no scissors
Deluxe Angler: has scissors
Bass Fishing: no scissors
Fisherman: has scissors
Fisherman Plus: has scissors
Master Fisherman: has scissors
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 02:30:13 AM
I think this would make a better "Angler":

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYsAAOSw-tlb3iP1/s-l1600.jpg)


This gives me an idea for a mod........
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 02:39:55 AM
Mod not needed after all; I just found this NIB "Fly Caster":

(https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/victorinox_56481_swiss_army_tinker_deluxe_1479421311000_1298052.jpg)


AKA: "Deluxe Tinker"

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 02:43:31 AM
I prefer the pliers to the fish scaler. The pliers can be used to remove hooks (like forceps), as well as crimp barbs when fishing barbless. Pliers might be useful for crimping split shot as well....haven't tried that.

I might prefer the corkscrew to the Philips, but that doesn't seem quite as important a point. Might be nice to have that little eyeglass screwdriver for tightening up the old polarized sunglass, though.

 :climber:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 03:57:06 AM
I think this would make a better "Angler":

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYsAAOSw-tlb3iP1/s-l1600.jpg)


This gives me an idea for a mod........
That is nice.  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 03:58:44 AM
Mod not needed after all; I just found this NIB "Fly Caster":

(https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/victorinox_56481_swiss_army_tinker_deluxe_1479421311000_1298052.jpg)


AKA: "Deluxe Tinker"
I was thinking those pliers are the way to go...built in crimpers  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 04:05:18 AM
Have you seen the Damascus Deluxe Tinker....very nice, and a pretty penny!
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 04:23:18 AM
I'd hate to drop that in the river.......  :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 04:31:22 AM
I'd hate to drop that in the river.......  :rofl:
For that one, I would be right behind it!
I don’t understand why the angler doesn’t come with sissors. Or a scaler for that matter.
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 04:33:25 AM
 :dunno:

Seems odd, I agree.

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 04:37:07 AM
There is a lot to like about the Deluxe Angler, but it's a 5-layer SAK, which seems a bit big.

(https://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3066&scalesize=0&nocount=y)



And it is discontinued.  :(

Even at 5-layers....it would be smaller than the Swiss Champ.

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 05:00:58 AM
That one would be a target of opportunity then...come across it by accident and buy it!  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 05:06:34 AM
I don't really need the fish scaler....handy as it might be for somethings. So, if I see one, I'll let ya know.....   :pok:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 02:36:21 PM
Down here where we need a scaler. Bass and pan fish abound down here, so it would be handy! Most of the trout here are at grocery stores  :whistle:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 03:00:58 PM
For me, I want a blade and scissors, the Vic pliers are new to me and will see use, the hook remover will also see use for the aggressive feeders that get hooked deep, the scaler will probably never see it's intended use
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 03:01:42 PM
Yep.... :iagree:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 03:02:21 PM
I don't scale Perch, just fillet them.  :drool:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 03:03:31 PM
There is a lot to like about the Deluxe Angler, but it's a 5-layer SAK, which seems a bit big.

(https://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3066&scalesize=0&nocount=y)



And it is discontinued.  :(

Even at 5-layers....it would be smaller than the Swiss Champ.

I like the inlay on the scale, but nothing else really sets it apart  :think:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 03:05:54 PM
Not really, no. But the toolset could be considered to be fishing oriented.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 03:07:50 PM
I don't scale Perch, just fillet them.  :drool:

Exactly, you can't beat perch for a shore lunch, and they're so easy to lift a couple of skinless fillets off of  :drool:  :drool:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 03:08:43 PM
Not really, no. But the toolset could be considered to be fishing oriented.   :dunno:

Most definitely  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 03:12:24 PM
Down here where we need a scaler. Bass and pan fish abound down here, so it would be handy! Most of the trout here are at grocery stores  :whistle:

Trout are plentiful here. but I never really cared for the taste myself
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 04:01:07 PM
I have a fun story involving a Recruit
It was the mid 90's and recreational shark fishing was becoming popular around here, with a number of sponsored derbies taking place.
One in particular was being heavily promoted by a local radio station, and they were going to be set up for the weigh in on the Halifax waterfront, so I decided to take it in with my young family.
Here's where it becomes a SAK fishing story.
The radio host announces a giveaway, the first person to come to the booth with a fishing related item wins a prize, there was a large crowd but no takers and the Dj kept asking, my oldest daughter who was around 9 at the time said "Dad we use your pocket knife when we fish can I take it up" so off she goes with my Recruit, the Dj made a big deal about the "young lady with the Swiss Army knife" and she won a set of lawn darts, the good ones with the sharpened steel tips, but I digress.
Back to the story, after a few songs the Host puts out another call for a prize and again no one comes forward, this time daughter# 2 asks for the Recruit, off she goes and the Dj takes note of the knife and gave her a T-shirt.
I thought it would end there, but no, another call for a prize and this time I handed the Recruit to a youngster standing nearby and off he goes, returns my knife and thanked me, this kept going with a new kid approaching me every time a giveaway was announced, with the Dj making comments about the Swiss Army knife.
After about a dozen giveaways all attributed to the Recruit, the Dj announced that the " little red knife would no longer count" and he would like to meet the real owner. So I went up and we both had a chuckle and we were both surprised that the knife always found its way back to me in the crowd.
Thanks for reading and here's a pic of that Recruit that had it's 15 minutes of fame  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 04:06:30 PM
I like the ruler on the scaler, when in doubt you can measure to see if it’s of legal length.  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 04:07:42 PM
I have a fun story involving a Recruit
It was the mid 90's and recreational shark fishing was becoming popular around here, with a number of sponsored derbies taking place.
One in particular was being heavily promoted by a local radio station, and they were going to be set up for the weigh in on the Halifax waterfront, so I decided to take it in with my young family.
Here's where it becomes a SAK fishing story.
The radio host announces a giveaway, the first person to come to the booth with a fishing related item wins a prize, there was a large crowd but no takers and the Dj kept asking, my oldest daughter who was around 9 at the time said "Dad we use your pocket knife when we fish can I take it up" so off she goes with my Recruit, the Dj made a big deal about the "young lady with the Swiss Army knife" and she won a set of lawn darts, the good ones with the sharpened steel tips, but I digress.
Back to the story, after a few songs the Host puts out another call for a prize and again no one comes forward, this time daughter# 2 asks for the Recruit, off she goes and the Dj takes note of the knife and gave her a T-shirt.
I thought it would end there, but no, another call for a prize and this time I handed the Recruit to a youngster standing nearby and off he goes, returns my knife and thanked me, this kept going with a new kid approaching me every time a giveaway was announced, with the Dj making comments about the Swiss Army knife.
After about a dozen giveaways all attributed to the Recruit, the Dj announced that the " little red knife would no longer count" and he would like to meet the real owner. So I went up and we both had a chuckle and we were both surprised that the knife always found its way back to me in the crowd.
Thanks for reading and here's a pic of that Recruit that had it's 15 minutes of fame  :cheers:
:rofl:
I  :like: it.  :tu:
Nice photo of the vice!
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 04:24:22 PM
I like the ruler on the scaler, when in doubt you can measure to see if it’s of legal length.  :tu:

 :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 04:25:33 PM
Thanks Ray :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 07, 2019, 05:42:23 PM
Great story, Greg.  :like:

Ahhhh, the power of SAK!   :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 08:59:04 PM
Thanks Ray :cheers:
:cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 08:59:25 PM
Great story, Greg.  :like:

Ahhhh, the power of SAK!   :rofl:
:iagree: :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 07, 2019, 10:28:09 PM
Great story, Greg.  :like:

Ahhhh, the power of SAK!   :rofl:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: _MattGyver_ on January 08, 2019, 04:34:24 AM
I like this thread, makes me want to get a fishing license now lol :popcorn: :nothingtoadd:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Douglas on January 08, 2019, 05:09:45 AM
Great Story Greg.   :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 08, 2019, 05:47:44 AM
I like this thread, makes me want to get a fishing license now lol :popcorn: :nothingtoadd:
And a new reel, rod, fly tying equipment and material... :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 08, 2019, 05:31:31 PM
I like this thread, makes me want to get a fishing license now lol :popcorn: :nothingtoadd:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 08, 2019, 05:31:57 PM
I like this thread, makes me want to get a fishing license now lol :popcorn: :nothingtoadd:
And a new reel, rod, fly tying equipment and material... :like:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 08, 2019, 05:32:46 PM
Great Story Greg.   :hatsoff:

Thanks Douglas  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Aligator on January 09, 2019, 09:17:06 PM
Victorinox angler and a reel segarra 51
(https://fotos.miarroba.com/fo/b703/2B5AAEA00C1D5A269D8F2E5A269836.jpg)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 09, 2019, 09:30:45 PM
Love it!   :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 09, 2019, 10:36:54 PM
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 09, 2019, 10:55:28 PM
Oh yeah! That works... :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 10, 2019, 11:12:48 PM
Went out today...didn’t catch anything but was still a great day!
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 10, 2019, 11:14:37 PM
 :like: any day regardless of outcome is a great day
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 10, 2019, 11:16:33 PM
:like: any day regardless of outcome is a great day
Oh I agree  :tu: :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 10, 2019, 11:18:51 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 12, 2019, 04:05:24 AM
Tough day fishing today, but in a nice spot.

(https://i.imgur.com/FHoAPzV.jpg)

 

I was using a new line (Nanofill) and it caused me all sorts of headaches. I'll be replacing this line immediately.

What I won't be changing out too quickly is the Swiss Champ. The Champ did outstanding work changing out lures and cutting tangled line; the pliers came in handy to loosen a tricky swivel-snap. Great job all-around. The Champ rode comfortably in my pocket. The clip and lanyard allowed my to retrieve the Champ easily, even though I was wearing gloves.

(https://i.imgur.com/G6iMFd2.jpg)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 12, 2019, 04:24:52 AM
Tough day fishing today, but in a nice spot.

(https://i.imgur.com/FHoAPzV.jpg)

 

I was using a new line (Nanofill) and it caused me all sorts of headaches. I'll be replacing this line immediately.

What I won't be changing out too quickly is the Swiss Champ. The Champ did outstanding work changing out lures and cutting tangled line; the pliers came in handy to loosen a tricky swivel-snap. Great job all-around. The Champ rode comfortably in my pocket. The clip and lanyard allowed my to retrieve the Champ easily, even though I was wearing gloves.

(https://i.imgur.com/G6iMFd2.jpg)
Do you think it is the reel...seems odd you are having trouble with brand new line...on another note...that is some beautiful country you live in!  :cheers: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 12, 2019, 05:07:12 AM
I think the reel is fine..... At least it seems so.

No, the Nanofill line is really thin....which should be nice. It's strong for size....in theory. But I found that it did not take much to shear it.

It cast well, but a few times it developed a "bird's nest" with what seemed to be a fine cast. I think it just ran off the spool too quickly. And it had some memory issues, holding a coiled shaped after being cast. I think that contributed to the tangling issue. 

At one point--no idea how this happened--the line got stuck under the line-keeper on the side of the reel. When I made a cast, the keeper just cut the line!  Lure and line went sailing off into the distance........ :facepalm:

I've never had that happen with regular monofilament.

It may be the case that this line isn't well suited for this reel. I don't know. But I do know I'm getting rid of it tomorrow. Probably go with a braided line.

Days like today make one appreciate fly fishing and its simplicity.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 12, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Beautiful Nix, I was thinking of trying Nanofil, but will probably use your experience as a money saver, I like braids but I always go back to mono.
I am curious though how the Vic scissors will handle braid, I don't have any here to try
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 12, 2019, 04:07:14 PM
I think the reel is fine..... At least it seems so.

No, the Nanofill line is really thin....which should be nice. It's strong for size....in theory. But I found that it did not take much to shear it.

It cast well, but a few times it developed a "bird's nest" with what seemed to be a fine cast. I think it just ran off the spool too quickly. And it had some memory issues, holding a coiled shaped after being cast. I think that contributed to the tangling issue. 

At one point--no idea how this happened--the line got stuck under the line-keeper on the side of the reel. When I made a cast, the keeper just cut the line!  Lure and line went sailing off into the distance........ :facepalm:

I've never had that happen with regular monofilament.

It may be the case that this line isn't well suited for this reel. I don't know. But I do know I'm getting rid of it tomorrow. Probably go with a braided line.

Days like today make one appreciate fly fishing and its simplicity.  :cheers:
:sa:
that must of been kinda funny seeing the lure and line keep on going! And like you, I have never seen that before.  :dwts:
 :iagree: 110% on the fly fishing simplicity.
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 12, 2019, 04:08:06 PM
Beautiful Nix, I was thinking of trying Nanofil, but will probably use your experience as a money saver, I like braids but I always go back to mono.
I am curious though how the Vic scissors will handle braid, I don't have any here to try
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 12, 2019, 04:38:33 PM
Beautiful Nix, I was thinking of trying Nanofil, but will probably use your experience as a money saver, I like braids but I always go back to mono.
I am curious though how the Vic scissors will handle braid, I don't have any here to try

Same, here. I like to try new things, but have to chalk this one up as a fail. I'm genuinely surprised. Maybe it was just me--I have more experience with fly fishing. 'Though....I'm not a very good caster. Not for distance anyway.

This bit of water was pretty deep and fast. Hard to tell from the photo, but the river (Missouri) here is probably.....mmmmm....60-70 yards across. The trout at this time of year tend to be out in the deeper stuff.  So one needs to get our 20-30 yards. I can't come close to that with a standard fly rod. So.....spinning outfit. 

Ray asked about top water feeding, but here the trout are deep. (Some Walleye and Ling cod (I've heard) up closer to the dam.) There were a few midges hatching near the banks, but the trout were staying well down.

I've fished this spot with a fly rod from a boat in summer, but even then I always do better with big heavy flies that sink well. The bottom, especially up near the dam, is very rocky, providing good holding spots for some big fish. Real predators.  So streamers often work well.  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 12, 2019, 06:00:29 PM
Beautiful Nix, I was thinking of trying Nanofil, but will probably use your experience as a money saver, I like braids but I always go back to mono.
I am curious though how the Vic scissors will handle braid, I don't have any here to try

Same, here. I like to try new things, but have to chalk this one up as a fail. I'm genuinely surprised. Maybe it was just me--I have more experience with fly fishing. 'Though....I'm not a very good caster. Not for distance anyway.

This bit of water was pretty deep and fast. Hard to tell from the photo, but the river (Missouri) here is probably.....mmmmm....60-70 yards across. The trout at this time of year tend to be out in the deeper stuff.  So one needs to get our 20-30 yards. I can't come close to that with a standard fly rod. So.....spinning outfit. 

Ray asked about top water feeding, but here the trout are deep. (Some Walleye and Ling cod (I've heard) up closer to the dam.) There were a few midges hatching near the banks, but the trout were staying well down.

I've fished this spot with a fly rod from a boat in summer, but even then I always do better with big heavy flies that sink well. The bottom, especially up near the dam, is very rocky, providing good holding spots for some big fish. Real predators.  So streamers often work well.  :tu:
You have a dam near by...have you tried there? I have heard they like the water there as it is a little warmer...at least thats what I have heard.  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 12, 2019, 06:06:13 PM
We have a couple of dams nearby. And below the dams the water is usually open and a bit warmer. Always good spots to fish. But.....sometimes more crowded.

We were down stream from the dam and the water looked pretty good. And I have caught fish there before........
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 12, 2019, 09:34:33 PM
Fresh spool of mono....

(https://i.imgur.com/nvlP50j.jpg)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 01:48:14 AM
 :like: do you always fill the spool that much? I used to but don't anymore, I was getting lots of tangles, and was told to keep it 1/4 inch from the rim, no more tangles  :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 02:03:12 AM
We have a couple of dams nearby. And below the dams the water is usually open and a bit warmer. Always good spots to fish. But.....sometimes more crowded.

We were down stream from the dam and the water looked pretty good. And I have caught fish there before........
:tu: :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 02:04:15 AM
Fresh spool of mono....

(https://i.imgur.com/nvlP50j.jpg)
Looks great! Hopefully a test report tomorrow!   :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 03:02:54 AM
:like: do you always fill the spool that much? I used to but don't anymore, I was getting lots of tangles, and was told to keep it 1/4 inch from the rim, no more tangles  :dunno:

It's not as full as it looks. The line is spooled up to within....3/16" of the rim. Actually, I think that gold-colored rim is an indicator for a "max" fill point. At least that's the way I use it..... :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 03:03:42 AM
Fresh spool of mono....

(https://i.imgur.com/nvlP50j.jpg)
Looks great! Hopefully a test report tomorrow!   :like: :tu:

Probably next week. Fingers crossed.  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 02:21:45 PM
:like: do you always fill the spool that much? I used to but don't anymore, I was getting lots of tangles, and was told to keep it 1/4 inch from the rim, no more tangles  :dunno:

It's not as full as it looks. The line is spooled up to within....3/16" of the rim. Actually, I think that gold-colored rim is an indicator for a "max" fill point. At least that's the way I use it..... :rofl:

 :like:  I hope I didn't come across as a know it all Nix, I had second thoughts after I posted and read it
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 03:31:14 PM
Fresh spool of mono....

(https://i.imgur.com/nvlP50j.jpg)
Looks great! Hopefully a test report tomorrow!   :like: :tu:

Probably next week. Fingers crossed.  :tu:
We can wait!  :tu: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 03:39:47 PM
:like:  I hope I didn't come across as a know it all Nix, I had second thoughts after I posted and read it


Not at all, buddy.  :D  :cheers:

Good eye and sound advice! And I need all the help I can get.....  :rofl:

Your point was an excellent one, though. When putting line on a spool, "less is more". Within reason.

Too much line and one will end up with more tangles. Too little and that lip on the spool will put some drag on the line, slowing the cast and shortening the possible distance. That's my understanding, anyway.

My experience is the same as yours: an over-full spool has caused me tangling issues in the past.  I think this one is set up pretty well, but if I start having tangling issues, I'll strip some line off, to be sure.  :tu:

I'm eager to get out and test it. First, however, I'll hook my line tip to the truck and then walk down the street, pulling out 50 yards of line to give it a stretch--hopefully getting some of the coil memory out of the line. Then I'll reel myself in with a bit of tension. This should seat the line better and, hopefully, decrease possible tangling a bit more.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 03:51:32 PM
 :cheers: I've done the 50 yard walk many times  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 03:53:22 PM
I think it helps....  :dunno:

I have to wonder how many things we do because of superstition, and how many little tricks we use because they really work.  :think:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 03:54:12 PM
I was just wondering...which can be very dangerous...is fishing line temperature sensitive??? It is colder temperatures?? Just wondering  :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 04:03:17 PM
So I found this and I think you should try out that new line in summer time...and see how it acts then...
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 04:05:33 PM
I was just wondering...which can be very dangerous...is fishing line temperature sensitive??? It is colder temperatures?? Just wondering  :dunno:

My experience ice fishing is yes, Berkeley makes a mono specifically for this, and I find it stays more supple, that or I'm a marketing sucker  :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 04:06:49 PM
So I found this and I think you should try out that new line in summer time...and see how it acts then...

 :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 04:14:12 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 04:23:31 PM
So I found this and I think you should try out that new line in summer time...and see how it acts then...

I hadn't considered that, Ray. Perhaps the Nanofil might work better at temps over freezing? 

But.....in warm weather....it's pure fly fishing for me.   ;)  (Actually, I think I'm going to break out a fly rod and try a different section of the river here soon; it just hasn't been that cold this Winter!)

Wet wading in a mountain stream is a great way to cool off!  :D
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 04:40:32 PM
The Swisschamp played a small role in tying a simple mouse pattern, the Olive is deadly in low light or stained water
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 04:41:22 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 04:58:23 PM
So I found this and I think you should try out that new line in summer time...and see how it acts then...

I hadn't considered that, Ray. Perhaps the Nanofil might work better at temps over freezing? 

But.....in warm weather....it's pure fly fishing for me.   ;)  (Actually, I think I'm going to break out a fly rod and try a different section of the river here soon; it just hasn't been that cold this Winter!)

Wet wading in a mountain stream is a great way to cool off!  :D
I like that ideal!  :tu: :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 05:02:31 PM
The Swisschamp played a small role in tying a simple mouse pattern, the Olive is deadly in low light or stained water
:iagree:
And a nice tying area you have there!  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 05:05:51 PM
My tying desk is a huge mess.....  :facepalm:

(http://www.clker.com/cliparts/4/4/4/T/k/W/no-camera-allowed-hi.png)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 05:09:14 PM
My tying desk is a huge mess.....  :facepalm:

(http://www.clker.com/cliparts/4/4/4/T/k/W/no-camera-allowed-hi.png)
:rofl: :rofl:
That’s a good one!
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 05:14:56 PM
The Swisschamp played a small role in tying a simple mouse pattern, the Olive is deadly in low light or stained water
:iagree:
And a nice tying area you have there!  :like: :tu:

Thanks Ray
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 05:16:15 PM
My tying desk is a huge mess.....  :facepalm:

(http://www.clker.com/cliparts/4/4/4/T/k/W/no-camera-allowed-hi.png)

I have to keep it neat so I can see what the cat took  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 13, 2019, 05:37:23 PM
I left one of my materials boxes open once.

The Terrier thought that it would be great fun to play with my hackles.....  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 10:30:14 PM
The Swisschamp played a small role in tying a simple mouse pattern, the Olive is deadly in low light or stained water
:iagree:
And a nice tying area you have there!  :like: :tu:

Thanks Ray
:cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 10:31:12 PM
My tying desk is a huge mess.....  :facepalm:

(http://www.clker.com/cliparts/4/4/4/T/k/W/no-camera-allowed-hi.png)

I have to keep it neat so I can see what the cat took  :facepalm:
Those cats can be very resourceful  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 10:32:59 PM
I left one of my materials boxes open once.

The Terrier thought that it would be great fun to play with my hackles.....  :facepalm:
Oh no....I hope it was the $8.00 hackle and not the $32.00 hackle.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 14, 2019, 12:36:14 AM
I left one of my materials boxes open once.

The Terrier thought that it would be great fun to play with my hackles.....  :facepalm:
Oh no....I hope it was the $8.00 hackle and not the $32.00 hackle.  :facepalm:


Uhhhhh....just a sad end to this tale.......  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 14, 2019, 02:24:59 AM
I left one of my materials boxes open once.

The Terrier thought that it would be great fun to play with my hackles.....  :facepalm:
Oh no....I hope it was the $8.00 hackle and not the $32.00 hackle.  :facepalm:


Uhhhhh....just a sad end to this tale.......  :facepalm:
Oh boy, you must really love him!  :rofl:
Thats good!  :cheers: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 17, 2019, 03:35:13 AM
Good day out on the river. 

Access trail:

(https://i.imgur.com/GipZb4k.jpg)


Looking down:

(https://i.imgur.com/kao3XTY.jpg)



It was a cold day. The truck thermometer read 8ºF (-13ºC) when we pulled off the road to park. It did warm up a bit, but clearly stayed well below freezing.

(https://i.imgur.com/Zrlb5M7.jpg)


The rod and guides iced up all day long. This caused a lot of headaches....and cold fingers. I had to de-ice the guides every couple of casts. I was tempted to use my Swiss Champ's awl at one point, but didn't want to damage the inner surface of the guides. So I just used my fingers and a little hot breath.

The new (and stretched) 6# monofilament did very well overall. I don't think I was able to cast quite as far as I could with the Nanofill, but the mono seemed to be better behaved and tougher when lures got stuck on rocks (the Nanofill was 8# test, but seemed weaker in terms of shear strength and, maybe, knot strength.). I only lost one lure, and that was clearly lodged down deep in some rocks.

I did have a couple of bad tangles, but I think this was due to iced-up guides. I could hear the line grinding against ice in the guides. I think that in mid-cast the line would snag on some ice at the tip, suddenly slow, and then tangle down at the reel. Otherwise, the monofilament was working really well.

(https://i.imgur.com/uroJNFA.jpg)


Of the Swiss Champ's tool set I used:

-- Scissors: these got used to trim knots and cut out tangles. They saw the most action.
-- Pliers: these got used to de-barb hooks, remove hooks from fish, and, a couple of times, remove a hook from my gloves.
-- Toothpick: this got used to help pick apart a tangle in the line.
-- Main blade: used to open a snack bar for lunch.

The morning started off slowly, but I found the right combination of lure and retrieval speed in the afternoon. I lost count of the rainbows after the eighth was landed. These were modest trout by Missouri standards, measuring 10-14". Nice fish, though.

My fishing buddy hooked "the biggest trout I've ever seen" on a worm. He said it threw the hook as he tried to play it. Trout on the Missouri get pretty big, so I would have like to have seen that one.

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 17, 2019, 04:28:25 AM
Good day out on the river. 

Access trail:

(https://i.imgur.com/GipZb4k.jpg)


Looking down:

(https://i.imgur.com/kao3XTY.jpg)



It was a cold day. The truck thermometer read 8ºF (-13ºC) when we pulled off the road to park. It did warm up a bit, but clearly stayed well below freezing.

(https://i.imgur.com/Zrlb5M7.jpg)


The rod and guides iced up all day long. This caused a lot of headaches....and cold fingers. I had to de-ice the guides every couple of casts. I was tempted to use my Swiss Champ's awl at one point, but didn't want to damage the inner surface of the guides. So I just used my fingers and a little hot breath.

The new (and stretched) 6# monofilament did very well overall. I don't think I was able to cast quite as far as I could with the Nanofill, but the mono seemed to be better behaved and tougher when lures got stuck on rocks (the Nanofill was 8# test, but seemed weaker in terms of shear strength and, maybe, knot strength.). I only lost one lure, and that was clearly lodged down deep in some rocks.

I did have a couple of bad tangles, but I think this was due to iced-up guides. I could hear the line grinding against ice in the guides. I think that in mid-cast the line would snag on some ice at the tip, suddenly slow, and then tangle down at the reel. Otherwise, the monofilament was working really well.

(https://i.imgur.com/uroJNFA.jpg)


Of the Swiss Champ's tool set I used:

-- Scissors: these got used to trim knots and cut out tangles. They saw the most action.
-- Pliers: these got used to de-barb hooks, remove hooks from fish, and, a couple of times, remove a hook from my gloves.
-- Toothpick: this got used to help pick apart a tangle in the line.
-- Main blade: used to open a snack bar for lunch.

The morning started off slowly, but I found the right combination of lure and retrieval speed in the afternoon. I lost count of the rainbows after the eighth was landed. These were modest trout by Missouri standards, measuring 10-14". Nice fish, though.

My fishing buddy hooked "the biggest trout I've ever seen" on a worm. He said it threw the hook as he tried to play it. Trout on the Missouri get pretty big, so I would have like to have seen that one.
Wow...beautiful photo’s and love that frozen guide tip! I am glad you decided against using the awl! Whew! Nice to hear you are back on a catching streak.  :tu: :cheers: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 17, 2019, 07:01:33 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 17, 2019, 03:03:28 PM
Great account Nix, you're making me eager for our open water season, our ice is kind of sketchy so I'm staying off it, keep sharing  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 17, 2019, 03:09:04 PM
Our ice is improving.

Talking with a buddy about going night fishing for Ling.  Never tried that before.
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 07:32:16 PM
Wow what scenery Nix.   :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 17, 2019, 07:41:17 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 18, 2019, 12:13:36 AM
Ling? Have you ever had that before? How does it taste if you have?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 12:48:44 AM
I think Ling are more properly called 'Burbot'. Apparently the are active at night in Winter, but fairly dormant in Summer. So they are somewhat uncommon for the average fisherman. Hence the idea of sneaking out onto the ice at night to catch a few.

I've never eaten one, but understand they are great eating:

Quote
Ling are incredibly good tasting, and are often referred to as “poor man’s lobster.” When I get the chance to cook a few, I prefer to cut them up in chunks, batter them with buckwheat and flour, and deep fry them in oil. They taste amazing. I’ve also heard of people steaming or boiling the meat and dipping it in butter like lobster.

Now you now the motivation for sitting out on some ice on a Winter's night....  :D
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 18, 2019, 01:40:49 AM
I think Ling are more properly called 'Burbot'. Apparently the are active at night in Winter, but fairly dormant in Summer. So they are somewhat uncommon for the average fisherman. Hence the idea of sneaking out onto the ice at night to catch a few.

I've never eaten one, but understand they are great eating:

Quote
Ling are incredibly good tasting, and are often referred to as “poor man’s lobster.” When I get the chance to cook a few, I prefer to cut them up in chunks, batter them with buckwheat and flour, and deep fry them in oil. They taste amazing. I’ve also heard of people steaming or boiling the meat and dipping it in butter like lobster.

Now you now the motivation for sitting out on some ice on a Winter's night....  :D
Pour mans lobster...I’m in. Thanks  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 18, 2019, 01:42:09 AM
 :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 22, 2019, 11:07:35 PM
Got a new reel to use for ice-fishing:

(https://i.imgur.com/7sr7anX.jpg)


Champ assisted while loading the spool with some hefty 10# flouro. 

Going for Ling on Friday evening. We'll be out on the ice in the dark.  I've found that it's nice to set up some gear before hand, as opposed to trying to tie knots and find small pieces by flashlight, using cold fingers......

(https://i.imgur.com/F5FjLyN.jpg)


Tied a few drop shots and a couple of Carolina rigs for use fishing for Ling on the bottom.   :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 22, 2019, 11:13:40 PM
The Sedona's a nice reel Nix, sounds like a fun night  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 23, 2019, 12:03:05 AM
Shimano makes excellent fishing reels...I used to use the bait casting all the time!  :like: :tu:
I would like to try out their fly reels but they are very proud of them!
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 23, 2019, 04:00:10 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 23, 2019, 04:42:22 AM
Just wondering....have you gentlemen ever tied any tube fly’s? And if you have, have you increased your success rate go up vs them throwing the flies and getting away? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 23, 2019, 05:31:14 AM
I've heard of tube flies, but never tied one.

I should though....I'll try anything!  :D
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 23, 2019, 01:41:49 PM
I haven't tied any myself or fished one, they were quite a craze around here for a while but don't hear much about them now  :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 23, 2019, 02:40:22 PM
Thanks...I’ll be going to the fly shop today and check out what they have there. That will be a indication if you are popular or not. Hopefully I will be coming back with a new SAK.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Higgins617 on January 23, 2019, 03:16:47 PM
Got a new reel to use for ice-fishing:

(https://i.imgur.com/7sr7anX.jpg)


Champ assisted while loading the spool with some hefty 10# flouro. 

Going for Ling on Friday evening. We'll be out on the ice in the dark.  I've found that it's nice to set up some gear before hand, as opposed to trying to tie knots and find small pieces by flashlight, using cold fingers......

(https://i.imgur.com/F5FjLyN.jpg)


Tied a few drop shots and a couple of Carolina rigs for use fishing for Ling on the bottom.   :tu:

That's a sweet reel, I've been 100% converted. Won't buy anything other than Shimano reels now.
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 23, 2019, 03:21:18 PM
Thanks, Higgins.

I gotta say, Shimano makes a smooooooooth real.  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 24, 2019, 04:54:00 PM
I'm slowly transitioning my spin casting lures from treble hooks to single hooks. Just seems kinder to the fish that aren't going to be kept.

(https://i.imgur.com/8mtBHZY.jpg)


As long as I'm replacing hooks, it seems like an opportunity to hide the hook and add a bit of extra movement to an otherwise clunky lure. I used the Swiss Champ's scissors to add a bit of fur to a couple of single hooks to try this concept out.

(https://i.imgur.com/9pOw4jQ.jpg)


The separate single hooks might get fished as they are, or used as replacement hooks for some other treble hooks. Haven't decided quite yet.....
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 24, 2019, 05:45:13 PM
I'm slowly transitioning my spin casting lures from treble hooks to single hooks. Just seems kinder to the fish that aren't going to be kept.

(https://i.imgur.com/8mtBHZY.jpg)


As long as I'm replacing hooks, it seems like an opportunity to hide the hook and add a bit of extra movement to an otherwise clunky lure. I used the Swiss Champ's scissors to add a bit of fur to a couple of single hooks to try this concept out.

(https://i.imgur.com/9pOw4jQ.jpg)


The separate single hooks might get fished as they are, or used as replacement hooks for some other treble hooks. Haven't decided quite yet.....
Well you will find out how well it works out pretty soon. I never thought of that, but I like the ideal...and the hook is at the back for the short strikes. I will be really interested in knowing how well it works for you. One of the reasons I asked about the tube flys is because the hook is at the back. The only concern I have is the lure weight being used by the fish to throw the hook...can’t wait to hear how your field test goes!  :like: :tu: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 24, 2019, 07:31:05 PM
A couple of summers ago I went on an old school craze, and almost exclusively used spoons and spinners, I dressed some of the hooks, and they performed well  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 24, 2019, 10:56:56 PM
Any pics of those dressed-up lures, Greg?

I'm looking for ideas.....
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 24, 2019, 11:04:04 PM
Any pics of those dressed-up lures, Greg?

I'm looking for ideas.....

I'll dig some out on the weekend, they were nothing fancy though just some bucktail and a bit of tinsel
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 24, 2019, 11:08:19 PM
Another idea I haven't tried is to simply remove the hook and replace it with a fly of appropriate size  :think:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 24, 2019, 11:16:18 PM
Any pics of those dressed-up lures, Greg?

I'm looking for ideas.....

I'll dig some out on the weekend, they were nothing fancy though just some bucktail and a bit of tinsel
:tu:
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 24, 2019, 11:42:42 PM
With the ones I posted above, I tied on some lead-free weight (0.15mm wire), then I added a little crystal flash and covered the 'lead' with dubbing. Then the fur or buck tail got added on.

They almost look like small, short streamers.

I'm curious to see what they look like in the water. Might try 'em out this weekend in the open water below the dam. (Ice fishing tomorrow night got cancelled for several reasons, not the least of which is that Mrs Nix's 2005 Jeep is acting up.)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 25, 2019, 03:06:16 AM
With the ones I posted above, I tied on some lead-free weight (0.15mm wire), then I added a little crystal flash and covered the 'lead' with dubbing. Then the fur or buck tail got added on.

They almost look like small, short streamers.

I'm curious to see what they look like in the water. Might try 'em out this weekend in the open water below the dam. (Ice fishing tomorrow night got cancelled for several reasons, not the least of which is that Mrs Nix's 2005 Jeep is acting up.)
Oh boy, the Gladiator comes out this spring/summer... :whistle:
It is one of the reasons I am going back to work for 3 months - money will be going for one!  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 25, 2019, 10:16:35 PM
Looks like the Gladiator could be used as a fishing truck......

(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bff012eda27f85dfa0e92ce-750-563.jpg)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 25, 2019, 10:26:00 PM
Here's a shot of my Vic Fly-caster next to a Lamson Speedster:

(https://i.imgur.com/LmSiNHX.jpg)



I made the rod from a Sage DS2 5-wt blank.  I didn't follow Sage's schema for the guides, but altered them a bit, adding one more. As a result, the action is slowed down a bit and tends to be a little less aggressive or snappy. Probably not my best casting rod, but it catches fish.
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 25, 2019, 10:27:18 PM
Looks like the Gladiator could be used as a fishing truck......

(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bff012eda27f85dfa0e92ce-750-563.jpg)
That is the exact model and color I am wanting! They say next year, they will be coming out with a Hercules model, bigger, badder to compete against Ford, Toyota and the other big boys! :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 25, 2019, 10:30:49 PM
Looks like the Gladiator could be used as a fishing truck......

(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bff012eda27f85dfa0e92ce-750-563.jpg)
That is the exact model and color I am wanting! They say next year, they will be coming out with a Hercules model, bigger, badder to compete against Ford, Toyota and the other big boys! :tu:

I like that one, as it is. Sometimes smaller is more.   :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 25, 2019, 10:32:38 PM
Here's a shot of my Vic Fly-caster next to a Lamson Speedster:

(https://i.imgur.com/LmSiNHX.jpg)



I made the rod from a Sage DS2 5-wt blank.  I didn't follow Sage's schema for the guides, but altered them a bit, adding one more. As a result, the action is slowed down a bit and tends to be a little less aggressive or snappy. Probably not my best casting rod, but it catches fish.
Rod building is one thing I have never tried. Saw a Lawson Liquid??? Today at the shop. Did get the Renzetti Traveler 2000 and some old back issues of Fly Tyer.
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 25, 2019, 10:35:25 PM
Looks like the Gladiator could be used as a fishing truck......

(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bff012eda27f85dfa0e92ce-750-563.jpg)
That is the exact model and color I am wanting! They say next year, they will be coming out with a Hercules model, bigger, badder to compete against Ford, Toyota and the other big boys! :tu:

I like that one, as it is. Sometimes smaller is more.   :tu:
Oh yeah  :iagree: I would be one BIG happy camper with the Gladiator. I haven’t been this excited about any new vehicle in so long, I can’t even remember!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 25, 2019, 10:48:48 PM
Sadly, fly fishing is more expensive than SAK collecting.

Not that I'm a collector. I'm not. I only buy the SAK's I need.

There's a difference.  ;)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 25, 2019, 11:39:19 PM
Sadly, fly fishing is more expensive than SAK collecting.

Not that I'm a collector. I'm not. I only buy the SAK's I need.

There's a difference.  ;)
It is! But compared to some other outdoor things, not that expensive. Shooting for example, ammo cost :facepalm: the fly vice is very much like a reloader. Hummm,  :rofl: they both have  recipes, you can make what you need to what you are after. You can go fishing pretty much anywhere, especially in the city. Not so much with shooting outside in the city!
Now photography cost have come way down with them finding a home on the phones! Digital cameras on phones have just about killed regular camera sales. What would we see in another 20 years!   :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 26, 2019, 02:12:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cDU0aiD.png)


 :whistle:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 26, 2019, 03:41:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cDU0aiD.png)


 :whistle:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I’m saving this one!  :cheers: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 27, 2019, 02:39:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cDU0aiD.png)


 :whistle:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 27, 2019, 02:49:36 PM
As promised here's a Mepps Aglia I added Bucktail to, I have some others when I can get to them, they're not fancy, but the catch rate did go up

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 02:51:21 PM
Very nice, Greg!   :like:

I do like a Mepps, especially for still water. I've tried them in rivers, but without much luck.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 27, 2019, 02:52:29 PM
Here's a shot of my Vic Fly-caster next to a Lamson Speedster:

(https://i.imgur.com/LmSiNHX.jpg)



I made the rod from a Sage DS2 5-wt blank.  I didn't follow Sage's schema for the guides, but altered them a bit, adding one more. As a result, the action is slowed down a bit and tends to be a little less aggressive or snappy. Probably not my best casting rod, but it catches fish.

Very nice, rod building is pretty cool but I've held back so far
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 27, 2019, 02:56:17 PM
Very nice, Greg!   :like:

I do like a Mepps, especially for still water. I've tried them in rivers, but without much luck.  :cheers:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 03:03:34 PM
I took a class.

Rod building is actually pretty straight forward and not too complicated if you follow the recipe (like fly tying). However, you do need a way to keep the rod spinning to have an even coating of epoxy around the thread wraps on the guides. The instructor had a nice little machine to leave the rod turning over night. Brilliant.

I can't justify buying a machine, since I don't really need to build more rods.......

I'd be open to taking another class at some point  just for the fun of it though.

And it is really fun to catch a fish on a rod you've made yourself with a fly you've tied yourself. 

Consider taking a class (I took mine through a local fly shop in Colorado, but a community college might have classes.). Building the rod gave me a better appreciation of rod-design and manufacturing. And I felt that it sort of tied me into the angling tradition a bit more. (pardon the pun.) A fun and satisfying experience. And it turns out to be the rod I use the most around here. (A 5 wt is fairly ideal. 4 wts for some smaller stuff. 6 wts for windier days)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 27, 2019, 03:24:00 PM
As promised here's a Mepps Aglia I added Bucktail to, I have some others when I can get to them, they're not fancy, but the catch rate did go up
Nice set up! At first I thought that mepps was a surfboard!  :rofl:
 :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 03:28:22 PM
Perfect for Great White fishing......?
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 27, 2019, 03:32:36 PM
I took a class.

Rod building is actually pretty straight forward and not too complicated if you follow the recipe (like fly tying). However, you do need a way to keep the rod spinning to have an even coating of epoxy around the thread wraps on the guides. The instructor had a nice little machine to leave the rod turning over night. Brilliant.

I can't justify buying a machine, since I don't really need to build more rods.......

I'd be open to taking another class at some point  just for the fun of it though.

And it is really fun to catch a fish on a rod you've made yourself with a fly you've tied yourself. 

Consider taking a class (I took mine through a local fly shop in Colorado, but a community college might have classes.). Building the rod gave me a better appreciation of rod-design and manufacturing. And I felt that it sort of tied me into the angling tradition a bit more. (pardon the pun.) A fun and satisfying experience. And it turns out to be the rod I use the most around here. (A 5 wt is fairly ideal. 4 wts for some smaller stuff. 6 wts for windier days)
Wow...lot of great info! I can see where you would get even more satisfaction with the rod and flys you have tied! I get that feeling when I remove the hook and release them. Always a smile on my face! Now, just out of curiosity, was there a money savings for you building it.  :cheers: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 27, 2019, 03:35:59 PM
Perfect for Great White fishing......?
Thats very true! Sad thing is that it has happened, from their view a person sitting on the board and then paddles, looks like a turtle! Food!  :dwts:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: MACGYVER95 on January 27, 2019, 03:36:40 PM
 :climber:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: MACGYVER95 on January 27, 2019, 03:37:58 PM
 :climber:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: MACGYVER95 on January 27, 2019, 03:38:41 PM
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Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 03:43:53 PM
Un grand couteau pour un petit poisson!   :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 27, 2019, 03:53:02 PM
Welcome!
Nice post and photo’s!  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on January 27, 2019, 04:37:37 PM
 :iagree:
Welcome to the topic  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: MACGYVER95 on January 27, 2019, 05:34:20 PM
Thank you for your welcome on this Post, I must master better the method to insert the photos .....
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 05:40:46 PM
Ça marche.  :tu:

I have noticed some photograph websites are easier to use than others.   :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: MACGYVER95 on January 27, 2019, 05:50:15 PM
 :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 27, 2019, 09:44:55 PM
Ça marche.  :tu:

I have noticed some photograph websites are easier to use than others.   :tu:
So very true!  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Aligator on January 27, 2019, 09:58:13 PM
With my faithful angler.
(https://fotos.miarroba.com/me/fa8e/2C5CD0CA91335C48C8DD265C48C2BB.jpg)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on January 27, 2019, 11:11:03 PM
With my faithful angler.
(https://fotos.miarroba.com/me/fa8e/2C5CD0CA91335C48C8DD265C48C2BB.jpg)
That would work... :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 11:28:13 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on March 04, 2019, 08:46:38 PM
I'm planning on going ice-fishing tomorrow....

Spent a little time pre-tying some rigs and flies. I've got a few lightly weighted flies I want to try, so I thought a few drop-shot rigs might be handy. I'll report back tomorrow.....

(https://i.imgur.com/sOvfBfq.jpg)





ooooh, new to renew my license...  :ahhh
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on March 05, 2019, 12:47:19 AM
 :tu:

Good luck tomorrow  :cheers:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: kottskrapa on March 05, 2019, 02:03:58 AM
Here we never say good luck to someone who will go fishing.. It's bad luck.. We say "skitfiske på dig" which can translate to crap fishing to you or hope you don't get anything.. But we awl secretly hope you will and it's just code to lure the fish

[It's not failure if you learn something from it]

Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on March 05, 2019, 02:05:56 AM
 :rofl:

Well, my fishing buddy had an abrupt change of plans, and our fishing date has been postponed a few days.   :-\

I'm hoping we get out later this week.  :)
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on March 05, 2019, 02:27:13 AM
Wow!
That was some jinx I put on you, to have the whole trip cancelled  :rofl:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on March 05, 2019, 02:36:48 AM
Right?   :rofl:

Winter fishing.....what can you do?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Rapidray on March 05, 2019, 03:15:35 AM
I'm planning on going ice-fishing tomorrow....

Spent a little time pre-tying some rigs and flies. I've got a few lightly weighted flies I want to try, so I thought a few drop-shot rigs might be handy. I'll report back tomorrow.....

(https://i.imgur.com/sOvfBfq.jpg)





ooooh, new to renew my license...  :ahhh

Oh boy, that’s nice!  :tu:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on March 08, 2019, 02:07:44 AM
My buddy and I did get out today.

The weather forecast was for temps in the low-30's and partly cloudy........ not exactly the case.

(https://i.imgur.com/mXX76W3.jpg)


Temps were down around 16ºF, which wasn't too bad, but a brisk wind kicked up and we both started to get cold. He hadn't worn enough warm layers and I hadn't brought warm enough gloves. My fingers started to go numb while changing flies and simple knots became a chore.

My gear:

(https://i.imgur.com/vgonExz.jpg)

Vic Fly Caster and Shimano reel on a short ice-rod. 

I was jigging my flies and the line got badly iced up in short order.

Once it started snowing, we packed up--empty handed--and ran for hot coffee.  A difficult outing, but we lived to fish another day.......  :D
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Aloha on March 09, 2019, 07:59:02 AM
Burrr it looks cold. 
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on March 09, 2019, 01:46:34 PM
My buddy and I did get out today.

The weather forecast was for temps in the low-30's and partly cloudy........ not exactly the case.

(https://i.imgur.com/mXX76W3.jpg)


Temps were down around 16ºF, which wasn't too bad, but a brisk wind kicked up and we both started to get cold. He hadn't worn enough warm layers and I hadn't brought warm enough gloves. My fingers started to go numb while changing flies and simple knots became a chore.

My gear:

(https://i.imgur.com/vgonExz.jpg)

Vic Fly Caster and Shimano reel on a short ice-rod. 

I was jigging my flies and the line got badly iced up in short order.

Once it started snowing, we packed up--empty handed--and ran for hot coffee.  A difficult outing, but we lived to fish another day.......  :D

 :like:
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Nix on March 13, 2019, 10:33:55 PM
Wenger scissors got pressed into service tying up leaders today.  :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/wtMnFCn.jpg)



When is Spring......?
Title: Re: Saks gone fishing
Post by: Greg Jones on March 13, 2019, 11:52:34 PM
Wenger scissors got pressed into service tying up leaders today.  :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/wtMnFCn.jpg)



When is Spring......?

 :tu:
Soon very soon  :cheers: