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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #60 on: April 05, 2009, 03:48:41 AM
If Bear & Sons was an "active" part of the multi tool universe, then I'd be for it...but there isn't any Bear news or new Bear products to discuss.  Not enough IMO for there to be another section/forum for them.

I really wish Bear & Sons WOULD be an active multi maker...the electrician head tool hasn't been done in that size before, and aside from the Squirt E4, I don't think it's been done period.  Maybe if they were into the game they'd see that SOG failed with that cutter head and fill in that hole in the market.

Then we'd have something to talk about! :D
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #61 on: April 05, 2009, 03:55:51 AM
Well I think if we made a forum for it, it would help them get more popular and fill in that hole
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #62 on: April 05, 2009, 04:08:16 AM
the thing is, I'm suggesting it so Bear gets more attention. The opposition is saying it doesn't have enough attention. creating a new forum could possibly fix it.
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #63 on: April 05, 2009, 04:32:20 AM
Your avatar is a step in the right direction! Nice!
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #64 on: April 05, 2009, 04:33:30 AM
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Your avatar is a step in the right direction! Nice!

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Reply #65 on: April 05, 2009, 04:33:49 AM
Quote from: Corrugated on April 05, 2009, 03:48:41 AM
If Bear & Sons was an "active" part of the multi tool universe, then I'd be for it...but there isn't any Bear news or new Bear products to discuss.  Not enough IMO for there to be another section/forum for them.

I really wish Bear & Sons WOULD be an active multi maker...the electrician head tool hasn't been done in that size before, and aside from the Squirt E4, I don't think it's been done period.  Maybe if they were into the game they'd see that SOG failed with that cutter head and fill in that hole in the market.

Then we'd have something to talk about! :D

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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #66 on: April 05, 2009, 04:42:38 AM
Its been what.....about 5 years since Bear introduced anything new in their multitools? :think:  Which is too bad really, as for awhile there they were quite innovative. :-\
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Reply #67 on: April 05, 2009, 04:45:19 AM
Quote from: J-sews on April 05, 2009, 04:42:38 AM
Its been what.....about 5 years since Bear introduced anything new in their multitools? :think:  Which is too bad really, as for awhile there they were quite innovative. :-\

On the bright side at least they haven't started using imported parts like most everyone else.
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Reply #68 on: April 05, 2009, 04:47:33 AM
Quote from: american lockpicker on April 05, 2009, 04:45:19 AM
Quote from: J-sews on April 05, 2009, 04:42:38 AM
Its been what.....about 5 years since Bear introduced anything new in their multitools? :think:  Which is too bad really, as for awhile there they were quite innovative. :-\

On the bright side at least they haven't started using imported parts like most everyone else.

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This commitment to excellence has just improved due to rich family tradition in knife making craftsmanship not only by management, but also our experienced work force.  Our customers and consumers can look for even more new and exciting products as a result.  Our ongoing commitment is to make them in America and make them affordable.  We want everyone to be able to afford what we are proud to make!
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #69 on: April 05, 2009, 04:47:45 AM
Yeah Bear does do everything in house :tu: but  looks like they would have done some sort of an update in the last few years :think:
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #70 on: April 05, 2009, 04:52:04 AM
they look good as is IMO...
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #71 on: April 05, 2009, 04:57:49 AM
Quote from: american lockpicker on April 05, 2009, 04:45:19 AM
Quote from: J-sews on April 05, 2009, 04:42:38 AM
Its been what.....about 5 years since Bear introduced anything new in their multitools? :think:  Which is too bad really, as for awhile there they were quite innovative. :-\

On the bright side at least they haven't started using imported parts like most everyone else.

Yet the inquiring mind can't help but ask questions. Take the Remington BirdHunter tool for instance, which is produced by Bear:





Originally it was stamped Made in USA, yet the package on recent ones say Made in China:

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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #72 on: April 05, 2009, 04:59:43 AM
I don't think it's Bear orientated anymore...maybe Remington went cheapo
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #73 on: April 05, 2009, 05:05:06 AM
Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 04:52:04 AM
they look good as is IMO...

The look is fine but the locks are well different :think:

The locks like the one in your pic I mean :)

Plus some of there tools like the file could use some improvement as well ::)
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #74 on: April 05, 2009, 01:02:57 PM

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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #75 on: April 05, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 04:59:43 AM
I don't think it's Bear orientated anymore...maybe Remington went cheapo

ROFL. It's the same.

Bear tools are great, and yes they're probably my favourite tools after LM, they're built fantastically strongly. But, if we had a dedicated forum for them then there'd be what, half a dozen threads to date? After that, new threads would have titles like:

- How do you carry your Bear?
- Do you still think Bears are great?
- Bear & Sons are still great.....
- What's your favourite Bear?
- ad infinitum, ad nauseum....

Nothing wrong with that btw, but there just aren't enough tools or interested people to have a dedicated forum here IMO.

If you really want to "market" Bear tools - set up a dedicated web-site. Dead easy to do, and I'd definitely stop by and say hi ;) Without checking, I dare say that www.bearsaregreat.com is available :D

Anyway, I think we should have a forum for Schrade, Kershaw, Al-Mar......... (catch my drift)?
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #76 on: April 06, 2009, 04:45:06 AM
Quote from: hawkchucker on April 05, 2009, 01:02:57 PM

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Quote from: DaveK on April 05, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 04:59:43 AM
I don't think it's Bear orientated anymore...maybe Remington went cheapo

ROFL. It's the same.

Bear tools are great, and yes they're probably my favourite tools after LM, they're built fantastically strongly. But, if we had a dedicated forum for them then there'd be what, half a dozen threads to date? After that, new threads would have titles like:

- How do you carry your Bear?
- Do you still think Bears are great?
- Bear & Sons are still great.....
- What's your favourite Bear?
- ad infinitum, ad nauseum....

Nothing wrong with that btw, but there just aren't enough tools or interested people to have a dedicated forum here IMO.

If you really want to "market" Bear tools - set up a dedicated web-site. Dead easy to do, and I'd definitely stop by and say hi ;) Without checking, I dare say that www.bearsaregreat.com is available :D

Anyway, I think we should have a forum for Schrade, Kershaw, Al-Mar......... (catch my drift)?

All good points Dave :tu:
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Reply #77 on: April 06, 2009, 11:54:30 AM
Sorry I was kinda havin a flashback
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Reply #78 on: April 06, 2009, 04:16:49 PM
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Sorry I was kinda havin a flashback

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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #79 on: April 09, 2009, 05:51:23 AM
Quote from: Poncho65 on April 06, 2009, 04:45:06 AM
Quote from: DaveK on April 05, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Anyway, I think we should have a forum for Schrade, Kershaw, Al-Mar......... (catch my drift)?

All good points Dave :tu:

I agree as well.  Too much wine in this thread, we need some cheese and we can call it a party  :drink: :ahhh

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Reply #80 on: April 09, 2009, 11:06:26 AM
I wouldn't say it was whining exactly, and I do think it's great that people are championing the "less well known" manufacturers. My thinking is that if we had more forums, the site wouldn't be as easy to navigate, rather than thinking they aren't "worthy", if you see what I mean.
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Reply #81 on: April 10, 2009, 02:54:06 AM
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I wouldn't say it was whining exactly, and I do think it's great that people are championing the "less well known" manufacturers. My thinking is that if we had more forums, the site wouldn't be as easy to navigate, rather than thinking they aren't "worthy", if you see what I mean.

Yep that is right to many forums and I would get lost :ahhh Like on Knifeforums I can't find SOSAK very easily sometimes ::) and if it is to hard to navigate it might discourage newer members from visiting all our lovely subforums if there were to many ;)
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #82 on: April 10, 2009, 07:33:24 AM
Quote from: DaveK on April 05, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 04:59:43 AM
I don't think it's Bear orientated anymore...maybe Remington went cheapo

ROFL. It's the same.


https://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=Bird+Hunters+Tool

That says it went to CHINA!
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Reply #83 on: April 10, 2009, 08:46:11 AM
The rights to Remington's name I believe are owned by the infamous Taylor Craplery.

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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #84 on: April 10, 2009, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: rockyman500 on April 10, 2009, 07:33:24 AM
Quote from: DaveK on April 05, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: rockyman500 on April 05, 2009, 04:59:43 AM
I don't think it's Bear orientated anymore...maybe Remington went cheapo

ROFL. It's the same.


https://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=Bird+Hunters+Tool

That says it went to CHINA!

My point was, that it's the same, just made in China now. Who knows, maybe the quality's better now?
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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #85 on: April 10, 2009, 04:56:41 PM
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Sometime in the mid-2000's production of the tool was moved to China. Great effort was put into making the Chinese tool appear identical to the Bear & Sons USA-made tool. The quality differences are quite apparent however.


It's not very specific...but it says its different...
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Reply #86 on: April 10, 2009, 07:15:59 PM
It just says different, maybe it meant better?
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Reply #87 on: April 10, 2009, 07:40:02 PM
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Sometime in the mid-2000's production of the tool was moved to China. Great effort was put into making the Chinese tool appear identical to the Bear & Sons USA-made tool. The quality differences are quite apparent however.


It's not very specific...but it says its different...

Great effort was put into making the Chinese tool appear identical to the Bear & Sons USA-made tool. The quality differences are quite apparent however

I strongly believe they TRIED to make it the best that they could...but it just didn't live up to the Bear....

Made in U.S.A. > chinese crap
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Reply #88 on: April 10, 2009, 07:45:25 PM
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Quote from: rockyman500 on April 10, 2009, 04:56:41 PM
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Sometime in the mid-2000's production of the tool was moved to China. Great effort was put into making the Chinese tool appear identical to the Bear & Sons USA-made tool. The quality differences are quite apparent however.


It's not very specific...but it says its different...

Great effort was put into making the Chinese tool appear identical to the Bear & Sons USA-made tool. The quality differences are quite apparent however

I strongly believe they TRIED to make it the best that they could...but it just didn't live up to the Bear....

Made in U.S.A. > chinese crap


Oh, so you've handled them both and compared them then? Sorry I didn't realise.

For a while there I thought you were making sweeping generalisations, or even just guessing!

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I used to come here a lot.

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Re: new section on main site...
Reply #89 on: April 10, 2009, 07:49:20 PM

from the article...

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It "was" a very well made tool, until sometime in the mid-2000's when Remington started having the Bird Hunter's Tool made in China.
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