Which one ?

vicnacc · **on:** April 10, 2009, 12:49:38 AM

Hello,

I am a bit young in the multitool world so I would like to have some advices regarding my future purchase.

I am loocking for a robust tool with strong pliers and many and hard screwdriver (an adaptative one). The rest is not important (a little blade may be but honestly I don't care).
I don't care about size and weight since I want to carry it into the glove box of my care.

I was loocking for the new wenger called wengergrip but, I don't really know if the plier heads are ok (I mean if this kind of heads are more usefull than the thin one we can see in almost all the other products/brands). Also this one is hard to find.

I am a bit loss with all the brand and all the choice : sog, gerber, leatherman, victorinox, wenger, aitor...

Do you have any idea for me ?

Thanks in advance.

Sean · **Reply #1 on:** April 10, 2009, 12:53:27 AM

vicnacc, welcome to the forum. I am sure there will be lots of advice and suggestions for you shortly.

This question gets asked quite often around here and usually there are no shortage of answers.

You really cannot go wrong with any of the above names you mentioned. Take a look to make sure the tools that you would like most are on the pliers when you go to look and you probably won't be disappointed.

sean

Anthony · **Reply #2 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:01:42 AM

Leatherman Super Tools are common and have all the qualities you're looking for. The Super Tool is one of the first tools have locking impliments, and it's pretty much a standard, quality tool. There are lots of used ones out there.

Outside of that basic design, things get more complicated with outside opening blades, one hand opening blades, bit changers, scissors, premium steels for the blades, etc..

The tool reviews on the main page are a good place to start and just look over what tools look like and see what catches your eye.

vicnacc · **Reply #3 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:07:56 AM

guys,

I was not expected so quick replies. Thanks for that.
I just forgot to mention hat I would like that the pliers stay in open position when I don't exerce any pressure on the handle. You know what I mean ?
I hope my english is understoodable, applogies for that if it is not the case.

Thanks again.

PyroJames · **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:09:47 AM

Welcome to the forums, Vicnacc.

I would recommend a SOG powerlock. If you're looking for strong pliers, the compound leverage on SOG multi-tools is excellent. For an adaptive screwdriver, the socket adaptor accepts 1/4" screwdriver bits and SOG multitools also allows you to change components so you can customize it with tools that fit your specific needs.

Unfortunately, the pliers are not spring-loaded.

Craig · **Reply #5 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:11:38 AM

Welcome to the forum, vicnacc

. Don't worry about your English - mine isn't up to much and I'm from England

.

vicnacc · **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:20:28 AM

Quote from: PyroJames on April 10, 2009, 01:09:47 AM

Unfortunately, the pliers are not spring-loaded.

What do you mean ?
That's the point when I was talking about my english level.

Nikos · **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:21:35 AM

Welcome to the forum dude.

As others will also tell you, it all depends on what you plan to do with that tool. If it's just strong pliers and screwdrivers you need you might be better off with exactly that: a strong pair of pliers and a good bit driver plus bits, without the whole multitool hype (and money spending). If you also want can/bottle openers, a blade, scissors, being pocketable, etc., things start to blur. The Wengergrip, for example, is about as strong a pair of pliers as you can get on a multitool, but it's far from being pocket-friendly. There are other much slimmer packages but they all have their pros and cons. Do you have any idea what the intended use will be? Local laws is another big factor; if for example you can't carry a locking blade, your options start to diminish.

PyroJames · **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:27:38 AM

Quote from: vicnacc on April 10, 2009, 01:20:28 AM

Quote from: PyroJames on April 10, 2009, 01:09:47 AM
Unfortunately, the pliers are not spring-loaded.

What do you mean ?
That's the point when I was talking about my english level.

You mentioned that you would like the pliers to stay open. SOG multitools do not do this because they do not have a spring in the pliers to keep it constantly open. However, I think Gerber multi-tools does have spring-loaded plier heads. (Correct me if I'm wrong, guys! I don't own any Gerber tools except for the Clutch.)

Benner · **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:29:58 AM

As far as I know, Gerber and Buck (with the X-tract) are the only manufacturers that have spring loaded pliers.

Nikos · **Reply #10 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:35:04 AM

And among those it's probably the MP700 and MP800 that have the strongest pliers. They have the well known short Gerber drivers as well, but there is also the Gerber bit kit that fixes that issue.

vicnacc · **Reply #11 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:45:38 AM

First of all, thanks to everybody for the friendly welcome.
Very kind !

Quote from: noth on April 10, 2009, 01:21:35 AM

Welcome to the forum dude. As others will also tell you, it all depends on what you plan to do with that tool. If it's just strong pliers and screwdrivers you need you might be better off with exactly that: a strong pair of pliers and a good bit driver plus bits, without the whole multitool hype (and money spending). If you also want can/bottle openers, a blade, scissors, being pocketable, etc., things start to blur. The Wengergrip, for example, is about as strong a pair of pliers as you can get on a multitool, but it's far from being pocket-friendly. There are other much slimmer packages but they all have their pros and cons. Do you have any idea what the intended use will be? Local laws is another big factor; if for example you can't carry a locking blade, your options start to diminish.

Noth,
The objective is :
1) I want just one tool I can carry in the glove boxe. It will be used for everything. As I already do with my EDC knife.
2) I like well made knives and it is the occasion to have a well made multitool. In terms of knife I have a Greco folder which is, for the people that know a bit the knife world a very strong and usefull knife and I am loocking the equivalent in multitool. That's was my thoughts when I was talking about pliers and screwedrivers. Those items are just on the top of my list. Of course if I can have extra things like a saw it could be cool, but I don't think I will use it a lot, maybe once. So I don't care if the tool is beautifull or not, I am loocking for the strongest tool that fit into my frame : fixed/folding pliers (I have a preference for the fixed one like the Sog Toolclip or the Al Mar 4*4 for they don't have multi screwdrivers and are discountinued ; I like this kind of ugly tool), multi screwdrivers. I am a kind of beast with my thing, I will use them for everything. That's the way I like to use my stuff.
.
As for the knife, I want also the item itself and not only a pair of pliers and a screwdriver. I hope I am enough clear.

duckman1975 · **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:46:26 AM

Welcome to the forum!
If you need a powerful plier, in my opinion nothing can beat SOG's multitool pliers its gear makes it very powerfull.

Sean · **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2009, 02:37:24 AM

spring loaded pliers? also check out CRKT Zilla Tool. The two models one big one small are also pretty nice units and they both have good springs that will keep the jaws open between squeezes.

sean

Poncho65 · **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2009, 03:19:07 AM

Welcome to the forum

I agree that a fixed plier is stronger but I use the foldable type for almost everything and have never had any problems with them so I wouldn't count them out

MultiMat · **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2009, 03:36:52 AM

Quote from: vicnacc on April 10, 2009, 01:45:38 AM

First of all, thanks to everybody for the friendly welcome.
Very kind !

Quote from: noth on April 10, 2009, 01:21:35 AM
Welcome to the forum dude. As others will also tell you, it all depends on what you plan to do with that tool. If it's just strong pliers and screwdrivers you need you might be better off with exactly that: a strong pair of pliers and a good bit driver plus bits, without the whole multitool hype (and money spending). If you also want can/bottle openers, a blade, scissors, being pocketable, etc., things start to blur. The Wengergrip, for example, is about as strong a pair of pliers as you can get on a multitool, but it's far from being pocket-friendly. There are other much slimmer packages but they all have their pros and cons. Do you have any idea what the intended use will be? Local laws is another big factor; if for example you can't carry a locking blade, your options start to diminish.

Noth,
The objective is :
1) I want just one tool I can carry in the glove boxe. It will be used for everything. As I already do with my EDC knife.
2) I like well made knives and it is the occasion to have a well made multitool. In terms of knife I have a Greco folder which is, for the people that know a bit the knife world a very strong and usefull knife and I am loocking the equivalent in multitool. That's was my thoughts when I was talking about pliers and screwedrivers. Those items are just on the top of my list. Of course if I can have extra things like a saw it could be cool, but I don't think I will use it a lot, maybe once. So I don't care if the tool is beautifull or not, I am loocking for the strongest tool that fit into my frame : fixed/folding pliers (I have a preference for the fixed one like the Sog Toolclip or the Al Mar 4*4 for they don't have multi screwdrivers and are discountinued ; I like this kind of ugly tool), multi screwdrivers. I am a kind of beast with my thing, I will use them for everything. That's the way I like to use my stuff.
.
As for the knife, I want also the item itself and not only a pair of pliers and a screwdriver. I hope I am enough clear.

You want ugly , I think the 'Multimaster' by Kutmaster might fit the bill . The wire cutters on it are truly something else , it has a good tool selection. The only possible negative is the screw driver option ,it is a magnetic tool bit slot on the end of the non bladed handle , so you would need to match it with some small tool bits. They were sold with a sheath that included some tool bits , but i got my on dirt cheap 2nd hand so missed out. It reminds me of a Russian tank basic but very effective

. It also has a cool basic locking system (L locks) were the 2 handles mesh together & gripping the tool locks the tool being used in place. You may be limiting your options with wanting pliers with springs in it.
The Kutmaster is the tool on the bottom. I should mention it is a some what obscure tool

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll287/multimat426/multitools/51b29d66.jpg[/img]]

Some more about the Multimaster
http://multitool.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=MultiMaster

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2009, 04:38:23 AM

I'd also chime in for the Columbia River Knife and Tool Zilla or Zilla Jr. If it's for a glove box in a car, Zilla would be fine. They both have very nice pliers which will stay open without pressure (spring-loaded).

Welcome!

rockyman500 · **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2009, 04:50:04 AM

Bear and Son Super Bear Jaws 156l looks like it will suit you...
Strong blunt-nose pliers, an aggressive saw, and probably the strongest #2 phillips available on a multitool, which lives up to ASME standards...you can buy the coupler kit for expanded use...

Styerman · **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2009, 04:50:14 AM

First off , most multis are light to medium duty pliers . This is due to the fact that 90 odd % of the heads are cast . All have different pros and cons . The Victorinox Swisstool is well worth a look , as is the Spirit . Start at the top !

Chris

J-sews · **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2009, 02:11:18 PM

Greetings vicnacc!

nuphoria · **Reply #20 on:** April 10, 2009, 02:40:27 PM

Hey there, welcome to the forum.

When you have time, check out the main multitool.org page (banner at the top) for loads of reviews on tools - you might get even more good ideas there!

Sean · **Reply #21 on:** April 10, 2009, 05:20:15 PM

Quote from: nuphoria on April 10, 2009, 02:40:27 PM

Hey there, welcome to the forum.

When you have time, check out the main multitool.org page (banner at the top) for loads of reviews on tools - you might get even more good ideas there!

thats a damn fine idea.

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