I have an ALX so similar but not exactly like the TTi. I would agree that functionally, I prefer the Charge ALX. The hook and exchangeable bits are hugely helpful. Also, for me, a pointed blade is generally more useful, although the Spirit butter knife has never let me down.The pocket clip is a big plus for EDC purposes.One thing that hasn't been mentioned, but I ran into while installing a window is the Vic mini-ratchet. Yes, it works well and takes standard 1/4 bits BUT, If you have to bear down on the screw/bolt, the bit will push all the way through the ratchet handle, which is a bit of a pain.So, for me, the pocket clip, cutting hook and integral bit drivers are the deciding factors in favor of the Charge. Blade material and blade shape favor the Charge, but are less important. Beautiful finish is definitely the Vic strong suit, as are the various chisel/blade surfaces, but they don't outweigh the positives of the Charge.
Wire Strippers - Tons of strippers on the Spirit. And as we all know, the world needs more strippers.
The Spirit's philips driver is not tougher than the LM's and it's not even close to indestructible. After the first use, my philips driver already showed signs of stripping!
I don't think the Spirit's blade cuts better than a 154CM blade, and the steel is not tougher; it's much softer.
BTW, the Charge doesn't have a metal file.
IMO, the sheath rides too high on the belt, and it pokes you in the side when you sit.. And, it's base layer is made of vinyl!
Buzzbait, I meant to say metal saw!
I was speaking on behalf of the nylon sheath.
If I ever had to pry I would use the large flat head driver or the prybar on the Spirit! Grin The philips driver isn't meant for prying anyways!
We are talking about knives not hatchets that will be used for chopping!
Can somebody explain to me, one thing that the Spirit does better than a Charge that makes you all think it's a better tool? I really cannot see it
Some of these things are personal preference sure
Quote from: DaveK on April 25, 2009, 11:38:01 PMCan somebody explain to me, one thing that the Spirit does better than a Charge that makes you all think it's a better tool? I really cannot see it No need/use to, as:Quote from: DaveK on April 25, 2009, 11:38:01 PMSome of these things are personal preference sureFor me, the Charge has an edge with its OH premium steel blades and diamond-coated file but that's about all the practical plus's of the TTi. I have no use for titanium handles (gimmicky imho), a cap crimper, a belt sheath, etc. OTOH the Spirit is more pocket friendly (slimmer + lighter), and I like its drivers, plier head and blade shape more. That said, my TTi is a keeper and my companion when in the bush but for the rest 95% of my time that i'm in an urban environment, the Spirit is a much better match.In the end of the day, it all boils down to: YMMV.
No sorry Noth - these things aren't about opinion. The term "opinion" is what we use on this forum to pass off our bias sometimes, and I'm getting totally cheesed off with the bias at the moment.
I'll grant you that the Spirit is slimmer, but the weight difference is negligible.
What do you like more about the drivers, pliers , blade shape etc? They are less substantial, and definitely less effective. I can and have tried both, and the Charge simply performs better.
The blade is bigger and stronger.
The pliers are longer, have a better needle nose to them and a bigger cutting area.
The drivers are less slippy, and simply work better.
The Spirit is a decent tool sure, but the way people get orgasmic about it and claim it to be the "best multitool" available is clearly a flawed view. If it really is that good, why don't they sell that many of them?