Vics on Amazon again...

Nikos · **on:** May 09, 2009, 12:47:00 AM

<sigh> clicky

rockyman500 · **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:18:57 AM

I have no knowledge about Vics on amazon...why is it bad that they are there?

cliosguy · **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:23:21 AM

bad? no, great? yes

rockyman500 · **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:26:24 AM

Quote from: cliosguy on May 09, 2009, 01:23:21 AM

bad? no, great? yes

not the products, the fact that they're on amazon...

cliosguy · **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:27:05 AM

Quote from: rockyman500 on May 09, 2009, 01:26:24 AM

Quote from: cliosguy on May 09, 2009, 01:23:21 AM
bad? no, great? yes

not the products, the fact that they're on amazon...

yes, thats what i was talking about

rockyman500 · **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:32:39 AM

well he said sigh...

cliosguy · **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:15:08 AM

i guess it was because hes not buying it, just like me

Nikos · **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:16:01 AM

Because he, being outside the US, can't get them and can only stare at their price and wonder why a European product sells for less than half its price almost half a globe far from its place of origin...

nuphoria · **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:34:00 AM

Yep, it rattles my cage too.... they have Spirits for a good price too

Woz · **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:10:06 PM

I´ll NEVER understand this CONUS only stuff

Never heard of any European dealer who refuses to send to the US. I HATE ConUS Only sellers!

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:42:21 PM

Quote from: Woz on May 09, 2009, 01:10:06 PM

I´ll NEVER understand this CONUS only stuff
Never heard of any European dealer who refuses to send to the US. I HATE ConUS Only sellers!

Not exactly helpful is it $:-\$

Neil · **Reply #11 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:29:44 PM

I try not to look at these deals. It never helps

Neil

AndyTiedye · **Reply #12 on:** May 09, 2009, 05:53:25 PM

You mean you can't get just as good deals from amazon.co.uk? Why is that?

Nikos · **Reply #13 on:** May 09, 2009, 06:00:10 PM

And to think about that, the guy behind Amazon.com actually comes from Greece...

Gareth · **Reply #14 on:** May 09, 2009, 06:05:30 PM

Quote from: AndyTiedye on May 09, 2009, 05:53:25 PM

You mean you can't get just as good deals from amazon.co.uk? Why is that?

Not even close, and I've no idea why either.

I gave up looking at Amazon.co.uk for SAKs a long time ago as there are never the deals. I could live with that if I could order from amazon.com, but we can't.

max6166 · **Reply #15 on:** May 09, 2009, 07:03:42 PM

Quote from: AndyTiedye on May 09, 2009, 05:53:25 PM

You mean you can't get just as good deals from amazon.co.uk? Why is that?

Here's an even weirder one. Amazon.com won't ship SAKs or MTs to Canada, while amazon.ca doesn't even offer them for sale.

Amazon are not willing to sell us Canucks SAKs or MTs at all! How's that for money out the window...

DaveK · **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2009, 01:02:10 AM

Quote from: Gareth on May 09, 2009, 06:05:30 PM

Quote from: AndyTiedye on May 09, 2009, 05:53:25 PM
You mean you can't get just as good deals from amazon.co.uk? Why is that?

Not even close, and I've no idea why either. I gave up looking at Amazon.co.uk for SAKs a long time ago as there are never the deals. I could live with that if I could order from amazon.com, but we can't.

It's because amazon.co.uk are bound by the RRP rules laid down by the people who have the import agreements with the manufacturers. For example, a Leatherman tool sold on amazon.co.uk, must still have been imported by Whitby and Co, and therefore amazon (or their Market Place seller) will only get the tools from Whitby's if they agree not to sell below RRP. These rules wouldn't apply to used tools, but obviously the RRP will drive the used price also.

It is wrong, it probably isn't legal under EU competition laws, but, it's the way it is and the only way to contest it would be to hire a lawyer and take civil action. I should add that I am not a lawyer, but when contesting this with Whitby's myself in the past, I just got nowhere and had to give up

Gareth · **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2009, 11:09:37 AM

Ah, that makes sense. Still smurfing annoying though.

Woz · **Reply #18 on:** May 10, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

It does. And it is even worse in Germany, where any LM tools purchased by mailorder outside the EU can be confiscatet by customs even if it´s NOT a fake but genuine Leatherman. The same with Surefire, Maxpedition and some other brands. German law makes it possible to confiscate products just because the official importer wants to make more money.
Luckily I´ve never heard of such restrictions in Austria.

Woz

Neil · **Reply #19 on:** May 10, 2009, 01:19:39 PM

Quote from: Woz on May 10, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

It does. And it is even worse in Germany, where any LM tools purchased by mailorder outside the EU can be confiscatet by customs even if it´s NOT a fake but genuine Leatherman. The same with Surefire, Maxpedition and some other brands. German law makes it possible to confiscate products just because the official importer wants to make more money.
Luckily I´ve never heard of such restrictions in Austria.

Woz

Bloody hell! I thought our customs were draconian

Guess I should quit winging and count my blessings.

Neil

MultiMat · **Reply #20 on:** May 10, 2009, 02:17:38 PM

Quote from: Woz on May 10, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

It does. And it is even worse in Germany, where any LM tools purchased by mailorder outside the EU can be confiscatet by customs even if it´s NOT a fake but genuine Leatherman. The same with Surefire, Maxpedition and some other brands. German law makes it possible to confiscate products just because the official importer wants to make more money.
Luckily I´ve never heard of such restrictions in Austria.

Woz

Man Alive

. That stinks. What a bum deal. I wonder how often it is enforced

Woz · **Reply #21 on:** May 10, 2009, 02:55:07 PM

When ever an item is declared being one of the brands or when ever customs find one of these items when they open packs.
That´s why some of the rare ebay sellers who sell to the EU often write "worldwide, but due to customs not to Germany" - just google

Gareth · **Reply #22 on:** May 10, 2009, 05:03:13 PM

Holy heck, that's harsh!

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