Swisstool Spirit and X: did I get the proportions right?

Zio Arcano · **on:** April 27, 2007, 12:05:05 PM

Lately I've been thinking about investing some money and buy a Spirit (which I'm still waiting for), but today I woke up and felt like I really need a Swisstool X too! So, before actually buying one, I want to compare it to the Spirit. I've made kind of a wallpaper to compare the two. Do you think the proportions are correct?

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2007, 12:28:48 PM

Those proportions look pretty close. As you see from these pictures, the actual size difference between the two isn't major, but they do feel worlds apart when you actually have them both in your hands. It's one of those non-quantifiable things that Victorinox excels at.

Def

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2007, 12:29:52 PM

This SwissTool isn't an X model since I don't have one, but they are all pretty well the same size.

Def

Zio Arcano · **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2007, 12:59:46 PM

I know my girlfriend is going to think I'm crazy, but I'm getting a Swisstool X too. It looks strong, tough and heavy, the right counterpoint to the Spirit. The idea was to get the Spirit and then a Leatherman Wave, but I've played with the Wave a few days ago and it just doesn't feel right to me. The design is superb, it looks cool and the blades are really easy to open (especially if you're holding something with your left hand) but the overall quality and toughness don't seem to match those on the Swisstool. And all those "...the steel may rust so be extremely careful" you can read on their website scare me a little. I still like it a lot, though.

Thanks for the pics!

Raukodur · **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2007, 01:13:35 PM

the comparative LM tool to the swisstool is the Surge I believe, not the wave, may want to check that out first.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2007, 01:20:04 PM

Defnately. The SuperTool is on par with the Core, Surge and the SuperTools. It's hard to compare the Wave to those models.

And, I think the rust issue is minor at best, and the kind of thing where someone had a minor problem and everyone else blew it out of proportion. See the thread in the LM forum here where everyone listed off the LM's that rusted and it all seems to be minor surface rust.

Def

Zio Arcano · **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2007, 01:58:14 PM

I guess that cleaning and drying carefully the tool after use can keep it safe from rust, but sometimes it's reassuring to know that even if you forget to do that and let the tool soak in salty water for a day, a Victorinox multitool won't fall apart because of corrosion. My experience with Swiss Army Knives tells me that, I feel I can trust Victorinox steel more that any other when it comes to deal with corrosion and acids. That is actually why I compared the Wave to the Swisstool X/Spirit: it's more about overall quality and steel reliability than size.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:04:16 PM

I don't think any company can compete with Victorinox's resistance to rust or corrosion. While saying that Leatherman is the most susceptible, it's still significantly more rust resistant than most other tools in your toolbox. Quite frankly I always thought that reputation wasn't warranted.

But, comparing just about anything to Victorinox will often leave you at a serious disadvantage!

Def

Zio Arcano · **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:43:57 PM

Quote from: Defender on April 27, 2007, 02:04:16 PM

I don't think any company can compete with Victorinox's resistance to rust or corrosion. While saying that Leatherman is the most susceptible, it's still significantly more rust resistant than most other tools in your toolbox. Quite frankly I always thought that reputation wasn't warranted.

But, comparing just about anything to Victorinox will often leave you at a serious disadvantage!

Def

Although I'm sure that having a strong competitor forces a company to improve its work more and more,wouldn't it be fun if Leatherman and Victorinox worked together to combine Leatherman's design with Victorinox's quality to build the ultimate multitool? I know it will not happen and I will eventually stick to Victorinox (since I need a steel that I'm sure I can abuse without fear), but it would be a funny experiment..

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2007, 02:52:38 PM

Yup. Victorinox really does take alot of the concern out of multitool ownership! Mind you, they've been at it for over a hundred years now. Just imagine what Leathermans will be like when they get to that point!

Def

Raukodur · **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2007, 03:44:21 PM

its almost......scary

Dunc · **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2007, 07:08:18 PM

You cant go wrong with a Swisstool X , and I have a Spirit too

Dunc

Zio Arcano · **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2007, 07:58:09 PM

A perfect couple.

J-sews · **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2007, 06:28:18 AM

Oooh, pretty pictures Dunc! Are those from your new camera?

Dunc · **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2007, 11:07:48 AM

Quote from: J-sews on April 28, 2007, 06:28:18 AM

Oooh, pretty pictures Dunc! Are those from your new camera?

I thought you had already seen them , sometimes I forget what I have posted and this must have slipped through the net .Yes taken with the new camera

Dunc

parnass · **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2007, 02:42:04 PM

I posted several Spirit versus SwissTool X comparison photos last January in this thread:

http://edcforums.com/index.php?topic=6728.0

I don't know if you must be logged into the EDCforums web site to view them.

Here are a couple of those photos:

felinevet · **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2007, 07:36:56 PM

Just a reminder to everyone. If you are considering a new MT (or Swiss Army Knife), let me know what you need and I will give you a quote. I don't keep a lot of non-Vic MTs on hand but can usually get them. I carry SwissTools, Spirits, etc. in stock. My price quotes always include shipping and I guarantee complete ecstatic joy with your item or money back.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #17 on:** April 29, 2007, 02:51:16 AM

Do I know you?

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #18 on:** May 06, 2007, 12:08:01 PM

Stop it, stop it, stop it now!

I don,t need a spirit i really don,t i,ve already got a swisstool x, but these pics are weakining me

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #19 on:** May 06, 2007, 12:25:25 PM

Micky, haven't you learned by now in all your time in SOSAK that there is no one who doesn't need a Spirit? Or an OHT? Or a Copper Cadet, or Scientist, or Yeoman, Mauser, Champion, Classic, etc etc etc?

Just give in and order a Spirit from Felinevet- your life will be much less stressful if you stop fighting the inevitable!

This could be you, enjoying your new Spirit on a sunny beach in Spain... doesn't that sound like fun? But you have to get a Spirit first... we can help you with that, the rest is up to you!

Def

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #20 on:** May 06, 2007, 07:20:35 PM

Quote from: Defender on May 06, 2007, 12:25:25 PM

Micky, haven't you learned by now in all your time in SOSAK that there is no one who doesn't need a Spirit? Or an OHT? Or a Copper Cadet, or Scientist, or Yeoman, Mauser, Champion, Classic, etc etc etc?

Just give in and order a Spirit from Felinevet- your life will be much less stressful if you stop fighting the inevitable!

This could be you, enjoying your new Spirit on a sunny beach in Spain... doesn't that sound like fun? But you have to get a Spirit first... we can help you with that, the rest is up to you!

Def

your not helping

i may get one near the end of the month, natraully from tim

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #21 on:** May 06, 2007, 07:40:02 PM

Yes I am... just give in to the dark side... search your feelings, you know it to be true....

Def

Viper · **Reply #22 on:** May 06, 2007, 07:57:26 PM

The thing that get me about the Spirit is that the handles curve out, and it seems it would make an uncomfortable grip. The reason I bought the SwissTool in the first place was that, when closed, the pliers MT that I had was almost in a perfect "V" shape, while the SwissTools silhouette was almost a perfect rectangle, with a small indentation to help open it.

J-sews · **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2007, 04:49:48 AM

Form follows function. The Spirit looks a little unusual in the closed position, but the great "feel" in your hand in the open position makes it all worthwhile!

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