One-piece multitools

[J-sews]

I know we talked about this in an earlier thread some time ago, but it seems worth discussing further.....

What does everyone think about one-piece multitools? Obviously they are not as versatile as a SAK or a plier-type tool, but they're not as heavy either. Generally as slim as the piece of metal they were cut from, they can be carried without a sheath and without a bulge. Only a metal detector knows when you are carrying a one-piece.



I've been following the progress of the +B Pocket PryBar in the SwissBianco forum. It's a good example of a capable one-piece tool.



The Extrik-8-R from Columbia River Knife & Tool is another one-piecer that catches my eye.



The Credit Card Karambit from Crawford is more knife than tool, but it's all titanium, which is neat. Also a bit on the pricey side.



Speaking of credit cards, who hasn't tried out one form or another of these things in the past?

Any more one-piece multitools out there?
 

 

[Grant Lamontagne]

There's the Frog Tool and Frosch Tools offered by United Cutlery.  I think I have another one but I can't think of it right now...

As soon as it hits me I'll let you know...

Def

[J-sews]

Yup, I remember recently talking about those two HERE.


Frosch Tool.



Frog Tool. (boy, I really do like that photo. Can't quite put my finger on why though... :grin:)

Others?

[Grant Lamontagne]

If you check that link on BladeMatrix I think tehre were three, weren't there?  Two different designs, one of which was available in Metric and Imperial versions?

Or maybe I am hallucinating form not having enough beer in me...

Def

[J-sews]

If you check that link on BladeMatrix I think tehre were three, weren't there?  Two different designs, one of which was available in Metric and Imperial versions?

Or maybe I am hallucinating form not having enough beer in me...

Def

Withdrawal can be a terrible, terrible thing. 

[Grant Lamontagne]

How about this one?  Technically it's a self defense tool (Datu Kelly Worden's Impact Kerambit) disguised as a tool, but I've used it more as the wrench it is pretending to be than the self defense tool it is!

Of course, being made of plastic, it probably isn't the ideal wrench, but like many multitools it's better than nothing in a pinch.  The wrench sizes are 3/8, 7/16, 1/2 and 9/16s.  It also has a lanyard hole, and an instructional video (for defense, not for wrenching!) and kydex sheath are available seperately.

Def

[Thargor]

How do use that for self-defence? Just squeeze it in your fist while you punch someone or is there a better technique? (Or was your post a joke that went way over my head?)

[Anthony]

I think your pinkie goes in the large opening and the bent part comes out the top of your fist...and you punch and thrash away at the attacker with the hard plastic instead of your knuckles.

[Grant Lamontagne]

Yup, it is indeed a horrific weapon of minor destruction.

http://www.kungfuonline.com/print.php?article=51

When used as a tool it fixes ninjas permanently.  I experimented with it as an issue weapon for security guards thinking it might provide an acceptable level of defense without the bulk or intimidation of carrying a full baton.  Overall it wasn't bad at all, but I decided to go a different way in the end.

The forefinger goes in the large hole and you use the bottom of the "L" under the base of your hand in hooks and hammer blows.  There's more to it than that, but that's basically it.

Def

[Grant Lamontagne]

If you put your pinkie in it, prepare to lose it on impact!  Punching someone with your pinkie in the hole will create enough pressure to shatter the pinkie and possibly snap it off.

I wouldn't reccomend trying it!   

Def

[Anthony]

haha that's true...I was thinking of using a blade while holding it like that (like the knife versions it's based on)..but throwing a punch with that on your pinkie would hurt.

The plastic SD tools shaped like a cat with big sharp ears looks pretty powerful..

This site has some pics:
http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/Keychains/wildkat.php

[Grant Lamontagne]

It's not advised to use a bladed kerambit in the foreward grip position either for the same reason.

In fact, any self defense tools that you slide your fingers in may solidify your impact in one direction, but if moved laterally in the lightest, can cause you serious injury.  Small bones in your hands and fingers are very fragile, and if forced to take a lateral impact, compounded by a relatily thing hunk of metal or plastic can easily cause irreperable damage.  The Kerambit is more or less stable in the grip because it is supported on both sides by the thumb and forefinger, and also by the other fingers and the palm of your hand.  However, if you were to strike something in such a way as to jar the majority of your fingers loose, it's entirely possible that you could injure yourself even with that. 

Def

[Raukodur]

better to find some special gloves, which have padded over the knuckes, and a compartment filled with metal dust over that. Will make the gloves a lot heavier, but will also give your punch a lot more momentum. I saw a pair of gloves like that on Ebay once, unfortunately they were in XXL size of something, so not suitable for me, otherwise might have been tmepted to buy them.

[Grant Lamontagne]

Gloves like that are available through your local police supply.  They are used for crown/riot control, but then you are getting a little mall-ninjaish, unless you have a reason for these kinds of things.

They're pretty heavy for day to day wear!

Def

[Raukodur]

but then you are getting a little mall-ninjaish, unless you have a reason for these kinds of things.

Very true, no real reason to go about wearing these, unless I suppose you really had an idea someone was going to jump you in the near future, maybe walking through a particularly bad neighbourhood.

Wonder what kind of a punch they pack though, jaw breaking stuff?

[CQC-7]

Speaking of impact weapons; although not a one piece tool the Kershaw caribiner tool wraps around the fist nicely for me.     Although, impact weapons though they have uses are not all that great.  Punching someone square in the nose usually ends the fight quickly.  Many a time when I was younger I ended many a fight with only one punch thrown.  Punch em in the nose and when they stagger back put em in a headlock and ask them if they want more, they usually dont.   However, now people have no honor and they like fighting way too much.  There was a time when a fight started and pwople threw pnches and settled their differences and got up after it was over shook hands and walked off no attorneys, courts, etc...  Those days are long gone.  My advice for self defense, CARRY A GUN, BE PREPARED TO USE IT, AND PRAY THAT YOU NEVER HAVE TO USE IT.

[J-sews]

It's not advised to use a bladed kerambit in the foreward grip position either for the same reason.

In fact, any self defense tools that you slide your fingers in may solidify your impact in one direction, but if moved laterally in the lightest, can cause you serious injury.  Small bones in your hands and fingers are very fragile, and if forced to take a lateral impact, compounded by a relatily thing hunk of metal or plastic can easily cause irreperable damage.  The Kerambit is more or less stable in the grip because it is supported on both sides by the thumb and forefinger, and also by the other fingers and the palm of your hand.  However, if you were to strike something in such a way as to jar the majority of your fingers loose, it's entirely possible that you could injure yourself even with that. 

Def

What's this "kerambit" word all about? I thought it was just a made-up name for that one funny knife tool pictured at the beginning. Does the word kerambit actually refer to any knife tool like that one?

[665ae]

Ooooh... Bob... I've got a Kerambit that's perfect for you!

[J-sews]

I like it! It looks like a eagle claw or such!

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

are the swiss bianco pry bars still available?

[Grant Lamontagne]

The SwissBianco Prybar isn't available yet.

As for the kerambit, it's a Phillipino martial arts weapon based on a farming tool.  They have the ring at the top for your finger and the blade sticks out from under your hand, and was designed originally for harvesting tall grasses and rice.  About 4 years ago it became the "trendy" knife to have and so every company started to produce one.

Def

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Is there a list i should be on then? :grin:

As for kerambits, i,ve handled a few, and i find them to compromised as a weapon, or tool.

they limit you to a few techniques as as a tool apart from as def says for cutting grasses, there pretty hopeless in my opinion.

give me a proper knife anyday

[Raukodur]

OT but are you a serenity / firefly fan Micky? Reason I ask is because of your sig, that's the song used in the opening credits.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

OT but are you a serenity / firefly fan Micky? Reason I ask is because of your sig, that's the song used in the opening credits.

huge fan :grin:

i cried real tears when they pulled it

[Grant Lamontagne]

Well Micky, it seems that you aren't Steve Tarani's alter ego....

Def

[Raukodur]

I know what you mean, one of the most enjoyable series Id had the pleasure of seeing, I thought the movie complemented it nicely, although I disliked the killing off of characters since I really hope they would continue with the series seeing what a huge success the movie / series became. Ah well, I'm sure they can introduce equally interesting new characters, the joy of the program was the character development I felt.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I know what you mean, one of the most enjoyable series Id had the pleasure of seeing, I thought the movie complemented it nicely, although I disliked the killing off of characters since I really hope they would continue with the series seeing what a huge success the movie / series became. Ah well, I'm sure they can introduce equally interesting new characters, the joy of the program was the character development I felt.

very true, there was talk of running another series from a time before the movie so as to keep the caricters alive, but sadly it just doesnt seem likely now, people seem to have turned there backs on scifi, just look at what happened to enterprise, and stargate is no more as well.

good to see there is at least one more fan out there though

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Well Micky, it seems that you aren't Steve Tarani's alter ego....

Def

nope :grin:

i know that in an experts hands there a fearsome weapon, but in an experts hands just about anything in there hands is a fearsome weapon :grin:

I,d prefere a weapon/tool that you can change the orientation off to suit your need/situation a karabit i don,t think allows that

[Raukodur]

very true, a true expert is someone who can use what is around them, have to be able to adapt to changing situations otherwise you become extinct.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

very true, a true expert is someone who can use what is around them, have to be able to adapt to changing situations otherwise you become extinct.

exactly