Red Alox

[gustophersmob]

Red Alox and Pink Sandstone.

There goes another keyboard

[Dr Gonzo]

Farmer

[magentus]

Farmer
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Very VERY nice. What type of lanyard knot is that Dr? And how do you flatten the ends that way?

[rmagralha]

Red Alox and Pink Sandstone.

Beautiful! What are those? Farmers and Pioneers? Whatelse? 

Column 1 - Pruner, Woodsman w/bail, Midshipman, Gardener

Column 2 - Seaman, Woodsman, Workman, Solo

Column 3 - Sailor, First Mate, Pioneer Harvester, Pioneer

Wow!!! Amazing, again...congratulations....but you should get a farmer  just kidding!

[Dr Gonzo]

Very VERY nice. What type of lanyard knot is that Dr? And how do you flatten the ends that way?

Its a Hangman's Noose AKA Chris Reeve Lanyard...I wet the leather then squash it with pliers to flatten the ends

http://www.chrisreeve.com/knotleft.htm

[magentus]

Thanks for the link - I'll check it out - I only know the Turks head one - time to broaden my horizons!

[ColoSwiss]

Red Alox and Pink Sandstone.

Beautiful! What are those? Farmers and Pioneers? Whatelse? 

Column 1 - Pruner, Woodsman w/bail, Midshipman, Gardener

Column 2 - Seaman, Woodsman, Workman, Solo

Column 3 - Sailor, First Mate, Pioneer Harvester, Pioneer

Wow!!! Amazing, again...congratulations....but you should get a farmer  just kidding!

Farmers (all of them). 

[gustophersmob]

Wow, very nice!

I've just got 2 questions:  How much? and Give it to me! (a Homer Simpson thing)

[ColoSwiss]

Wow, very nice!

I've just got 2 questions:  How much? and Give it to me! (a Homer Simpson thing)

1. If you have to ask, you can't afford it. 

2. Never mind the d### dog, beware of owner.

[gustophersmob]

Wow, very nice!

I've just got 2 questions:  How much? and Give it to me! (a Homer Simpson thing)

1. If you have to ask, you can't afford it. 

2. Never mind the d### dog, beware of owner.

[AimlessWanderer]

I only have the one red alox - a new in pack Pioneer I got a while back. It's surplus to requirements at the moment, but I'm hanging on to it in case my black one gets lost

[rmagralha]

Red Alox and Pink Sandstone.

Beautiful! What are those? Farmers and Pioneers? Whatelse? 

Column 1 - Pruner, Woodsman w/bail, Midshipman, Gardener

Column 2 - Seaman, Woodsman, Workman, Solo

Column 3 - Sailor, First Mate, Pioneer Harvester, Pioneer

Wow!!! Amazing, again...congratulations....but you should get a farmer  just kidding!

Farmers (all of them). 

  wow ColoSwiss, I didn´t want to let you angry  .... that is a beautiful group of farmers! 

[ICanFixThat]

Here is a very early version of the Farmer, showing just a little aging.

[ColoSwiss]

Dr Gonzo and ICanFix That,

Nice early versions of the Farmer.    Never managed to pick up either, and the way red alox prices are going, I'm not likely to. 

rmagralha,

Any excuse to show off. 

[gustophersmob]

@ Icanfixthat:  Very nice!  I don't recall seeing a farmer with the bail before.  Looks in good shape for its age (I'm assuming mid-late 60's  )

[rmagralha]

Dr Gonzo and ICanFix That,

Nice early versions of the Farmer.    Never managed to pick up either, and the way red alox prices are going, I'm not likely to. 

rmagralha,

Any excuse to show off. 

 

[ColoSwiss]

Did some more digging:

Old Victorinox with bails: Pioneer, Workman, Woodsman (left)

Wenger and Elsener (Victorinox) Official Issue Soldiers (right)

Some of these, particularly the Elsener Soldier, could use an upgrade.

[ICanFixThat]

@ Icanfixthat:  Very nice!  I don't recall seeing a farmer with the bail before.  Looks in good shape for its age (I'm assuming mid-late 60's  )

The Reamer is bent, but I think it will staighten without issue.  I'm not sure of the date, but I was thinkin late 50s to mid 60s. Maybe Jazzbass knows; bail, scraper, unpolished, +PAT, brass liners, Elinox/VSSR deep tang on reverse.

... Old Victorinox with bails: Pioneer, Workman, Woodsman (left) ....

Very nice red-Alox with bails.

[duder]

I don`t think it can be from the late 50s, then it should have the old style awl (1957-1960). And yours already has the new style saw. Maybe it`s from the mid to late 60s. I`m not sure when they changed from the old to the new woodsaw. Does someone know it ?
I have never seen the oldest version of the alox Farmer with the old triangle awl. The oldest one I know so far is the one in the foto here.

[jazzbass]

The Reamer is bent, but I think it will staighten without issue.  I'm not sure of the date, but I was thinkin late 50s to mid 60s. Maybe Jazzbass knows; bail, scraper, unpolished, +PAT, brass liners, Elinox/VSSR deep tang on reverse.

I don`t think it can be from the late 50s, then it should have the old style awl (1957-1960). And yours already has the new style saw. Maybe it`s from the mid to late 60s. I`m not sure when they changed from the old to the new woodsaw. Does someone know it ?
I have never seen the oldest version of the alox Farmer with the old triangle awl. The oldest one I know so far is the one in the foto here.

Ditto exactly what duder said - the saw with symmetric teeth dates this to mid-to-late 1960s. I don't have an exact date on when it was changed but it's the same as the 91mm saw. In 91mm knives if you look at knives with the small awl + bail (1962 - 1968), you see about 50/50 distribution between the old saw and the new.  That makes me guess mid 1960s as a change over.

I base all of my alox dating on info from 91mm knives under the assumption that Vic tended to make similar changes across all of it's models at the same time. What you see in 91mm is the +PAT disappears around 1970. So for that Farmer, symmetric teeth and +PAT = c. 1965-1970.

I've also never seen a Farmer with the large triangular awl. I've always wondered if they existed, though.

[ICanFixThat]

Thanks guys; of course you're right I forgot about the triangle awl, not to mention the saw.  I'll have to think about these things a little more before replying which is one reason I tend to leave dating to you experts. 

[gustophersmob]

Thanks to a great trade, I finally got an old red cross Pioneer with brass liners!   

[gw8433]

my alox SAK

[Dr Gonzo]

Pioneer with an 85 Soldier blade

[gustophersmob]

my alox SAK

Very nice! Whats the etching on the soldier blade 2nd from the right? 

[gustophersmob]

Pioneer with an 85 Soldier blade

I love the look of worn, red alox.  The leather just adds to its vintage charm   

[Dr Gonzo]

Pioneer with an 85 Soldier blade

I love the look of worn, red alox.  The leather just adds to its vintage charm   

Cheers mate
As you can probably tell from the lanyard its had some serious use.

[PTRSAK]

[nuphoria]

That's rather lovely

[Northern Geek]

Indeed!

Love the awl!