Hubs vs deraliers!

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #121 on:** July 20, 2008, 06:59:48 AM

I may swipe that and put it in a coat of arms.There's days when I feel like Methuselah

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #122 on:** July 20, 2008, 09:43:56 AM

So hubs are still best then

WhichDawg · **Reply #123 on:** July 20, 2008, 10:25:07 AM

well if anything it's sounds better: (whistling) "Nice Hubs there!"

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #124 on:** July 20, 2008, 01:06:04 PM

Quote from: WhichDawg on July 20, 2008, 10:25:07 AM

well if anything it's sounds better: (whistling) "Nice Hubs there!"

Never thought of it that way

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #125 on:** July 20, 2008, 11:54:18 PM

But nothing is as suave and debonair as wowing them with a little French..."your derailleurs are so tres chic".

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #126 on:** July 20, 2008, 11:57:02 PM

They won't take any notice of you mate, what with all that fine eating and drinking you've been doing

Cool sig line again, I liked the window on the world one best

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #127 on:** July 21, 2008, 12:09:19 AM

Quote from: micky d on July 20, 2008, 11:57:02 PM

They won't take any notice of you mate, what with all that fine eating and drinking you've been doing

Cool sig line again, I liked the window on the world one best

Products of either a fertile creative mind,or just too much free time on my hands

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #128 on:** July 21, 2008, 12:09:57 AM

I'm gona go with free time

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #129 on:** July 21, 2008, 12:11:47 AM

Smart man

WhichDawg · **Reply #130 on:** July 21, 2008, 05:53:51 AM

what's your stand, position on Krispy Kreme?
best ever, over rated?

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #131 on:** July 21, 2008, 10:19:56 AM

Quote from: WhichDawg on July 21, 2008, 05:53:51 AM

what's your stand, position on Krispy Kreme?
best ever, over rated?

I didn't know what the hell they were till I googled it

WhichDawg · **Reply #132 on:** July 21, 2008, 12:20:44 PM

Quote from: micky d on July 21, 2008, 10:19:56 AM

Quote from: WhichDawg on July 21, 2008, 05:53:51 AM
what's your stand, position on Krispy Kreme?
best ever, over rated?
I didn't know what the hell they were till I googled it

lol I'm sorry, I sometimes think of all of us as one big happy family
having all the same things

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #133 on:** July 21, 2008, 04:35:26 PM

Krispy Kreme can't be rated highly enough..the smell of a fresh batch can bring 'em in,in droves!

Dtrain · **Reply #134 on:** July 21, 2008, 04:57:47 PM

Quote from: Defender on May 19, 2007, 05:15:02 PM

Yeah... it's amazing what those guys can build with no resources, and half the time doing it under fire!

Given similar numbers, and restricting to conventional weapons, I firmly believed the Soviets, Chinese etc would win a war against the US simply because the AK-47 would fire not matter what... sure it wasn't overly accurate but they'd have time to fire off a few shots while the Yanks tried to unjam the M-16's!

My father has some stories, but either not many or he doesn't share them much. He eventually remustered to the Air Force and spent 30 years in Admin flying a desk. He retired about 10 years ago to a small cottage in the backwoods of Ontario where he spends his days fiddling with boats, ATV's, computers, fixing up the house and garage etc. This time next month I'll be up there too helping him build a shed, cut some trees, and whatever else needs to be done.

But I guess that's a little off topic!

Back to the original question, while I wouldn't mind playing with a hub, I think I am firmly entrenched in the derilleur camp!

Def

I am glad that you are going back to topic. I was going to take issue with you on the worlds oldest firearms debate M16 vs AK47 LOL this is a neat topic to follow along with. I had always associated hub gears with older 3 speed bicycles. I never knew that in Europe there are models with as many a s 14 gears.

Dtrain

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #135 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:42:40 PM

Yep, there called the Rohloff hub

http://www.rohloff.de/en/products/index.html

A true gem of a system

Dtrain · **Reply #136 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:07:46 AM

Just think of the possibilities of both systems bieng used. No hill would be feared

Dtrain

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #137 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:13:14 AM

Quote from: Dtrain on July 22, 2008, 12:07:46 AM

Just think of the possibilities of both systems bieng used. No hill would be feared

Dtrain

One day I'll get one, but by the time I can afford one, my knee's will be shot anyway

Tarrodemierda · **Reply #138 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:43:59 AM

i have one rohloff,its only seven speed but still.its pretty nice,has a place for track road type sprocket and disc brake.if i only could find a 32 spoke 26" wide rim to it

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #139 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:48:21 AM

Quote from: Tarrodemierda on July 22, 2008, 12:43:59 AM

i have one rohloff,its only seven speed but still.its pretty nice,has a place for track road type sprocket and disc brake.if i only could find a 32 spoke 26" wide rim to it

Now that will be a tough size to find $:-\$ , maybe there's one over the pond though

Tarrodemierda · **Reply #140 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:54:54 AM

over the pond called ocean between finland and uk

?

have u seen this one:

http://www.nicolai.net/products/e-frames/e-nuc-tst-evo.html

ive seen here few nicolais,my friend owns one with rohloff frame gearbox.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #141 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:57:55 AM

Quote from: Tarrodemierda on July 22, 2008, 12:54:54 AM

over the pond called ocean between finland and uk ?

have u seen this one:

http://www.nicolai.net/products/e-frames/e-nuc-tst-evo.html

ive seen here few nicolais,my friend owns one with rohloff frame gearbox.

Over the pond as in the US mate

That really is a clever arrangement

Tarrodemierda · **Reply #142 on:** July 22, 2008, 01:00:37 AM

theyre clever looking drop-off machines indeed and look silly when u roll down the trail without cranking,the chain still moves since theres no freewheel on rear hub,its located on gearbox.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #143 on:** July 22, 2008, 01:04:09 AM

Quote from: Tarrodemierda on July 22, 2008, 01:00:37 AM

theyre clever looking drop-off machines indeed and look silly when u roll down the trail without cranking,the chain still moves since theres no freewheel on rear hub,its located on gearbox.

Yeah that would get a few double takes

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #144 on:** July 22, 2008, 03:42:21 AM

I admit I like the Rohloff...maybe with an older crowd getting into cycling here,they'll gain in popularity.I've seen an upswing in Treks.Specializeds,Giants,even an Author in my little town.There's a greedy side of me that's hoping that after the riding season winds down,there'll be some people tired of fooling with derailleur shifting and/or don't realize that bikes need a tune up...and I'll be there to swoop down!

Tarrodemierda · **Reply #145 on:** July 22, 2008, 08:53:42 AM

Sturmey-Archer gear hubs are also nice little things.i only got one three speeder from 60´s.and im going to fix it if i can find some manual/advise.it has this drum brake too,but it seems to be brakeless since the pads are so old that the heat glue has vanished and pads are loose now.it has a real nice chrome compared to todays bike chrome quality.i founded it from some trash pile,just a nice brown rim with gold pinstripes,and this was in it.from ebay i might find the"gear knob" too.

although i ride alot mountainbikes too,i really have a fetish for vintage bicycles.theyre way too better craftmanship all the way.ive been hunting for some sport leather saddle but those brooks-branded are way too expensive now.

does any of u btw,have any info on vintage derailleurs,like campagnolo,shimano,etc?
old adds,pdf´s,etc?

it would be nice to see some and get some idea of what was the better line of any maker back then.i mean like shimano uses these alivio-altus-deore...xt....xtr...105-series thing,but how does it go on older different brands.