Swisstool or Supertool 300

Medic82 · **on:** December 17, 2009, 05:21:30 AM

I’m sitting her and listening to some good old fashion Metal and just started to wonder if I should EDC the Swisstool or the Supertool 300. I am sitting here and looking at both the tools and I can’t make up my mind, they are almost identical in size and weight and the tool lineup are basically the same.

Sure you can access all of the tools from the outside on the Swisstool but that isn’t so important for me and I like the clumping on the ST 300 when I need to use a tool. I like both of the pliers that are on them so that is not a deciding factor, the only thing that I don’t like on the Swisstool but love on the ST 300 is the can opener.

So I wonder what is the general opinion of these tools? If I had to choose between them then I would say the Supertool 300 just because of the can opener.

Zack · **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:23:08 AM

Give me a Swisstool anyday.

cliosguy · **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:28:30 AM

not having an actual swisstool but a spirit and having a ST300 and loving it id go for the ST300

american lockpicker · **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM

Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

jim guy · **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:59:34 AM

dont matter where the LM parts come from if you break a st300 you need the proper tools. Ive put mine through hell and it comes back laughing at me!

Anthony · **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:20:55 AM

I voted the ST300. The Swisstool may have outside opening tools and an overall better fit and finish, but some of the features on the 300 push it to the top of the heap for me; lots of cutting capability for wire and cable, nice long drivers, and an overall tank like feel

The Swisstool has the advantage of haveing more variations if you want scissors/rescue blade etc...

Freudian Frog · **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:54:55 AM

For EDC I'd say Swisstool, the ST300 is more of a workhorse to me.

David · **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:03:30 AM

SuperTool 300, now you`re ready!

Shane769 · **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:07:52 AM

LEATHERMAN!

... Ahem... got that out of my system

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:24:15 AM

Got to be the Swisstool

I trust no other tool, like I do that one

Medic82 · **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:02:32 AM

Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on December 17, 2009, 07:24:15 AM

Got to be the Swisstool

I trust no other tool, like I do that one

Now why did I think you would say Swisstool...........

Magnus · **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:36:58 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM

Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

so, the swisstool keeps perfect time but occasionally catches fire?

seriously, who cares where something is made, as long as it is made well, hell most tools are practically made by robots these days anyway.

Benner · **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2009, 02:29:37 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM

Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

Because of that logic?

Probably the Supertool for me.

american lockpicker · **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:18:14 PM

Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 02:29:37 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

Because of that logic?

Probably the Supertool for me.

Don't you always go with Leatherman anyway...

american lockpicker · **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:19:01 PM

Quote from: Magnus on December 17, 2009, 09:36:58 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

so, the swisstool keeps perfect time but occasionally catches fire?

seriously, who cares where something is made, as long as it is made well, hell most tools are practically made by robots these days anyway.

I think Vics are assembled by hand and I know the knives are sharpened by hand.

Precise · **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:20:26 PM

Obviously, they are both garbage! You should get something else and send both of those clunkers over to me. I'll deal with them....

Eh, I don't have either (Wish I did..). Use the swisstool on MWF and the st300 on TThSa and if a SOG isn't available for Sunday's, alternate every other Sunday between the two.

Benner · **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:24:46 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:18:14 PM

Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

Because of that logic?

Probably the Supertool for me.

Don't you always go with Leatherman anyway...

Depends on what it is to be used for. Usually I will as I like how they function and they fit my needs best, but that's not to say that I dislike anything else because of where it is made which seems to be your hole ethos for absolutely everything (look in my sig line I think you'll find both Vic and LM in there). It used to be just Chinese stuff that is crap, are Leathermans next on the list ALP because some of the parts aren't made in the good ol' US of A?

Bottom line is I like quality tools and couldn't care less where the sodding thing is made.

american lockpicker · **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:32:52 PM

Excluding the kick fuse and blast a lot of the newer leathermans I've seen haven't been cosistant in quality( loose screwdrivers on Squirts, grind marks on a micra knife, poor finishing on the bits, Charge handles that don't match, crude OH holes, etc.) I'm willing to bet that wouldn't happen if it was made in one place like Vics are(the worse I've seen on a Vic or Wenger is excess plastic on the scales and thats easily fixed.)

Nikos · **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:33:08 PM

Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 05:24:46 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

Because of that logic?

Probably the Supertool for me.

Don't you always go with Leatherman anyway...

Depends on what it is to be used for. Usually I will as I like how they function and they fit my needs best, but that's not to say that I dislike anything else because of where it is made which seems to be your hole ethos for absolutely everything (look in my sig line I think you'll find both Vic and LM in there). It used to be just Chinese stuff that is crap, are Leathermans next on the list ALP because some of the parts aren't made in the good ol' US of A?

Bottom line is I like quality tools and couldn't care less where the sodding thing is made.

Benner · **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:35:37 PM

Quote from: Nikos on December 17, 2009, 05:33:08 PM

Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

Because of that logic?

Probably the Supertool for me.

Don't you always go with Leatherman anyway...

Depends on what it is to be used for. Usually I will as I like how they function and they fit my needs best, but that's not to say that I dislike anything else because of where it is made which seems to be your hole ethos for absolutely everything (look in my sig line I think you'll find both Vic and LM in there). It used to be just Chinese stuff that is crap, are Leathermans next on the list ALP because some of the parts aren't made in the good ol' US of A?

Bottom line is I like quality tools and couldn't care less where the sodding thing is made.

I can be way more colourful than that.

Nikos · **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:37:48 PM

Taking the term "sodding" literaly brings up some rather "intrusive" mental images...

Benner · **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:38:31 PM

Child

Magnus · **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:43:14 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:19:01 PM

Quote from: Magnus on December 17, 2009, 09:36:58 AM
Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

so, the swisstool keeps perfect time but occasionally catches fire?

seriously, who cares where something is made, as long as it is made well, hell most tools are practically made by robots these days anyway.

I think Vics are assembled by hand and I know the knives are sharpened by hand.

so, the machine made parts are thrown together by hand like lego bricks and given five seconds on a belt grinder by a person then?

american lockpicker · **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:46:12 PM

Quote from: Magnus on December 17, 2009, 05:43:14 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: Magnus on December 17, 2009, 09:36:58 AM
Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

so, the swisstool keeps perfect time but occasionally catches fire?

seriously, who cares where something is made, as long as it is made well, hell most tools are practically made by robots these days anyway.

I think Vics are assembled by hand and I know the knives are sharpened by hand.

so, the machine made parts are thrown together by hand like lego bricks and given five seconds on a belt grinder by a person then?

Yes?

DaveK · **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:34:29 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:32:52 PM

Excluding the kick fuse and blast a lot of the newer leathermans I've seen haven't been cosistant in quality( loose screwdrivers on Squirts, grind marks on a micra knife, poor finishing on the bits, Charge handles that don't match, crude OH holes, etc.) I'm willing to bet that wouldn't happen if it was made in one place like Vics are(the worse I've seen on a Vic or Wenger is excess plastic on the scales and thats easily fixed.)

And I'm willing to bet that the one Squirt you've ever had isn't enough to form a judgement that anyone will take seriously ALP

The reality is, you pre-judge these things based on where they were made and the important things are irrelevant to you.

Don't get me wrong - I think you are entitled to your opinion as much as anyone is, but it ain't half boring reading the same sh1te over and over.....

AHB · **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:52:50 PM

Leatherman all the way..

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:56:25 PM

Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 05:24:46 PM

Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: american lockpicker on December 17, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Hmm a tool entirely made in Switzerland or one that might be made in the US of parts from who knows where. I say go with the swisstool.

Because of that logic?

Probably the Supertool for me.

Don't you always go with Leatherman anyway...

Depends on what it is to be used for. Usually I will as I like how they function and they fit my needs best, but that's not to say that I dislike anything else because of where it is made which seems to be your hole ethos for absolutely everything (look in my sig line I think you'll find both Vic and LM in there). It used to be just Chinese stuff that is crap, are Leathermans next on the list ALP because some of the parts aren't made in the good ol' US of A?

Bottom line is I like quality tools and couldn't care less where the sodding thing is made.

I love that phrase. If I could get away with saying it without looking like a complete tool, I would.

Oh, and I'm not sure since I haven't handled the ST300. I didn't care for the original or the ST200, but then again, I found the SwissTool a bit kludgy.

I prefer the Surge for large MT. But honestly, if I need serious beefiness in a pliers based tool, I prefer to carry a lineman's pliers (insulated at that) with a small MT.

Benner · **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:06:13 PM

Hey, you calling me a tool?!?

Medic82 · **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:08:17 PM

I am a bit surprised that it’s such a close race, I thought that most of the people here would say Swisstool. I’m just happy that there are other people out there that feels the same way as me

I love the SURGE but the out side opening implements don’t make it as streamlined as the ST 300

Mr. Whippy · **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:10:07 PM

Quote from: Benner on December 17, 2009, 09:06:13 PM

Hey, you calling me a tool?!?

No. Americans using clearly British phrases sound like tools.

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