I think a mod will come along and lock this one up sooner or later.EDIT: DaveK, I was going to disagree with you, as bigotry is usually caused by religion and politics, but after second thought, my definition may be a tad too narrow, as race is another big cause, albeit, nothing operates in a vacuum so to speak.
Quote from: DaveK on December 20, 2009, 03:25:02 PMFar be it from me to put words in Nuphoria's mouth, but she's referring to the comments about homosexuality and religion that have been made recently, and more specifically about the lack of clear condemnation of those comments. FWIW, I think you're spot on about the trolling RZ, but there have been some things that go beyond simple trolling, and Nuphoria's point (and mine) is that simply ignoring it isn't enough.Homosexuality, religion, and politics are ideal fodder for trolls.Provocative posts on these topics will usually upset someone enough to take the bait and respond. Provoking a response is the goal.Beyond simple trolling, which may provoke a response or two, is provoking argument on a bigger scale.If things go well for the troll, after the first response others will choose sides and jump in. Then the thread will degenerate into bickering and the troll triumphs..
Far be it from me to put words in Nuphoria's mouth, but she's referring to the comments about homosexuality and religion that have been made recently, and more specifically about the lack of clear condemnation of those comments. FWIW, I think you're spot on about the trolling RZ, but there have been some things that go beyond simple trolling, and Nuphoria's point (and mine) is that simply ignoring it isn't enough.
It took me an hour to make my most recent post because of that. Dave you are just too quick. And +1 to Gareth and RZ too.
Quote from: ringzero on December 20, 2009, 04:07:07 PMQuote from: DaveK on December 20, 2009, 03:25:02 PMFar be it from me to put words in Nuphoria's mouth, but she's referring to the comments about homosexuality and religion that have been made recently, and more specifically about the lack of clear condemnation of those comments. FWIW, I think you're spot on about the trolling RZ, but there have been some things that go beyond simple trolling, and Nuphoria's point (and mine) is that simply ignoring it isn't enough.Homosexuality, religion, and politics are ideal fodder for trolls.Provocative posts on these topics will usually upset someone enough to take the bait and respond. Provoking a response is the goal.Beyond simple trolling, which may provoke a response or two, is provoking argument on a bigger scale.If things go well for the troll, after the first response others will choose sides and jump in. Then the thread will degenerate into bickering and the troll triumphs..Excellently put RZ. I think the main problem with this one is that we have several members (that we specifically know of) who are ill-served by allowing this particular topic to be ignored. So the usual tactic of ignoring it is tantamount to dismissing it as trivial. But I do think you are spot on.Quote from: GraysonK on December 20, 2009, 04:21:15 PMIt took me an hour to make my most recent post because of that. Dave you are just too quick. And +1 to Gareth and RZ too. OK, but spare me the "I bet that's what your wife says too" jokes, OK?
I will admit, I am rather selective on which posts I read.
Quote from: Chako on December 20, 2009, 04:30:28 PMI will admit, I am rather selective on which posts I read. Sometimes i wish we Mod's could be too
Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on December 20, 2009, 04:31:05 PMQuote from: Chako on December 20, 2009, 04:30:28 PMI will admit, I am rather selective on which posts I read. Sometimes i wish we Mod's could be too Indeed.
Excellently put RZ. I think the main problem with this one is that we have several members (that we specifically know of) who are ill-served by allowing this particular topic to be ignored. So the usual tactic of ignoring it is tantamount to dismissing it as trivial. But I do think you are spot on.
I wish I could get my wireless adapter working for Xbox Live. If I can't I am going to run about 30 feet of Cat 5 along the baseboards.
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle?Why is abbreviated such a long word?If a cow laughed, would milk come out of it's nose?Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?
For our part, we moderators are resolved to run a tighter ship. Statements that were allowed to pass with a warning before will be met with stronger measures in the future. I hope we can continue to walk a fine line between being as fair and non-judgemental as possible, yet strict enough so discussions like these will not feel so necessary.
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