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us Offline prpratt

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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #30 on: April 03, 2013, 07:21:41 PM
Great work, thank you


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #31 on: April 03, 2013, 07:58:50 PM
Very educational, thanks much. This really helps a begineer like myself.
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #32 on: April 03, 2013, 09:03:33 PM
That sort of info is exactly why I am here. Printed and will definitely accompany me for the 2013 boot fair season. 


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #33 on: April 04, 2013, 02:14:54 AM
Nice information! Thank you! :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #34 on: April 04, 2013, 02:59:39 AM
A lot of good information and a lot of nice knives.  :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #35 on: May 10, 2013, 08:59:21 PM
Great!  :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #36 on: September 10, 2013, 08:54:44 PM
was there ever a gunmetal blue pioneer?
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #38 on: September 10, 2013, 11:57:41 PM
Great info, thanks for putting this together!  :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #39 on: September 11, 2013, 12:12:04 AM
was there ever a gunmetal blue pioneer?
Gunmetal like the Cadet? No...take a look ...
http://www.aloxworld.com/AloxWorld/Victorinox-Alox-Pioneer.html
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+Pioneer

So are there different black anodized color versions?
The Pioneer in these 2 images is clearly not the same black as the rest


I do not have a number for the knife, it was part of a set with a watch and a pioneer
the set has a number, but not the knife.

this is what the description of the set says:
This OFFICER'S watch will be delivered in a special packaging with an exclusive pocket knife matching with the dial color and pattern of the OFFICER'S timepiece.
Item Number with assorted knife: 241546.1
(copied from the Victorinox website)

Also on the site it is stated the dial is dark grey.
http://www.victorinox.com/ch/product/Timepieces/Category/Collections/Officer-s/Officer-39-s-Day-Date-Mechanical/241546

So, the knife is matching, and is dark grey?
« Last Edit: September 11, 2013, 12:27:40 AM by microbe »
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #40 on: September 17, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
0.8201.79R Dark grey Pioneer. Limited edition, only available as part of set.
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #41 on: September 19, 2013, 01:55:47 AM
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #42 on: September 06, 2015, 03:04:09 AM
Holy thread necro batman! Has anyone determined if the plain cross gold alox Pioneer was a special run? It looks as if the plain cross model was made at least some point after the +PAT was dropped from the can opener. At least one model was paired with matching brass liners.

This is also an awesome thread that needs more visibility, imo.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 03:06:14 AM by Sazabi »


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Reply #43 on: September 06, 2015, 06:21:04 PM
Holy thread necro batman! Has anyone determined if the plain cross gold alox Pioneer was a special run? It looks as if the plain cross model was made at least some point after the +PAT was dropped from the can opener. At least one model was paired with matching brass liners.

This is also an awesome thread that needs more visibility, imo.

Here are some pictures of it:







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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #44 on: September 28, 2016, 06:01:24 AM
how bout adding on the 2014 release of the black pioneer with red shield, 0.8201.23.


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #45 on: March 02, 2017, 01:27:12 AM
So ... after reading all of the above it seems that my unknown Pioneer is a very rare 1970's * 2220 Ub (USA)


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Reply #46 on: March 02, 2017, 01:34:18 AM
So ... after reading all of the above it seems that my unknown Pioneer is a very rare 1970's * 2220 Ub (USA)
And simply awesome.   :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #47 on: May 22, 2017, 03:18:09 AM
 :nothingtoadd:

But maybe I will eventually  :cheers:
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #48 on: May 22, 2017, 08:20:27 AM
So ... after reading all of the above it seems that my unknown Pioneer is a very rare 1970's * 2220 Ub (USA)
And simply awesome.   :tu:
So ... after reading all of the above it seems that my unknown Pioneer is a very rare 1970's * 2220 Ub (USA)

+1  :like:
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #49 on: May 22, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
Here's a little show and tell video I made about the Pioneers I currently have.
 :cheers:



https://youtu.be/9eYxOfDbBCA
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #50 on: September 21, 2017, 03:38:16 PM
Hello. An acquaintance bought this Pioneer and is concerned about the main blade's alignment. He thinks because it's not centred, it must be defective. I said I think it's normal, given the awl next to it.
 
Should he be concerned? Can I see your Pioneers?



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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #51 on: September 21, 2017, 03:43:35 PM
That's absolutely normal. I'm surprised your acquaintance doesn't realise that if it was straight it would bash into the awl and wouldn't close properly.  :D

Superb Swiss engineering!

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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #52 on: September 21, 2017, 04:51:31 PM
Thanks magentus. that's what I told him but he was still skeptical. so i showed some links of other pioneers and even the Xs. like this one from DLT


http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-t7tzgd0/products/21671/images/68140/victorinox-pioneer-x-top__24676.1461596647.1280.1280.JPG?c=2


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #53 on: September 21, 2017, 04:54:35 PM
Thanks magentus. that's what I told him but he was still skeptical. so i showed some links of other pioneers and even the Xs. like this one from DLT


http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-t7tzgd0/products/21671/images/68140/victorinox-pioneer-x-top__24676.1461596647.1280.1280.JPG?c=2
There's a name for that construction method... let me see if I can find it.


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #54 on: September 21, 2017, 04:58:28 PM
It's called "crinking" and is done on purpose to fit all tools in a smaller package.
In fact it's done so precise that it shouldn't be noticeable when the blade is opened.


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Reply #55 on: September 21, 2017, 05:05:54 PM
It's called "crinking" and is done on purpose to fit all tools in a smaller package.
In fact it's done so precise that it shouldn't be noticeable when the blade is opened.


Extremely helpful, Nick! Thank you  :tu:


I did ask him if there is any scratch on the blade, and he said none. This is one indicator I use if a blade's alignment is not as designed.


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #56 on: September 21, 2017, 05:09:14 PM
It's called "crinking" and is done on purpose to fit all tools in a smaller package.
In fact it's done so precise that it shouldn't be noticeable when the blade is opened.


Extremely helpful, Nick! Thank you  :tu:


I did ask him if there is any scratch on the blade, and he said none. This is one indicator I use if a blade's alignment is not as designed.
With the exception of the combo tool.
This one scratches the blade slightly on all knives I own which have it.
It's confirmed by a handfull of members too.


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #57 on: September 21, 2017, 05:23:02 PM
It's called "crinking" and is done on purpose to fit all tools in a smaller package.
In fact it's done so precise that it shouldn't be noticeable when the blade is opened.


Extremely helpful, Nick! Thank you  :tu:


I did ask him if there is any scratch on the blade, and he said none. This is one indicator I use if a blade's alignment is not as designed.
With the exception of the combo tool.
This one scratches the blade slightly on all knives I own which have it.
It's confirmed by a handfull of members too.


I checked my Golfer and you're right, its blade has scratches where it meets the combo tool  :td:


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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #58 on: September 21, 2017, 05:37:17 PM
Same thing with Cadets and Sportsmans with the file.... and most soldiers that have seen any use, blade rub from the awl
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Re: Victorinox Alox Pioneer - knowledge book
Reply #59 on: September 21, 2017, 05:49:31 PM
Same thing with Cadets and Sportsmans with the file.... and most soldiers that have seen any use, blade rub from the awl


I guess we can call it a SAK character then  :D


 

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