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Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run 6906

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Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« on: April 30, 2010, 08:51:47 PM »
Hi folks. We will have a number of these available. They are Victorinox Factory Made Original. PM or email me if interested, thanks.

T
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 09:23:38 PM »
oo nice

:like:    :MTO:
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 10:30:36 PM »
 :drool:

Give in, buy several Farmer's!!!!!!
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 11:16:11 PM »
pm sent :D
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 12:17:33 AM »
 :drool:

I'm back!!
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 02:32:32 AM »
money , money , money....way I don't have money.....  :ahhh

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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2010, 03:24:04 AM »
DO WANT! Those are gorgeous, wish I had extra money right now... good stuff always comes along when i'm broke  :(
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 04:15:35 PM »
Those look surprisingly good. :)

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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2010, 04:29:48 AM »
PM sent!!! :drool: :tu:

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 Some run from breaks of ice, and answer none:
 And some condemned for a fault alone." -William Shakespeare, King Lear (1608), Act IV, scene 6, line 169
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2010, 04:36:43 AM »

T
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2010, 04:58:57 AM »
Check your PP!! ::)
I also threw in an extra order :angel:

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 Some run from breaks of ice, and answer none:
 And some condemned for a fault alone." -William Shakespeare, King Lear (1608), Act IV, scene 6, line 169
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2010, 06:16:28 AM »
Must admit I am not really digging that brown color that much. Oh well, just have to wait.......

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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2010, 04:38:53 PM »
 :drool: Beautiful

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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 07:13:01 AM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2010, 07:22:15 AM »
Pm sent...

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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 07:31:17 AM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?

Correct.

T
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2010, 12:53:28 PM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?

Correct.
It appears the Limited Edition 2010 Damascus Pioneer will have Hard Anodized Black scales.  Hopefully that was not a typo; if true, it will be another factory first.
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 01:17:19 AM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?

Correct.
It appears the Limited Edition 2010 Damascus Pioneer will have Hard Anodized Black scales.  Hopefully that was not a typo; if true, it will be another factory first.

Hard Anodized??  Or triple hard anodized(hence Scibeer's HAIII designation ;) )?? :think:

"Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall;
 Some run from breaks of ice, and answer none:
 And some condemned for a fault alone." -William Shakespeare, King Lear (1608), Act IV, scene 6, line 169
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2010, 02:53:58 AM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?

Correct.
It appears the Limited Edition 2010 Damascus Pioneer will have Hard Anodized Black scales.  Hopefully that was not a typo; if true, it will be another factory first.

Hard Anodized??  Or triple hard anodized(hence Scibeer's HAIII designation ;) )?? :think:

When it come to 'standards' there is only one HA also known as Type 3.  HAIII is an apparant redundant statement that is an incorrect specification.  There is no such thing as triple hard anodized, it either meets HA spec or not.

Of course people are free to anodize and not follow the standard, or the standard rating system (which happens often), but generally one only does this to mislead their customers. 

I've asked +B if he can clarify the rating for the anodizing, it very well could be a typo, or sloppy specification,  but I'm hoping on a knife with such a hard steel blade they saw fit to also make the rest of the knife a durable as possible.

I hope I won't be disapointed, but there is little information coming direct from Victorinox on this item.
No Life Club Posts: 4,534
Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2010, 12:01:43 PM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?

Correct.
It appears the Limited Edition 2010 Damascus Pioneer will have Hard Anodized Black scales.  Hopefully that was not a typo; if true, it will be another factory first.

Hard Anodized??  Or triple hard anodized(hence Scibeer's HAIII designation ;) )?? :think:

When it come to 'standards' there is only one HA also known as Type 3.  HAIII is an apparant redundant statement that is an incorrect specification.  There is no such thing as triple hard anodized, it either meets HA spec or not.

Of course people are free to anodize and not follow the standard, or the standard rating system (which happens often), but generally one only does this to mislead their customers. 

I've asked +B if he can clarify the rating for the anodizing, it very well could be a typo, or sloppy specification,  but I'm hoping on a knife with such a hard steel blade they saw fit to also make the rest of the knife a durable as possible.

I hope I won't be disapointed, but there is little information coming direct from Victorinox on this item.

Sad news... based on feedback from Roger it's not HA, just the regular Victorinox anodizing.  When it comes to color/finish they have very high quality, but I don't know why they never went for an HA process.   Their Silver wears very nice, maybe they thought that was good enough.
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 12:18:19 PM »
I am going to pass up on this one.

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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2010, 04:51:12 PM »
HA or not, I still must have one of those. Hopefully, Felinevet will manage to get them.

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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2010, 06:40:26 PM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?

Correct.
It appears the Limited Edition 2010 Damascus Pioneer will have Hard Anodized Black scales.  Hopefully that was not a typo; if true, it will be another factory first.

Hard Anodized??  Or triple hard anodized(hence Scibeer's HAIII designation ;) )?? :think:

When it come to 'standards' there is only one HA also known as Type 3.  HAIII is an apparant redundant statement that is an incorrect specification.  There is no such thing as triple hard anodized, it either meets HA spec or not.

Of course people are free to anodize and not follow the standard, or the standard rating system (which happens often), but generally one only does this to mislead their customers. 

I've asked +B if he can clarify the rating for the anodizing, it very well could be a typo, or sloppy specification,  but I'm hoping on a knife with such a hard steel blade they saw fit to also make the rest of the knife a durable as possible.

I hope I won't be disapointed, but there is little information coming direct from Victorinox on this item.

Sad news... based on feedback from Roger it's not HA, just the regular Victorinox anodizing.  When it comes to color/finish they have very high quality, but I don't know why they never went for an HA process.   Their Silver wears very nice, maybe they thought that was good enough.

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that proper type 3 anodising doesn't lend itself well to many dyes, hence the choice of Scibeers scale colour I'm guessing.  So if you want red, blue, gold etc it won't be in real type 3. :-\

Try not to be the person who blunders around and causes everyone else to get out the way.  Everyone else thinks you're a utter...
Banner Member No Life Club Posts: 1,524
Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2010, 06:55:49 PM »
The Brown Alox Pioneers are in and on the way to those who have already ordered. I still have some left if anyone else is interested.  :gimme:

T
No Life Club Posts: 4,534
Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2010, 07:06:21 PM »
Just curious, the factory colours on Alox knives are all type 2 (not hard) anodized right?

Correct.
It appears the Limited Edition 2010 Damascus Pioneer will have Hard Anodized Black scales.  Hopefully that was not a typo; if true, it will be another factory first.

Hard Anodized??  Or triple hard anodized(hence Scibeer's HAIII designation ;) )?? :think:

When it come to 'standards' there is only one HA also known as Type 3.  HAIII is an apparant redundant statement that is an incorrect specification.  There is no such thing as triple hard anodized, it either meets HA spec or not.

Of course people are free to anodize and not follow the standard, or the standard rating system (which happens often), but generally one only does this to mislead their customers. 

I've asked +B if he can clarify the rating for the anodizing, it very well could be a typo, or sloppy specification,  but I'm hoping on a knife with such a hard steel blade they saw fit to also make the rest of the knife a durable as possible.

I hope I won't be disapointed, but there is little information coming direct from Victorinox on this item.

Sad news... based on feedback from Roger it's not HA, just the regular Victorinox anodizing.  When it comes to color/finish they have very high quality, but I don't know why they never went for an HA process.   Their Silver wears very nice, maybe they thought that was good enough.

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that proper type 3 anodising doesn't lend itself well to many dyes, hence the choice of Scibeers scale colour I'm guessing.  So if you want red, blue, gold etc it won't be in real type 3. :-\
Ya, you can't get colored HA, but Black, or even better Natural, would be fine.  Since this Damascus knife is Black they could have (and should have)done HA for it.
No Life Club Posts: 4,534
Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 07:08:20 PM »
I am going to pass up on this one.

Why is that?  I think you might change your mind. 

I wish Victorinox would give more information on when they will release some to the US market.
Banner Member No Life Club Posts: 1,524
Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2010, 07:33:09 PM »
I am going to pass up on this one.

Why is that?  I think you might change your mind. 

I wish Victorinox would give more information on when they will release some to the US market.
I have checked with my rep and asked when they will be available.

T
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2010, 09:18:48 PM »
The Brown Alox Pioneers are in and on the way to those who have already ordered. I still have some left if anyone else is interested.  :gimme:

Tim,

Payment is in the mail.   :cheers:  DC# 0309 2880 0000 8728 9787

Sometimes change is a good thing, other times not so much!
Banner Member No Life Club Posts: 1,524
Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2010, 09:54:11 PM »
The Brown Alox Pioneers are in and on the way to those who have already ordered. I still have some left if anyone else is interested.  :gimme:

Tim,

Payment is in the mail.   :cheers:  DC# 0309 2880 0000 8728 9787
:cheers: Great, thanks, Tim.

T
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Re: Brown Alox Pioneers - Special Limited Run
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2010, 10:34:06 PM »
Just another note about anodizing.  Hard Anodizing is also called type 3 anodizing, so yes, HA3 or HAIII is redundant.  You can get it in colours, such as gold, blue, purple etc, but the colours are much darker usually and not as bright and vibrant as type 2 (something to do with how the dies interact during anodizing etc, but don't quote me on that).

In any case, type 3 is a lot more durable than type 2, but just usually doesn't look as nice initially.  So I guess it's all about looks on the store shelf for Victorinox knives.  I mean, it's not like Celidor looks that good after heavy use.

 :D

 

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