Thanks guys, yea GG got me started by hooking me up with Atwoods and since then it's been growing and evolving. I am probably not addicted as much as some other folks but I got the bug pretty bad. There is always a pocket tool on me and never goes unused. I actually have not used the pocket wrench much, don't know why cause it's no bigger than the Piranha or the WingNut. Guess I am going to have to just go ahead and carry the thing, it certainly has more nut sizes to choose from,