First up, it's about 165 pounds Secondly, we do have a need for heavy woods tool's due to the fact the even dead, standing wood, will usually be wet, and while I understand your rambo quote, at least as far as I'm concered, a big blade (Kukri in my case) is worth it's weight it gold
Well I backpack/cycle everywhere, And I still feel that a heavy cutting tool, is a justified weight, as you can use them to make camp equipment instead of carrying them
Don't get me wrong I still travel light it's just these day's I know a bit more so I can carry a bit less
I bet it was, once he's old enough I'd like my boy to be in the cubs/scout's (even though there not aloud knives any more )
Quote from: micky d on June 20, 2008, 07:38:57 PMI bet it was, once he's old enough I'd like my boy to be in the cubs/scout's (even though there not aloud knives any more )Scouting is a great opportunity for a father and son to spend quality time together. Some of the best memories of my childhood are the Scout trips with my Dad.Without plenty of adults volunteering their time, the Scouts wouldn't exist..
I was in Scouts and enjoyed it. But yes that moral agenda can be a bit heavy. I think it kind of varies from one troop to the other. Speaking of father-son bonding I got a great book for my kids, "The Dangerous Book for Kids". Check it out on Amazon. You might get a kick out of it.
I was in Scouts and enjoyed it. But yes that moral agenda can be a bit heavy. I think it kind of varies from one troop to the other.
As for the Christian aspects of Scouting, that will vary greatly from Troop to Troop even in the same local Council.There are Scouts all over the world reflecting whatever the local religions may be: Hindu, Bahai, Buddhist, etc.My Troop was based at a Protestant church, but we had Catholic, Jewish, Unitarian, and agnostic scouts..
Quote from: ringzero on June 21, 2008, 09:56:22 PMAs for the Christian aspects of Scouting, that will vary greatly from Troop to Troop even in the same local Council.There are Scouts all over the world reflecting whatever the local religions may be: Hindu, Bahai, Buddhist, etc.My Troop was based at a Protestant church, but we had Catholic, Jewish, Unitarian, and agnostic scouts..It certainly does vary. My Boy Scout troop was based at a VFW post. There were lots of lessons in honesty and morality, but not so much religion. I never really thought about that--if there had been that religious influence, I probably would not have stayed around nearly as long as I did, as I am an agnostic.
yep i respect that opinion too,its everymans freedom of choise and thats the way it should be.i just happen to think there aint no higher powers,no fate.theres just you and what u choose to do and what u agree to do,and choises u cant make yourself if youre lookin at the barrel of a gun,physically or mentally.i dont believe a word in 2000 yrs old book but hey if u do,im not the hater.i may be intrested of things u arent,and i may have my own code of honour,and u have your own and that aint no problem,we just have to get along without big conflicts.
Quote from: NutSAK on June 24, 2008, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: ringzero on June 21, 2008, 09:56:22 PMAs for the Christian aspects of Scouting, that will vary greatly from Troop to Troop even in the same local Council.There are Scouts all over the world reflecting whatever the local religions may be: Hindu, Bahai, Buddhist, etc.My Troop was based at a Protestant church, but we had Catholic, Jewish, Unitarian, and agnostic scouts..It certainly does vary. My Boy Scout troop was based at a VFW post. There were lots of lessons in honesty and morality, but not so much religion. I never really thought about that--if there had been that religious influence, I probably would not have stayed around nearly as long as I did, as I am an agnostic.IMHO, the function of religion in Scouting is similar to the function of religion in Alcoholics Anonymous.Longtime AA members will tell you how important it is that they acknowledge the existence of some Power beyond our mundane human existence.The details of whatever religion is involved aren't that important, just the acceptance that there exists some Higher Power. Acceptance of a Higher Power helps to curb human arrogance and wantoness, and serves as a basic foundation for morality..
Quote from: ringzero on June 24, 2008, 10:35:05 PMQuote from: NutSAK on June 24, 2008, 06:37:03 PMQuote from: ringzero on June 21, 2008, 09:56:22 PMAs for the Christian aspects of Scouting, that will vary greatly from Troop to Troop even in the same local Council.There are Scouts all over the world reflecting whatever the local religions may be: Hindu, Bahai, Buddhist, etc.My Troop was based at a Protestant church, but we had Catholic, Jewish, Unitarian, and agnostic scouts..It certainly does vary. My Boy Scout troop was based at a VFW post. There were lots of lessons in honesty and morality, but not so much religion. I never really thought about that--if there had been that religious influence, I probably would not have stayed around nearly as long as I did, as I am an agnostic.IMHO, the function of religion in Scouting is similar to the function of religion in Alcoholics Anonymous.Longtime AA members will tell you how important it is that they acknowledge the existence of some Power beyond our mundane human existence.The details of whatever religion is involved aren't that important, just the acceptance that there exists some Higher Power. Acceptance of a Higher Power helps to curb human arrogance and wantoness, and serves as a basic foundation for morality..IMHO that is the function of religion period, not just the function in Boy Scouts. IMHO (again) The Boy Scouts should be a place for learning, not to help kids "change direction", as in AA.
"Unfortunately, nowadays many boys who enter Scouting do need a change of direction.Many boys have no father present in their lives and some have never even met their fathers. Many have had little or no consistent training in basic morality, honesty, and respect for others. Boy Scouts can change some of these boys lives - some, not all."
Quote"Unfortunately, nowadays many boys who enter Scouting do need a change of direction.Many boys have no father present in their lives and some have never even met their fathers. Many have had little or no consistent training in basic morality, honesty, and respect for others. Boy Scouts can change some of these boys lives - some, not all."I don't see why you have to lump those of us who knew & had fathers in the "moral, honest & respectful" camp,We're perfectly capable of being utterly indecent human beings!
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