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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #30 on: September 19, 2007, 10:59:24 PM
Can I be the first to propose that this is officially the weirdest and yet funniest  thread on this site. :cheers:

(starts to clear tea from keyboard, previously coughed from my mouth whilst laughing out loud) :oops:



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Reply #31 on: September 20, 2007, 04:12:16 AM
Yep...Micky's right; just wait until the Holiday Edition threads come out,when we're all full of Christmas cheer.Be sure to tell all your friends.
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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #32 on: September 20, 2007, 04:13:44 AM
Wait... you're from Ohio?  I'm no longer talking to you!
                    Y'all should be thanking us.Remember The Toledo War? You got the UP,and we got.....well,we got Toledo.

For our northern neighbors, friends across the ocean and around the world who have no clue in re this Ohio/Michigan reference:

In the early part of the 19th century, Toledo was a swampy settlement on the shores of Lake Erie in a disputed border area between the states of Ohio and Michigan.  Neither side was much interested in what the locals called “Frogtown” until a newly completed canal made it possible for Toledo to become a major Great Lakes port.  

Michigan  sent a party of surveyors to secure its claim to Toledo.  When an Ohio sheriff attempted to arrest them, he was stabbed in the knee by One Stickney, whose brother, Two Stickney, was also in the Michigan group.  Upon learning the surveyors were languishing in an Ohio lockup, the Michigan governor ordered his State Militia to rescue them, by force of arms, if necessary.

The Michigan men set forth with muskets in hand from Ann Arbor, a short distance from the disputed area, but it took them a week to get there because of stopping at every tavern en route.  When Ohio authorities learned of the approaching Michiganders, it mobilized its militia to defend what they considered their border.  Both arrived at the area of contention at the same time, primed for battle, but due to thick brush, heavy mist and extreme drunkenness, were unable to find each other.

At this point, the Federal Government intervened.  A settlement was worked out.  Michigan gave up its claim to Toledo, which did become a major port, compensated by the Upper Penninsula, one of the most beautiful places on earth, detached from Wisconsin, at the time helpless to prevent it.  There remains an unsatisfied claim against Michigan with regards to an Ohio Pig who disappeared under suspicious circumstances.

To this day, the Ohio/Michigan feud has been played out by morons from both states hurling stupid and not really good natured epithets at each other, and the OSU-Michigan football rivalry.  Not one fan in 100,000 has the slightest idea of how all this started.            

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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #33 on: September 20, 2007, 04:24:27 AM
I love history... ;D


For another skirmish that fell through the cracks....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens

This happened about 60 years ago about 45 minutes south of here.
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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #34 on: September 20, 2007, 05:27:54 AM
At this point, the Federal Government intervened.  A settlement was worked out.  Michigan gave up its claim to Toledo, which did become a major port, compensated by the Upper Penninsula, one of the most beautiful places on earth......

That's what ya call a case of losing the battle, but winning the war!  :grin:

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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #35 on: September 20, 2007, 05:31:02 AM
At this point, the Federal Government intervened.  A settlement was worked out.  Michigan gave up its claim to Toledo, which did become a major port, compensated by the Upper Penninsula, one of the most beautiful places on earth......

That's what ya call a case of losing the battle, but winning the war!  :grin:

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Reply #36 on: September 20, 2007, 05:33:13 AM
I love history... ;D


For another skirmish that fell through the cracks....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens

This happened about 60 years ago about 45 minutes south of here.
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Reply #37 on: September 20, 2007, 07:38:04 AM
Wait... you're from Ohio?  I'm no longer talking to you!
                    Y'all should be thanking us.Remember The Toledo War? You got the UP,and we got.....well,we got Toledo.

Wouldn't a Buckeye think that that's a good deal? :P
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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #38 on: September 20, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
Wait... you're from Ohio?  I'm no longer talking to you!
                    Y'all should be thanking us.Remember The Toledo War? You got the UP,and we got.....well,we got Toledo.

Wouldn't a Buckeye think that that's a good deal? :P

(For the rest of the world:  a Buckeye is someone who lives in the state of Ohio.  That comes from a native tree which produces a useless nut.  Draw your own conclusions).

Once, Toledo was a good deal, but lately has come on hard times in the current Ohioeconomy.  Unlike the Upper Penninsula of Michigan, however, it never was much fun, just a good, solid working class town.  Probably its best known attraction is Tony Packo's restaurant which, thanks to Klinger of television's "MASH," was reputed to serve the best Kielbasa.  IMHO, it was okay, but I've had better in Toledo, let alone other Polish neighborhoods in Ohio and elsewhere.  Another item of interest; Toledo was home port for the ore ship "Edmund Fitzgerald," which in 1975 sunk into Lake Superior with all hands, and is commemorated largely because of a song and beer named it its memory.  I knew a lake sailor who actually worked as a crew member on that ship, but not at the time it went down.   

As a native Buckeye, I don't care where anything is or what state claims the real estate.
I root for OSU football, but that's as far as I participate in this ludicrous rivalry.  Kicking Michigan's butt on the football field is good enough for me.
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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #39 on: September 20, 2007, 06:07:59 PM
That's quite the lesson!  All I knew about was Les Nessman's five Buckeye News Hawk Awards!

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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #40 on: September 20, 2007, 06:12:50 PM
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Reply #41 on: September 20, 2007, 06:21:10 PM
Wait... you're from Ohio?  I'm no longer talking to you!
                    Y'all should be thanking us.Remember The Toledo War? You got the UP,and we got.....well,we got Toledo.

Wouldn't a Buckeye think that that's a good deal? :P

(For the rest of the world:  a Buckeye is someone who lives in the state of Ohio.  That comes from a native tree which produces a useless nut.  Draw your own conclusions).

Once, Toledo was a good deal, but lately has come on hard times in the current economy.  Unlike the Upper Penninsula of Michigan, however it never was much fun, just a good, solid working class town.  Probably its best known attraction is Tony Packo's restaurant which, thanks to Klinger of television's "MASH," was reputed to serve the best Kielbasa.  IMHO, it was okay, but I've had better in Toledo, let alone other Polish neighborhoods in Ohio and elsewhere.  Another item of interest; Toledo was home port for the ore ship "Edmund Fitzgerald," which in 1975 sunk into Lake Superior with all hands, and is commemorated largely because of a song and beer named it its memory.  I knew a lake sailor who actually work as a crew member on that ship, but not at the time it went down.  

As a native Buckeye, I don't care where anything is or what state claims the real estate.
I root for OSU football, but that's as far I participate in this ludicrous rivalry.  Kicking Michigan's butt on the football field is good enough for me.

You seem to know quite a bit!  You must have went to school outside of Ohio :P
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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #42 on: September 20, 2007, 06:22:41 PM
I root for OSU football, but that's as far I participate in this ludicrous rivalry.  Kicking Michigan's butt on the football field is good enough for me.

Hey! Um... hrm... err... I can't even respond with Michigan sucking this year... damn...
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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #43 on: September 20, 2007, 09:19:10 PM
Wait... you're from Ohio?  I'm no longer talking to you!
                    Y'all should be thanking us.Remember The Toledo War? You got the UP,and we got.....well,we got Toledo.

Wouldn't a Buckeye think that that's a good deal? :P

(For the rest of the world:  a Buckeye is someone who lives in the state of Ohio.  That comes from a native tree which produces a useless nut.  Draw your own conclusions).

Once, Toledo was a good deal, but lately has come on hard times in the current economy.  Unlike the Upper Penninsula of Michigan, however it never was much fun, just a good, solid working class town.  Probably its best known attraction is Tony Packo's restaurant which, thanks to Klinger of television's "MASH," was reputed to serve the best Kielbasa.  IMHO, it was okay, but I've had better in Toledo, let alone other Polish neighborhoods in Ohio and elsewhere.  Another item of interest; Toledo was home port for the ore ship "Edmund Fitzgerald," which in 1975 sunk into Lake Superior with all hands, and is commemorated largely because of a song and beer named it its memory.  I knew a lake sailor who actually work as a crew member on that ship, but not at the time it went down.  

As a native Buckeye, I don't care where anything is or what state claims the real estate.
I root for OSU football, but that's as far I participate in this ludicrous rivalry.  Kicking Michigan's butt on the football field is good enough for me.

You seem to know quite a bit!  You must have went to school outside of Ohio :P

Geography has much to do with how much a typical Buckeye knows about this incident.  Any dullard school dropout from Northwest Ohio knows about the Toledo war.  Any Phd who grew up in Cinncinnati never heard of it.  I, a Clevelander repotted in Columbus, learned of it for the first from a Civil War re-enacter now living in Dayton who spent a lifetime researching Ohio history.     

I've been informed that a book about the Toledo war has been published, but haven't got around to tracking it down.   

 


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Re: The awl. Why??
Reply #44 on: September 21, 2007, 02:57:58 AM
Geography has much to do with how much a typical Buckeye knows about this incident.  Any dullard school dropout from Northwest Ohio knows about the Toledo war.  Any Phd who grew up in Cinncinnati never heard of it.  I, a Clevelander repotted in Columbus, learned of it for the first from a Civil War re-enacter now living in Dayton who spent a lifetime researching Ohio history.     
 

Hey!! I'm going to be in the (north) Columbus area next week. I'll be passing right by Toledo. Hopefully the hostilities will not flare up again until I'm back home!  ;)



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Reply #45 on: September 21, 2007, 03:59:30 AM
Wait... you're from Ohio?  I'm no longer talking to you!
                    Y'all should be thanking us.Remember The Toledo War? You got the UP,and we got.....well,we got Toledo.

Wouldn't a Buckeye think that that's a good deal? :P

(For the rest of the world:  a Buckeye is someone who lives in the state of Ohio.  That comes from a native tree which produces a useless nut.  Draw your own conclusions).

Once, Toledo was a good deal, but lately has come on hard times in the current economy.  Unlike the Upper Penninsula of Michigan, however it never was much fun, just a good, solid working class town.  Probably its best known attraction is Tony Packo's restaurant which, thanks to Klinger of television's "MASH," was reputed to serve the best Kielbasa.  IMHO, it was okay, but I've had better in Toledo, let alone other Polish neighborhoods in Ohio and elsewhere.  Another item of interest; Toledo was home port for the ore ship "Edmund Fitzgerald," which in 1975 sunk into Lake Superior with all hands, and is commemorated largely because of a song and beer named it its memory.  I knew a lake sailor who actually work as a crew member on that ship, but not at the time it went down.  

As a native Buckeye, I don't care where anything is or what state claims the real estate.
I root for OSU football, but that's as far I participate in this ludicrous rivalry.  Kicking Michigan's butt on the football field is good enough for me.

You seem to know quite a bit!  You must have went to school outside of Ohio :P
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Reply #46 on: September 21, 2007, 04:03:38 AM
Geography has much to do with how much a typical Buckeye knows about this incident.  Any dullard school dropout from Northwest Ohio knows about the Toledo war.  Any Phd who grew up in Cinncinnati never heard of it.  I, a Clevelander repotted in Columbus, learned of it for the first from a Civil War re-enacter now living in Dayton who spent a lifetime researching Ohio history.     
 

Hey!! I'm going to be in the (north) Columbus area next week. I'll be passing right by Toledo. Hopefully the hostilities will not flare up again until I'm back home!  ;)
                    Just make sure your passport and visa are in order :D ;D
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Reply #47 on: September 21, 2007, 06:23:47 AM
Wate just a sekund there,Uhia skools are vury gud :grin:

Hey... U spel like u went to skool n suthern michigan with me :)
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Reply #48 on: September 21, 2007, 06:59:57 PM
Wate just a sekund there,Uhia skools are vury gud :grin:

Hey... U spel like u went to skool n suthern michigan with me :)
                    Thats bekauze yore teechers wer ejukated in Uhia skools :D ;D :cheers:
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