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ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions

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ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
on: October 02, 2007, 02:01:30 AM
Well I've had the SpyderWrench for a few days now, and I got the ByrdWrench today, and I have to say, as unimpressed with the SW as I was, I am that much more so with the BW.  Frankly, the BW looks and feels like a $20 tool at best, not the $80 tool they are passing it off as.

The SW I feel was worth the money I paid, but mostly since it is a fantastic design, and an important part of multitool evolution.  I bought it more as a collection piece rather than a user. 

Overall the design that goes into both versions is functional, and the few things it does, it will do as good or better than many other tools- the adjustable wrench is nice, the pliers are sturdy, although in the "upper" part of the slip joint, the pliers are a little loose.  The screwdrivers are nice, but by the time you fold out the tool, remove the file, pull out the bit and place it in the end, you could have done the job with a dozen other tools and been on your way already.

The diamond file on the SW has a phillips screwdriver on one end and a flathead on the other, which helps the screwdriver situation, but the BW doesn't have that option.  It's not a diamond file, and it's flat on one and and pinted on the other.  It looks like Sal had some fun dropping screws into a wood chipper and this is what came out the other side.

Of course, if you need an adjustable wrench, I guess this is your only option... oh wait, there's the CRKT Cricket at about half the price....

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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #1 on: October 02, 2007, 03:03:10 AM
Of course, if you need an adjustable wrench, I guess this is your only option... oh wait, there's the CRKT Cricket at about half the price....

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You mean Guppie?


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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #2 on: October 02, 2007, 03:07:08 AM
Sorry to hear that about the BW.  I was wondering why the BW price was so close to the current SW price considering that the SW blade steel wasn't much better.


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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #3 on: October 02, 2007, 09:34:16 AM
That's a shame I was hoping that it would be something a bit special, not over priced tat :(

Nice honest review though, thanks :)
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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #4 on: October 02, 2007, 02:01:05 PM
Of course, if you need an adjustable wrench, I guess this is your only option... oh wait, there's the CRKT Cricket at about half the price....

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You mean Guppie?

That's exactly what I mean, sorry.  A friend of mine calls all CRKT's "Crickets" and I guess I had that stuck in my head when I posted it!

I am glad I got the BW when I did.  We got a good deal from EDCDepot.com on them and as I said, for a collector, these are important pieces to have.  I'll probably pick up one of the new Taiwan made SW's sometime just to have the set.

Just for teh heck of it I tried a "blind" test last night.  I removed the files (a dead giveaway), closed my eyes and picked each of them up, played with the pliers etc and could not say which one was which with any accuracy.  I also avoided the blades, as that also would have soured the test because of the different shaped holes, but I can guarantee that the feel of the blade opening and the sturdiness of the lock kicking into place would have also made a big difference.  But, as far as the pliers go, they are virtually identical in function and feel.

Would I pay the extra for a Spyder over a Byrd?  Possibly, except that I don't think the new SW comes with a diamond file either, which is a glaring omission in my books, but then I've never made any secret of my preference for a diamond file.  The blade isn't bad on the BW- it's on par with many other multitool blades, so it's really not anything to complain about.

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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #5 on: October 02, 2007, 05:18:40 PM
...Possibly, except that I don't think the new SW comes with a diamond file either, which is a glaring omission in my books, but then I've never made any secret of my preference for a diamond file. 

The new SpydeRench has a diamond file. http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,1995.0.html  The ByrdRench has a rasp.

...as unimpressed with the SW as I was, I am that much more so with the BW.  Frankly, the BW looks and feels like a $20 tool at best, not the $80 tool they are passing it off as.

When comparing the new SpydeRench to photos of the original SpydeRench and Tom's photos of the ByrdRench (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,745.0.html) I don't see much difference.  Is the assembly not as good on the ByrdRench?  Can you elaborate a bit?




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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #6 on: October 02, 2007, 05:30:26 PM
Of course, if you need an adjustable wrench, I guess this is your only option... oh wait, there's the CRKT Cricket at about half the price....

I don't think that the CRKT Guppie (Cricket) is a good option.  There's good reason that the Guppie is less expensive.  In my opinion, the wrench on the Guppie has no leverage and is poorly constructed.  One interesting feature of the SpydeRench/new SpydeRench/ByrdRench is that the wrench can be used with the handle fully extended (last photo), providing more leverage.



But I do think that the SpydeRench is more toy than tool.  In my opinion, carrying a regular spanner would be more practical than the SpydeRench, new SpydeRench, ByrdRench, or the Guppie.  The multi-tool wrenches don't open very wide.  A similar sized regular spanner would be small and easy to carry in a pocket.

When comparing the new SpydeRench or ByrdRench to the Original SpydeRench it may be interesting to note whether the "improvements" actually fix some of the original complaints about the Spyderench (e.g. retention spring falls out, bits fall out easily, etc).
« Last Edit: October 02, 2007, 05:59:11 PM by supratentorial »


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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #7 on: October 03, 2007, 02:59:27 AM
I didn't have any spanners with a 1/2" capacity like the CRKT Guppie or a 9/16" capacity like the SpydeRench but here's a photo of a small spanner next to a SpydeRench for comparison.  Craftsman sells a 4" adjustable wrench with a 1/2" capacity. 

....a small adjustable wrench (not necessarily vintage  :P ) and a PST or a SAK would take up about the same pocket space as the SpydeRench.

 

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« Last Edit: October 03, 2007, 03:36:10 AM by supratentorial »


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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #8 on: October 03, 2007, 12:59:09 PM
I didn't have any spanners with a 1/2" capacity like the CRKT Guppie or a 9/16" capacity like the SpydeRench but here's a photo of a small spanner next to a SpydeRench for comparison.  Craftsman sells a 4" adjustable wrench with a 1/2" capacity. 

....a small adjustable wrench (not necessarily vintage  :P ) and a PST or a SAK would take up about the same pocket space as the SpydeRench.

 

I have one of those wrenches!!  My grandad recently passed away and left me all his tools.  Some of his wrenches look quite old and I was going to do a topic on them to see if anyone knew anything about them.
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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #9 on: October 03, 2007, 04:50:00 PM
I have one of those wrenches!!  My grandad recently passed away and left me all his tools.  Some of his wrenches look quite old and I was going to do a topic on them to see if anyone knew anything about them.

My condolences.

I’m actually much more of a tool fanatic then a multi-tool fanatic—mostly interested in planes and other woodworking tools.  I also inherited a large number of antique tools from my grandparents.  I also buy some antique tools on ebay and elsewhere.  I don’t remember where I bought the wrench—maybe on ebay.  It’s an old Frank Mossberg A-1 bicycle wrench, patented in 1900 and 1902. 

I’d be interested in seeing photos of some of the old tools you inherited. I'll keep an eye out for the new topic.


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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #10 on: October 04, 2007, 12:36:13 AM
I have one of those wrenches!!  My grandad recently passed away and left me all his tools.  Some of his wrenches look quite old and I was going to do a topic on them to see if anyone knew anything about them.

My condolences.

I’m actually much more of a tool fanatic then a multi-tool fanatic—mostly interested in planes and other woodworking tools.  I also inherited a large number of antique tools from my grandparents.  I also buy some antique tools on ebay and elsewhere.  I don’t remember where I bought the wrench—maybe on ebay.  It’s an old Frank Mossberg A-1 bicycle wrench, patented in 1900 and 1902. 

I’d be interested in seeing photos of some of the old tools you inherited. I'll keep an eye out for the new topic.


I will definitely get some pics up soon and I will PM you when I do so.  Would be great to know more about them.

Sorry to completely go off topic btw.  ::)  :)
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Re: ByrdWrench and SpyderWrench initial impressions
Reply #11 on: October 04, 2007, 03:35:45 AM
I'm looking forward to the old tool topic as well Benner!
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