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Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier

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Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
on: April 19, 2011, 01:03:43 PM
Here is the new Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier.
Looks very nice. Will have mine soon.
Other soldiers coming soon.






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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 04:35:59 PM
Update.
Here are the other Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Soldier colours coming soon.
Standard blades or blades with custom file work and year stamp.




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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 07:14:53 PM
Only problem is they are Pioneer's not Soldiers.  :cry:


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
Only problem is they are Pioneer's not Soldiers.  :cry:

Swiss Bianco is selling them as 1961-2011 soldiers that's all I know?


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
Yep, wish they were actual soldiers too!
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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 07:47:50 PM
Soldiers with new logo :think: or pioneers with no keyring :D but at the bade he writes it's an soldier so these are Swissbianco new logo soldiers I think.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 07:57:06 PM
Just managed to get three different colours.  :salute:
They are now all sold out.
Only a few Silver left so don't wait long. The first run of those was only 35pcs.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 08:15:34 PM
The Soldier/Pioneer nomenclature used by +B is based on the set of SAK features, rather than scales. Kind of like VSAKCS Farmer is still a Farmer, even though it has military scales. 
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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 10:25:44 PM
Well the colors are nice; I really like that new Splash Design I think that one looks the best.  T

The etching on the blade is kind of boring though, not befitting a proper 50th Anniversary commemorative knife.  The use of the Swiss Sheild I feel is very important to demark a Swiss Soldier's Knife, but +B is free to name them as he wishes.  It's certainly a good idea to commemorate the 50th anniversary even if the knife has now been retired as the 1961 redesign was a significant milestone for the Swiss Soldier's Knife.  I also feel the special colors should be left off any commemorative knife, so I guess I feel this series looks nice I feel it is just inappropriately designed for a 50 year commemorative. 

No matter; if they are all sold out I won't have a chance to get one for a while.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 11:21:33 PM
Only problem is they are Pioneer's not Soldiers.  :cry:
Indeed..."Soldier" is unlucky name for this knife - no Swiss Shield but new logo, plate on back, no stamp on silver model...

It seems to me that only "no keyring" is Soldier property :oops:


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 11:28:35 PM
Pioneer with no keyring :-\


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 08:42:36 AM
Beautiful colors 8)
10 & 10F :gimme:
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 10:22:51 AM
To me this is a Pioneer with no key ring. There are other alox knives with no key ring eg electricians harvesters etc. To me what identifies a soldier is the shield and the date on the blade. If it doesn't have those then its not really a soldier in my eyes.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #13 on: April 20, 2011, 12:32:16 PM
The coloured knives marked with 'F' do have date stamped blades.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #14 on: April 20, 2011, 07:47:56 PM
The coloured knives marked with 'F' do have date stamped blades.
Those that have the date, just have random years from left over parts, just like many other Alox knives.  The stamp is not consistent between the knives and don't indicate the year off issue or anything, they are just there because of the parts that were available.  Since the stamp is inconsistent and the knives in the series are inconsistent in their inclusion it's actually just another point to illustrate the series has issues.  They are all very nice and unique, but not in a way that is appropriate for this commemorative.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #15 on: April 20, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
To me this is a Pioneer with no key ring. There are other alox knives with no key ring eg electricians harvesters etc. To me what identifies a soldier is the shield and the date on the blade. If it doesn't have those then its not really a soldier in my eyes.

I agree.
My latest knife on the way to me has the shield on it, but it's not a soldier!
It's a Farmer.  :salute:




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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #16 on: April 20, 2011, 08:47:34 PM
The coloured knives marked with 'F' do have date stamped blades.
Those that have the date, just have random years from left over parts, just like many other Alox knives.  The stamp is not consistent between the knives and don't indicate the year off issue or anything, they are just there because of the parts that were available.  Since the stamp is inconsistent and the knives in the series are inconsistent in their inclusion it's actually just another point to illustrate the series has issues.  They are all very nice and unique, but not in a way that is appropriate for this commemorative.

Thanks for the info.  :salute:
I did not know that as i've not seen them in person yet and will not get all mine until next week.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #17 on: April 20, 2011, 09:57:23 PM
The coloured knives marked with 'F' do have date stamped blades.
Those that have the date, just have random years from left over parts, just like many other Alox knives.  The stamp is not consistent between the knives and don't indicate the year off issue or anything, they are just there because of the parts that were available.  Since the stamp is inconsistent and the knives in the series are inconsistent in their inclusion it's actually just another point to illustrate the series has issues.  They are all very nice and unique, but not in a way that is appropriate for this commemorative.

Thanks for the info.  :salute:
I did not know that as i've not seen them in person yet and will not get all mine until next week.
All of the year stamps are "08" - the last year military issue alox Soldiers were produced.
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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 10:13:29 PM
The coloured knives marked with 'F' do have date stamped blades.
Those that have the date, just have random years from left over parts, just like many other Alox knives.  The stamp is not consistent between the knives and don't indicate the year off issue or anything, they are just there because of the parts that were available.  Since the stamp is inconsistent and the knives in the series are inconsistent in their inclusion it's actually just another point to illustrate the series has issues.  They are all very nice and unique, but not in a way that is appropriate for this commemorative.

Thanks for the info.  :salute:
I did not know that as i've not seen them in person yet and will not get all mine until next week.
All of the year stamps are "08" - the last year military issue alox Soldiers were produced.


Just seen the updated photos from +B also.
I really like them myself.
I went for three colours with the standard blades.




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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #19 on: April 21, 2011, 12:21:33 AM
These are mine on the way for my personal collection.
Roger's SAKs1.jpg
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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #20 on: April 21, 2011, 01:57:05 AM
The coloured knives marked with 'F' do have date stamped blades.
Those that have the date, just have random years from left over parts, just like many other Alox knives.  The stamp is not consistent between the knives and don't indicate the year off issue or anything, they are just there because of the parts that were available.  Since the stamp is inconsistent and the knives in the series are inconsistent in their inclusion it's actually just another point to illustrate the series has issues.  They are all very nice and unique, but not in a way that is appropriate for this commemorative.

Thanks for the info.  :salute:
I did not know that as i've not seen them in person yet and will not get all mine until next week.
All of the year stamps are "08" - the last year military issue alox Soldiers were produced.
If that's true I stand corrected, but the images I saw showed otherwise, and it's not so important since it's use would still be inconsistent.  For some reason the images appear to have been removed, so that's pretty strange.  I can only go by what I've seen.  Anyway they are nice, it's great if people love them, but I stand by my points.  There might be more, and maybe the samples he had pictured were not part of his official offering.  If anyone saved the original pictures, please send me them in a PM, so they can be documented.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #21 on: April 21, 2011, 01:59:51 AM
To me this is a Pioneer with no key ring. There are other alox knives with no key ring eg electricians harvesters etc. To me what identifies a soldier is the shield and the date on the blade. If it doesn't have those then its not really a soldier in my eyes.

I agree.
My latest knife on the way to me has the shield on it, but it's not a soldier!
It's a Farmer.  :salute:

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Very Nice Knife!

Just because they have used the Swiss Sheild on another knife (a special limited edition at that), and there have been a few, does not change it's significance to the Soldiers' Knife.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #22 on: April 21, 2011, 04:19:08 AM
The coloured knives marked with 'F' do have date stamped blades.
Those that have the date, just have random years from left over parts, just like many other Alox knives.  The stamp is not consistent between the knives and don't indicate the year off issue or anything, they are just there because of the parts that were available.  Since the stamp is inconsistent and the knives in the series are inconsistent in their inclusion it's actually just another point to illustrate the series has issues.  They are all very nice and unique, but not in a way that is appropriate for this commemorative.
:salute:


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #23 on: April 21, 2011, 11:56:20 AM
These are mine on the way for my personal collection.

Very nice! I've also got one of the Purple models.


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #24 on: April 21, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
Wow.  Roger is really reaching on this one.  Pioneers with etch on the blade claiming to be some sort of Soldier....  :think:
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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #25 on: April 21, 2011, 02:40:08 PM
Shades of gold line-up:
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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #26 on: April 21, 2011, 06:03:25 PM
Oh... how well I'm not a collector, but just a user :D


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #27 on: April 21, 2011, 06:48:59 PM
Doesn't really sound like +B exactly knows what he's doing does it..?  :think: :think:


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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #28 on: April 21, 2011, 07:00:23 PM
Doesn't really sound like +B exactly knows what he's doing does it..?  :think: :think:
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Re: Swiss Bianco 1961-2011 Anniversary Soldier
Reply #29 on: April 22, 2011, 01:42:21 AM
Let's remember here that Roger is not a Swiss Army Knife enthusiast or collector.  He's a Swiss blacksmith and custom knifemaker, and because he's Swiss he has the opportunity to get special models made- models he makes to pay the bills while he works on and tries to sell his own knives to various manufacturers.  Because he's not "into" SAKs as seriously as many of the rest of us, he misses some of these kinds of subtleties without realizing it.

It's just an income source with Roger, and he gets made what he hopes will sell.  You can't fault him for not knowing the product lines as well as those of us who probably talk about knives and multis in our sleep.  I's the difference between a Ford salesman and a member of the Mustang Collector's Club- which one is likely to know more about the products?

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