Quote from: Defender on December 10, 2007, 06:23:06 PMI've never been a fan of folding shovels myself. Like anything else, I was probably ruined by cheap ones, but I like something solid. I've been a big fan of the Cold Steel Special Forces shovel for some time:(Image removed from quote.)It's small enough to hang from a pack, strap to the side of a kayak or canoe or simply keep in the trunk of your car for times when you need it. The handle is solid and replaceable if necessary, and the steel is Cold Steel's Carbon V so you can put an edge on it to use it as a makeshift axe if need be.I have one of Glock's bayonets that I found yesterday along with that silly Stab in the Dark knife. I thought I had sold or traded it as well- it's funny that you should have brought it up today of all days!DefI believe that I was told somewhere that Cold steels design was replicated from a Russian Spetnatz design . It was/is also called a throwing shovel much as a throwing knife . I do not think that I would want to be on the receiving end of this item .
I've never been a fan of folding shovels myself. Like anything else, I was probably ruined by cheap ones, but I like something solid. I've been a big fan of the Cold Steel Special Forces shovel for some time:(Image removed from quote.)It's small enough to hang from a pack, strap to the side of a kayak or canoe or simply keep in the trunk of your car for times when you need it. The handle is solid and replaceable if necessary, and the steel is Cold Steel's Carbon V so you can put an edge on it to use it as a makeshift axe if need be.I have one of Glock's bayonets that I found yesterday along with that silly Stab in the Dark knife. I thought I had sold or traded it as well- it's funny that you should have brought it up today of all days!Def
It is indeed copied from the SPETZNAZ design. I have met (and trained for a short period of timewith) Vladimir Vasiliev of the SPETZNAZ and while the shovel could be an impressive weapon, there are very few things (if anything) that isn't an imposing weapon in the hands of a trained SPETZNAZ officer!The man can kick all of our arses with little more than the lint in his pocket!Def
Good kit spoils a soldier!If a soldier has to repair his gear while under fire, it build character! Def
Quote from: micky d on December 10, 2007, 06:56:03 PMThe Chinese security forces use a direct copy too, I've got to say, I REALLY hate the idea personnely!Copy of what ?
The Chinese security forces use a direct copy too, I've got to say, I REALLY hate the idea personnely!
Quote from: Defender on December 10, 2007, 07:01:02 PMI think he's meaning the ballistic knife.Another one of those "good on paper..." type ideas!DefHaving handled one of them believe me they could be effective at what they were intended to . There was the serious drawback that they were rather dangerous to load/cock . Serious possibility of injuring the user .
I think he's meaning the ballistic knife.Another one of those "good on paper..." type ideas!Def
Quote from: micky d on December 10, 2007, 07:11:20 PMQuote from: lonediver on December 10, 2007, 07:08:55 PMQuote from: Defender on December 10, 2007, 07:01:02 PMI think he's meaning the ballistic knife.Another one of those "good on paper..." type ideas!DefHaving handled one of them believe me they could be effective at what they were intended to . There was the serious drawback that they were rather dangerous to load/cock . Serious possibility of injuring the user .That's why I never muched liked the idea, as it seemed to me, that there was as much chance of it biting the user as the intended target Designers must have figured that the ones not careful in loading it did not deserve to play with thier toy .
Quote from: lonediver on December 10, 2007, 07:08:55 PMQuote from: Defender on December 10, 2007, 07:01:02 PMI think he's meaning the ballistic knife.Another one of those "good on paper..." type ideas!DefHaving handled one of them believe me they could be effective at what they were intended to . There was the serious drawback that they were rather dangerous to load/cock . Serious possibility of injuring the user .That's why I never muched liked the idea, as it seemed to me, that there was as much chance of it biting the user as the intended target
Clip of the Cold Steel shovel here; http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HxFJmx5ymiINormal CS silliness; the only thing they don't do with it is dig
Quote from: yellowhammer on December 10, 2007, 07:26:00 PMClip of the Cold Steel shovel here; http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HxFJmx5ymiINormal CS silliness; the only thing they don't do with it is dig You can dig with it
No way! It might get dirty!
I've never been a fan of folding shovels myself. Like anything else, I was probably ruined by cheap ones, but I like something solid. I've been a big fan of the Cold Steel Special Forces shovel for some time:
I've wanted a Glock one since seeing them in SWAT magazine years ago. Along with a Chris Reeves Jereboam, a Gerber BMF (with saw back, natch) and a Buckmaster Oh, and a SPAS 12
I might have to check one of those out. There was a BuckMaster for sale on Knifeforums last week. I don't know if it's still there ornot, but I've wanted one for a while too. I just don't like the prices they ask for them!Def
They're the best bit! And it's got a saw back, and a hollow handle! For survival!
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