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Wood Scale Swiss Army?
on: February 14, 2013, 12:18:19 PM
  Which of the Swiss Army Knives are actually made from real wood? Seems the Wenger EvoWoods are, sadly they are stained and none were of a natural finish. Am assuming they are walnut wood, and not just stained walnut? Haven't seen any with a pen slot. Anyone know what finish they had used too?

 :gimme:  Wished there was an EvoWood with both the Universal Wrench and a Magnifier. Seems Wenger doesn't like magnifiers.


  Was over at EDC Source and happened to see Victorinox had some wood handles. This started a search. Read somewhere that it is a synthetic wood - and the scale material just doesn't last long.

  From what I could gather, none have the pen slot, not that it would be hard to put one into a wood handle. If the handle is a minimum of 3mm thick there would be half a millimeter to work with as the pen is 2.5mm thick. A 3/32" drill bit is just a breathe (2.3813) under 2.5mm, so there's room to work with.

  Most custom wood scales look to be more around 4.5mm to 5mm thick, and hard wood would be needed. My first wood scales are 4.5mm on the tri-tool scale.


  As for making wood scales, unless one already has the crafting tools it can cost a bit more than originally expected. :D
  Already wishing I knew someone that had access to a CNC machine and the specifications needed. And would barter/trade for a set made. Doing it by hand is fun, and time consuming.
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 12:31:17 PM
Don't know about that synthetic wood :think:
Where did you read about that?
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
Don't know about that synthetic wood :think:
Where did you read about that?

  Blade Forums I think it was. Saw Ash's leg there, too.  :D
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 12:55:26 PM
If the wood in my Spartan Hardwood really is synthetic, it is a rather groundbreaking variety in similarity to the real thing. That said, cellidor is made of wood (it's a type of cellulose acetate) and I guess the old fiber handles probably had some components starting their lives as green, vertical stuff in the forest too.


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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 02:13:01 PM
  Which of the Swiss Army Knives are actually made from real wood? Seems the Wenger EvoWoods are, sadly they are stained and none were of a natural finish. Am assuming they are walnut wood, and not just stained walnut? Haven't seen any with a pen slot. Anyone know what finish they had used too?

 ....

"EvoWood is the latest in the growing Evolution series created by Wenger in 2005, more than 100 years after the original Swiss Army Knife design. Wenger is commited to protecting the environment and these products, which are “grown” in Switzerland, demonstrate the innovative ways in which we can approach production to help conservation.

The handles for each of these pocketknives are constructed from sustainable top quality walnut using what would otherwise be waste material from other production processes. The natural walnut, which is durable for light outdoor use, is colored in a rich dark stain to create individual shades and grain patterns in each knife, making every product a one-off."

http://www.wenger.ch/evowood-10-1-010-009-830

Hats off to Wenger  :hatsoff:

I just got the S557 EvoWood and I must say it is very nice solid wood. Natural walnut, not ugly stained. Thank god no laquer used. I'm gonna give it a few more coats with lemon oil.  :)
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 02:17:07 PM
  Which of the Swiss Army Knives are actually made from real wood? Seems the Wenger EvoWoods are, sadly they are stained and none were of a natural finish. Am assuming they are walnut wood, and not just stained walnut? Haven't seen any with a pen slot. Anyone know what finish they had used too?

 ....

"EvoWood is the latest in the growing Evolution series created by Wenger in 2005, more than 100 years after the original Swiss Army Knife design. Wenger is commited to protecting the environment and these products, which are “grown” in Switzerland, demonstrate the innovative ways in which we can approach production to help conservation.

The handles for each of these pocketknives are constructed from sustainable top quality walnut using what would otherwise be waste material from other production processes. The natural walnut, which is durable for light outdoor use, is colored in a rich dark stain to create individual shades and grain patterns in each knife, making every product a one-off."

http://www.wenger.ch/evowood-10-1-010-009-830

Hats off to Wenger  :hatsoff:

I just got the S557 EvoWood and I must say it is very nice solid wood. Natural walnut, not ugly stained. Thank god no laquer used. I'm gonna give it a few more coats with lemon oil.  :)

 :gimme:  I want one of those. A bit out of my price range.   :cry:
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 02:21:36 PM
Also, wenger made some wooden ones with EKA.
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #7 on: February 14, 2013, 02:30:41 PM
Also, wenger made some wooden ones with EKA.

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Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 06:06:54 PM
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
Those swedish EKA's are great!  :tu:


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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
Wenger made a series of knives in conjunction with EKA. The top three were sold by Wenger; the bottom one was sold by EKA. Several other models also done.

Victorinox did both rosewood and 'hardwood' handles.
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #11 on: February 14, 2013, 11:40:58 PM
Don't know about that synthetic wood :think:
Where did you read about that?

  Blade Forums I think it was. Saw Ash's leg there, too.  :D

You sure it wasn't my arm? Something like this...




Also to stay on topic I have a wenger evowood 18 and its super sweet. Pricey yes but so sweet and feels excellent in hand. :tu:

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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #12 on: February 15, 2013, 01:16:46 AM
Don't know about that synthetic wood :think:
Where did you read about that?

  Blade Forums I think it was. Saw Ash's leg there, too.  :D

You sure it wasn't my arm? Something like this...

Also to stay on topic I have a wenger evowood 18 and its super sweet. Pricey yes but so sweet and feels excellent in hand. :tu:

Ash's mobile on the move.

  Ahh... thought it was your leg in your avatar. Not much space there to zoom in on. Sorry about that.
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Reply #13 on: February 15, 2013, 03:04:50 AM
When I read that I was thinking oh hell where did this photo come from. :D  I didn't think I had any uploaded of my tatted leg.

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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #14 on: February 18, 2013, 04:39:20 PM
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Encased in untreated wood, the Wallpaper* Swiss Army Knife features undulating contour lines etched into the surface. An accurate representation of the mountainous landscape of Ibach in Switzerland – where the Victorinox factory is based
  8) 8)


http://www.highsnobiety.com/2009/09/29/wallpaper-x-victorinox-swiss-army-knifes/


http://www.wallpaper.com/design/wallpaper-cuts-with-victorinox/3717


http://www.freshnessmag.com/2009/09/29/wallpaper-magazine-x-victorinox-wallpaper-cuts-swiss-army-knives/


http://www.wallpaper.com/gallery/art/wallpaper-cuts-with-victorinox/17051367/21225#nav
"The limited edition Wallpaper* designed Swiss Army knife comes with its own unique presentation box. For your exclusive chance to buy one for £70"
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
Oh, those look nice. Me wants it!   :drool:

Edit: £70 for a Climber with a blade marred by etching a company name of which I have no knowledge... OK, a little bit too much for my wallet. :)
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 08:04:48 PM
Xelkos,
These are some Black Walnut scales that I made some time ago.  They were cut with a laser engraver, not CNC.  Unfortunately, they are regular and not plus scales, but plus scales are in the works.  I can't tell you exactly when, though, since life and work are interfering with my projects, especially my brass liner one.  They are 1/8" thick, about 3mm.

Anyway, PM me your mailing address if you want them and they're yours.  They do require a bit of sanding.

I apologize for the lousy photos which were taken with my phone.

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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 09:51:06 PM
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Contour lines cutting across other contour lines or pinching out? I've seen that on 'third-world' maps, but the Swiss are excellent cartographers. Think someone was making it up as they went along, rather than copying an actual map.
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 10:09:44 PM
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Encased in untreated wood, the Wallpaper* Swiss Army Knife features undulating contour lines etched into the surface. An accurate representation of the mountainous landscape of Ibach in Switzerland – where the Victorinox factory is based
  8) 8)

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That's one bonzer looking knife!
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 10:29:32 PM
Xelkos,
These are some Black Walnut scales that I made some time ago.  They were cut with a laser engraver, not CNC.  Unfortunately, they are regular and not plus scales, but plus scales are in the works.  I can't tell you exactly when, though, since life and work are interfering with my projects, especially my brass liner one.  They are 1/8" thick, about 3mm.

Anyway, PM me your mailing address if you want them and they're yours.  They do require a bit of sanding.

I apologize for the lousy photos which were taken with my phone.

  Awesome work sir! Had thought lasers were powerful and cut through stuff, or weakened beams for engraving. never seen a cutting laser in action. How on earth do you control the beam intensity and cutting depth?!?! What I would give to see this in action.  :o
  Lasers are probably way more expensive than a router CNC setup. Makes my cutting by hand feel like cave-man method.

  If you ever set up a pay per view laser cutting session, let us know!  :tu:


PS: Am anxious to see your Plus (pen) scale work in the future. All kinds of attractive woods out there in the world!
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 11:36:22 PM
The laser is a 30w Epilog Mini 24. It will cut (up to about 1/4" thick) and engrave materials like wood, plastic, leather, paper, and fabric.  The tech who trained me said he had even engraved things like bananas and Pop-Tarts.  It will engrave coated metals like anodized aluminum (burns the coating). It will not cut or engrave bare metals (not powerful enough although obviously more powerful lasers can cut bare metals).

Basically the laser is like a big printer.  If you can print it, you can cut and/or engrave it.  Speed and power are controlled by nothing more than the driver which is just a complicated printer driver.

Check out the Epilog website (epiloglaser.com).  There's a lot of good information, videos, etc. there.

I'll try to get the scales in the mail tomorrow.
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Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
  Yeow! $18K for that machine.   

  Hope you can recoup the expense and then some with it. Laser engraved pop-tarts. That I'd have to see.  :D  :rofl:

 
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Re: Wood Scale Swiss Army?
Reply #22 on: February 19, 2013, 10:57:04 AM
Oh, those look nice. Me wants it!   :drool:

Edit: £70 for a Climber with a blade marred by etching a company name of which I have no knowledge... OK, a little bit too much for my wallet. :)

Yeah, I agree. At least a nice Wallpaper for your desktop, and it's free!  :)


 

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