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Appreciation for the Explorer

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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1110 on: July 23, 2023, 05:58:06 PM
Nice. Where'd you get the clip?

HolsterBuilder on Amazon US.  I have 2 now on LM sheaths.  It’s a good strong clip.


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1111 on: July 24, 2023, 03:52:07 AM
Thanks, bro.


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1112 on: September 01, 2023, 04:42:37 PM
Spent the last month on the Alox challenge and rarely used a cellidor model, let alone my trusty Explorer.  Today I’m giving the Explorer some pocket time and noticed it really has seen some use. 

The scales are scuffed and scratched and dented from sitting it down, sliding it around, dropping it, and holding in hand with screws and the like.

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My most used tools tell the story.  The in-line Philips demonstrates the soft Vic steel, but has held up well over time driving stubborn screws.  The cap lifter has seen similar use and as a pry bar really hasn’t worn down as much as I’d thought it should.  The awl has some scuffs I couldn’t pick up in a picture and is dented from scraping and poking and drilling.  The scissors are loose and stick from all the small imperfections cutting harder plastics and the like.  The small blade is still wicked sharp along the belly to butt, with the tip showing the most wear.

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Certainly a knife I appreciate even if I don’t use the full toolset as frequently as these most used implements.

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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1113 on: September 01, 2023, 05:19:59 PM
Well said, sir.  I too have not carried an Explorer for 30+ days because of the Alox Challenge.  Though I love the thinness and aesthetic of Alox, its nice to have an Explorer back in my pocket.  Its my all time fave.



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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1114 on: September 01, 2023, 08:44:33 PM
Well said, sir.  I too have not carried an Explorer for 30+ days because of the Alox Challenge.  Though I love the thinness and aesthetic of Alox, its nice to have an Explorer back in my pocket.  Its my all time fave.
I hadn't either powernoodle for the same reason.
Found myself reaching for my Explorer and slid it in my 5th pocket today.

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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1115 on: September 01, 2023, 11:21:57 PM
 :iagree:
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1116 on: September 02, 2023, 02:47:40 AM
Thanks powernoodle  :cheers:

The Explorer will get some dedicated time this month before I start the spirit challenge in Oct. it is also my top SAK. 


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1117 on: September 22, 2023, 02:55:21 AM
this is my favorite Sexplorer. 2017 White Christmas edition. Very Sexy !!!!


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1118 on: September 22, 2023, 03:35:02 AM
 :like:  :tu:  :tu:
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1119 on: September 22, 2023, 11:00:05 PM
 :like: :iagree:

Very sexy! Makes me think of that Right Said Fred song…



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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1120 on: September 23, 2023, 03:37:15 AM
One of my all time favourites is the Explorer. Happy Friday as well!


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1121 on: September 23, 2023, 10:16:05 AM
I have such mixed feelings about the Explorer!

I love it for nostalgia reasons - it was my first SAK that I got while in the Boy Scouts.

But...

I'm really of two minds about the Phillips/mag glass layer. Sure, they are fine tools. The problem is that the 2D can opener Phillips can do 90 - 95% of what the 3D Phillips can do. Not to mention the fact that the driver is too thick to reach many recessed screws  I come across. It's also the wrong size - I wish it were more of a #0/#1 as opposed to the #1/#2 size that it is. That would make it have somewhat less overlap with the Can Opener.

Also, it's too short (e.g. - too short to reach screws on a door knob, for example)! My original Explorer is a mid 90s model and the driver is longer. I bought a new one last year with the idea that I would carry/use that one from time to time and preserve my first SAK. But the driver is shorter for no apparent reason. I've read that it's because of the change in mag glass over the years, but I'm not sure about that. There's a pretty big gap between the two tools on that layer. The driver could be longer by at least 1/8" without any issue opening/closing the new style mag glass that I can see.

I have actually found the 58mm Combo Tool Phillips to be VASTLY more useful and versatile. It can do anything from #00 to #2 screws! I keep a Rambler in my pockets at all times. To be fair, most of the screws I encounter are in electronics and kids toys where #0 and #1 size screws are by far the most commonly used. You don't see many #2 screws in that arena, though they are used much more in construction and furniture.

The mag glass is great and I do use it from time to time when working on things like computer/networking equipment. But it's not something I need to keep in my pocket 100% of the time. Instead I keep my Explorer out on my desk so it's handy when I'm tinkering with stuff.

So... yeah. I think the Explorer is great! And I don't end up carrying it much. I'm much more likely to be carrying a Spartan/Tinker/Recruit along with a Rambler. The Deluxe Tinker is attractive with the pliers though!

My exact feelings also...

It's a good SAK for sure, it's also a "looker", i've carried it for a couple of months when i bought it.
But it always felt like carrying a bulky 4 layer SAK for the same benefit of a Climber really... I honestly think that the inline Phillips is highly overrated vs it's actual function and usability. It looks great, but is it really that much more usable than the can opener SD for example...? For real life sporadic use...?
I can get more SD variety and functionality with any other smaller SAK's (84 or 91mm) and a bit adapter with some bits than the inline phillips.
Also the Mag glass has very limited use for me, it's very small, and if i want to quickly enlarge something to see, i'll just grab my phone and take a pic of it..., much more useful to enlarge anything, IMO.

So, even if i like the Explorer, i really don't actually carry it anymore. For 4 layers in an urban setting, i'd rather carry a Deluxe Tinker, much more real world functionality
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1122 on: September 23, 2023, 10:17:09 AM
My exact feelings also...

It's a good SAK for sure, it's also a "looker", i've carried it for a couple of months when i bought it.
But it always felt like carrying a bulky 4 layer SAK for the same benefit of a Climber really... I honestly think that the inline Phillips is highly overrated vs it's actual function and usability. It looks great, but is it really that much more usable than the can opener SD for example...? For real life sporadic use...?
I can get more SD variety and functionality with any other smaller SAK's (84 or 91mm) and a bit adapter with some bits than the inline phillips.
Also the Mag glass has very limited use for me, it's very small, and if i want to quickly enlarge something to see, i'll just grab my phone and take a pic of it..., much more useful to enlarge anything, IMO. Also the Mag glass is by far the most fragile part on any SAK.

So, even if i like the Explorer, i really don't actually carry it anymore. For 4 layers in an urban setting, i'd rather carry a Deluxe Tinker, much more real world functionality
"Another Day...; a whole n'other set of fresh possibilities..." - MacGyver (S1E19 - "Slow Death")


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1123 on: September 23, 2023, 10:28:20 PM
 :iagree: with Mac but I do love mine  :salute:
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1124 on: September 25, 2023, 04:21:08 AM
I honestly think that the inline Phillips is highly overrated vs its actual function and usability. It looks great, but is it really that much more usable than the can opener SD for example...? For real life sporadic use...?

Also the Mag glass has very limited use for me,

So, even if i like the Explorer, i really don't actually carry it anymore. For 4 layers in an urban setting, i'd rather carry a Deluxe Tinker, much more real world functionality

Many of these points are the reasons I love the Explorer (in-line Phillips, mag lens). I haven’t tried a tinker model but I do agree I could probably get away with the back spring Philips or can opener for most sporadic use. I would make the case that I also use the inline driver a lot on screws the can opener would likely  cam out and in spaces where the back spring driver wouldn’t fit well or at all with the t shape.

It would interesting to me to carry both for a spell and see which does get more real world use for me. I don’t use the cork screw that often and I wonder how much I’d actually need it.

I have found the 4 layers is a bit much for urban carry. I would love a yeoman and just losing that one later is noticeable in the pocket.


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1125 on: September 25, 2023, 04:47:41 AM
I have also pretty much cut 4 layers out of my pocket rotation unless its a jacket. I am obsessed with 2 layer alox atm.

I have tried the phillips mag layer in a scientist, yeoman, explorer and the champ. I think it is excellent to fiddle with. The 90 stop on the SD gives it a good amount of figitability, and the rounded side of the mag make it pleasant to mess with too. Its ratio of usefulness to thickness is just too low to carry unless its in the champ.  For me personally, I really don’t run across many screws that need screwing unless I am arms reach from my tool box or the champ in my bag.


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1126 on: September 25, 2023, 01:34:04 PM
Very interesting perspectives by awl. The in-line Phillips is definitely one tool that I miss when I’m carrying just a farmer. The screwdriver tip of the can opener really cannot compare to the full on Phillips for me.

This is because the Phillips driver can handle many different sizes of Phillips screws even smaller ones without slipping out IME it is much more robust as well. I find that the can opener screwdriver on my farmer has lost a bunch of metal in my many attempts at trying to use it as a Phillips. It has worn down and chipped pretty well from use on the tip, although the in-line Phillips on my 1980s explorer may be worn down a slight bit from use, it still works like a champ. No slippage.

It’s basically like having a screwdriver in my pocket I can’t really say the same thing for the screwdriver tip on the can opener. It’s just not even close.

The other tool that I miss when carrying the farmer is the mag glass. I’ve actually had to start carrying a jewelers loop around with me bic I miss it so much. Ha

The Explorer mag glass is great for looking at gold nuggets up close, a map, or text that is too small. I also like to open it at the top and put it down on the table to use it as a mini microscope. It makes a great fire starter and once even lit a cigar with it when my lighter failed. It’s funny how we all have such different perspectives because the two tools that are making me miss the explorer the most are the in-line Phillips and the mag  :dunno:

I really wanna get some 91mm metal scales for one of my explorers… Alox Explorer   :ahhh


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1127 on: September 25, 2023, 02:10:50 PM
I tend to keep the Explorer in a Lochby Venture Pouch which is usually in my pack for urban carry. The primary use is the Phillips and the magnifying glass and is a lighter carry than the Swiss Champ. Whilst a lightweight driver with bits is a better use, it is the versatility in the moment that always brings me back to a SAK.


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1128 on: September 25, 2023, 02:52:20 PM
Very interesting perspectives by awl. The in-line Phillips is definitely one tool that I miss when I’m carrying just a farmer. The screwdriver tip of the can opener really cannot compare to the full on Phillips for me.

This is because the Phillips driver can handle many different sizes of Phillips screws even smaller ones without slipping out IME it is much more robust as well. I find that the can opener screwdriver on my farmer has lost a bunch of metal in my many attempts at trying to use it as a Phillips. It has worn down and chipped pretty well from use on the tip, although the in-line Phillips on my 1980s explorer may be worn down a slight bit from use, it still works like a champ. No slippage.

It’s basically like having a screwdriver in my pocket I can’t really say the same thing for the screwdriver tip on the can opener. It’s just not even close.

The other tool that I miss when carrying the farmer is the mag glass. I’ve actually had to start carrying a jewelers loop around with me bic I miss it so much. Ha

The Explorer mag glass is great for looking at gold nuggets up close, a map, or text that is too small. I also like to open it at the top and put it down on the table to use it as a mini microscope. It makes a great fire starter and once even lit a cigar with it when my lighter failed. It’s funny how we all have such different perspectives because the two tools that are making me miss the explorer the most are the in-line Phillips and the mag  :dunno:

I really wanna get some 91mm metal scales for one of my explorers… Alox Explorer   :ahhh

I completely  understand what you are saying, and your perspective, but it obviously depends on the use, frequency, and user.
I like the freedom of having the can opener for most incidental jobs, and using my bit adapter with the bottle opener, there for having as much inline SD's i want without having an extra thick layer dedicated just to one SD. However my usage is on a "in a pinch" needed situation, and not on recurrent or job retated situations,  for that id carry an actual screwdriver,  or dedicated toolset
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1129 on: September 25, 2023, 04:32:39 PM
I completely  understand what you are saying, and your perspective, but it obviously depends on the use, frequency, and user.
I like the freedom of having the can opener for most incidental jobs, and using my bit adapter with the bottle opener, there for having as much inline SD's i want without having an extra thick layer dedicated just to one SD. However my usage is on a "in a pinch" needed situation, and not on recurrent or job retated situations,  for that id carry an actual screwdriver,  or dedicated toolset

I missed the bit adapter from your first post. How’s that set up? Is it a leatherman adapter?


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1130 on: September 25, 2023, 05:40:55 PM
I missed the bit adapter from your first post. How’s that set up? Is it a leatherman adapter?

No, just a regular hex bit adapter from one of my regular  bits kit, it's square section fits bottle openers perfectly.



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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1131 on: September 25, 2023, 05:53:41 PM
That's a 3/8" drive (ratchet) to 1/4" bit adapter, correct?
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1132 on: September 25, 2023, 07:09:56 PM
That's a 3/8" drive (ratchet) to 1/4" bit adapter, correct?

Quite possibly... , i'd have to check
It just fitted at the time, so i didn't even bothered to check the measurements.
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1133 on: September 25, 2023, 07:12:19 PM
No, just a regular hex bit adapter from one of my regular  bits kit, it's square section fits bottle openers perfectly.

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Oh that’s smart. Looks like a 3/8th.  I’ll have to give that a try.


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1134 on: September 26, 2023, 03:55:11 AM
No real criticism for the Philips.
I do agree about the mag. Thought it would be my EDC but the mag is not as good for a new glasses wearer like me so it goes in it's rest area for now...
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1135 on: September 26, 2023, 01:20:03 PM
My niece was born about a month ago. I gave her an Explorer which she seems to like based on the smile. Start of a life long SAK user/collector I think. 

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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1136 on: September 29, 2023, 01:26:45 AM
 :like: Awww First Future Sak?  :salute: :tu:
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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1137 on: September 29, 2023, 03:34:00 AM
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Congrats and well done (Uncle) Rich  :salute:


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1138 on: September 29, 2023, 02:40:14 PM
Congrats Rich.  She’ll be joining the in-line Philips discussion before you know it


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Re: Appreciation for the Explorer
Reply #1139 on: November 13, 2023, 10:40:12 PM
One of the reasons I dropped out of this half of the Spirit challenge is several trips this month. Just came back from a wedding. Explorer in the checked luggage and it came in handy.

Always good to have the toothpick and tweezers. Great to have getting ready.

The bottle opener and crock screw made regular appearances… the combo tool provided by the hotel broke on the first bottle.

The scissors were used several times a day.

No steak knife in the room, so large blade did a bit of food prep for kids and leftovers.

The Phillips and bottle opener I actually had to use to fix a shower door hinge.

The parcel hook did its job carrying a parcel wrapped with string. I wish I got a picture of it it’ll probably never happen again.

The awl put a new hole in a belt.

The day of the wedding I think it saw the most use and everyone was thrilled macgyver was there.

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