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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #360 on: January 05, 2020, 07:41:49 AM
Thank you Steve, Poncho  :hatsoff:
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #361 on: February 09, 2020, 03:25:56 PM
Attached is a pic of the one I have carried as long as I can remember and it doesn't fit all the criteria of the timeline. No markings except the TM. Can you tell me how old it is? Is it worth anything? Is it a rare unit?
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #362 on: February 09, 2020, 04:03:29 PM
Hi and welcome to the forum   :cheers:

Check it against the PST chronology thread, first page. It's most likely an early 90's model. Hard to tell from your lo res picture. Have you checked the inside of the handles for a date code ?


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #363 on: February 10, 2020, 04:35:32 AM
Hi :waving: and welcome to  :MTO: Ck :cheers:

 :iagree: with Steve about the date and finding out closer to what you have from the first post in the thread :tu:


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #364 on: March 18, 2021, 04:37:16 AM
Alright you updated the list cool thanks man :multi:
there is an attachment that was made around the time of the St 200. I think it's the only attachment before a whole bunch of accessories and bits were introduced. I forgot the name of it but I remember how hard it was to put the c-clip in the top. It could swivel 45 degrees and 90. It was a plate that would fit between your jaw when you pull the handles apart, U can  squeeze on it and it stays in place. It is a 1/4" adapter/nut driver used primarily for the screws that are closest to the inside of the windshield on a vehicle. You can take a short Phillips/Flat bit and not fall out of the socket.
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #365 on: March 18, 2021, 04:44:05 AM
there is an attachment that was made around the time of the St 200. I think it's the only attachment before a whole bunch of accessories and bits were introduced. I forgot the name of it but I remember how hard it was to put the c-clip in the top. It could swivel 45 degrees and 90. It was a plate that would fit between your jaw when you pull the handles apart, U can  squeeze on it and it stays in place. It is a 1/4" adapter/nut driver used primarily for the screws that are closest to the inside of the windshield on a vehicle. It can fit a short Phillips/Flat bit and not fall out of the socket.


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #366 on: March 18, 2021, 05:18:56 AM

Tool Adapter. That's the one that was manufactured to fit the super tool at the time that super tool 200 was in the makings.


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #367 on: March 18, 2021, 05:22:45 AM
Tool Adapter. That's the one that was manufactured to fit the super tool at the time that super tool 200 was in the makings. There were tools in the museum case in the front office entrance. They were specialty tools for electricians. There really are tools that most eyes have not seen that Tim designed before PST came out.


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #368 on: March 18, 2021, 11:04:34 AM
The Original Tool Adapter and the Universal Tool Adapter are both awesome accessories for most of the Old School LM and even a lot of other brand MTs :salute: I have the Original with me daily in my backpack and another that is NIB :cheers: They really add a lot of versatility to a MT :like:

I am also a big Supertool (the whole family of tools) fan as well as a big fan of the PST and it's variants :cheers:


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #369 on: March 26, 2021, 07:11:30 AM
Is there anyone who makes statistics on the folding knives made by Leatherman?


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #370 on: March 26, 2021, 04:33:32 PM
Off hand, I am not sure that many keep up with the knives :think: but maybe we do have someone that does and they will make themselves known :salute:


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #371 on: May 17, 2021, 12:58:42 PM
Hey LM fans

Looks like our first post in this thread is way behind the times last entry is 2016 :o

No New Wave, Free Series, Heritage PST, Bond etc etc   :pok:
I  think also loads of retired tools eg the Juices, Squirt ES4 .........

Does anyone know the dates? - If so post them here and I will happily update the OP
I could take I guess or at least put placeholders if we get no replies

Thanks Team


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #372 on: May 17, 2021, 03:26:37 PM
I am sure I have meant to do this before now :facepalm:

Bond of course is 2021
Free series is 2019 (all models)
The Wave + came out early 2018 as well :salute:

The Heritage PST may have been in 2018? I believe you went to meet Tim Leatherman the same time it came out, no? So that would give you a good time for the date of it :tu:

2020 was when the last of the Juices were retired as well I think :think:

Not sure of the ES4 ???

I can edit this in later today but I am putting this here to remind myself of these things :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #373 on: May 18, 2021, 06:31:29 AM
Hi again LM fans and Poncho

Well I thought I would have a go at the updates
In doing so I took the opportunity to restructure the page to make the Retired and Current columns (some of you might recognise the format! ;))
I also (slightly) reformatted the individual lines.

Just shown below in this post for now ...... What do you all think?

I entered the latest updates as per Poncho's post above - I left a ?? against the dates for now
I think the two columns is much easier for our users to consume - And of course also takes less space.
I have not checked against the LM website - And did not double check against the first page (yet)
Just wanted to put this out there

If y'all are OK with it I could update the first page with this structure - Note: Table is currently Work in Progress
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Note:
This table does not include the pure knife based models - eg The Crater, single handled Juice
Ii also does not include handle or blade variations - eg Damascus blade , camo handles etc


Multitools   
Current Models
  • Micra: 1996  > 
  • Crunch: 1999  > 
  • Skeletool: 2008/7?  > 
  • Skeletool CX: 2008/7?  > 
  • Super Tool 300: 2009  > 
  • Super Tool 300 EOD: 2010  > 
  • MUT: 2010 > 
  • Style CS: 2010 > 
  • Squirt PS4: 2010 > 
  • Sidekick: 2011 > 
  • Wingman: 2011 > 
  • Rebar: 2012 > 
  • OHT: 2012 > 
  • Skeletool SX: 2013 > 
  • Raptor: 2013 > 
  • New Surge: 2013 > 
  • Rev: 2015 > 
  • Signal: 2015 > 
  • Tread: 2015 > 
  • Skeletool RX: 2016 > 
  • Knifeless Rebar: 2016 >
  • Wave +: Generation III: 2019/8? >
  • Charge +, TTi +: 2019/8? > 
  • Free P2: 2019 >
  • Free P4: 2019 >
  • Free T2: 2019 >
  • Free T4: 2019 >
  • Free K2: 2019 later >
  • Free K2X: 2019 later >
  • Free K4: 2019 later >
  • Free K4X: 2019 later >
  • Bond: 2021 >
  • Curl: 2021? >
           
Retired Models
  • PST: 1983 > 2004
  • MiniTool: 1986 > 2004
  • Original Supertool: 1994 > 2001
  • PST II: 1996 > 2004
  • Original Wave: 1998 > 2004
  • Sideclip: 1998 > 2004
  • Flair: 1999 > 2004
  • Pulse: 2000 > 2004
  • Supertool 200: 2001 > 2005
  • Juice KF4: 2001 > 2005
  • Original Juice C2: 2001 > 2014
  • Original Juice S2: 2001 > 2014
  • Original Juice CS4: 2001 > 2014
  • Original Juice XE6: 2001 > 2014
  • Juice Pro: 2002 > 2003
  • Squirt P4: 2002 > 2010
  • Squirt S4: 2002 > 2010
  • Juice SC2: 2003 > 2005
  • Squirt E4: 2003 > 2010
  • New Wave (Generation II): 2004 > 2019/8?
  • Charge Ti & Xti: 2004 > 2007/8?
  • Kick: 2004 > 2012
  • Fuse (with blade): 2004 > 2012
  • Blast: 2004 > 2012
  • Core: 2005 > 2009
  • Surge: 2005 > 2013
  • Fuse (bladeless): 2006 > 2012
  • Hybrid: 2006 > 2010/9?
  • Vista: 2006 > 2010/9 ?
  • Charge AL, ALX & TTi: 2007/8  >  2019/8
  • Genus: 2007 > 2010/9?
  • Freestyle: 2009  > 2020?
  • Freestyle CX: 2009 > 2012
  • Style: 2010 > 2014
  • Squirt ES4: 2010 > 2020?
  • Style PS: 2011 > 2020?
  • Original Juice SX: 2013 > 2014
  • Z-Rex: 2013? > 2019
  • Leap: 2014 > 2020?
  • New Juice C2: 2014 > 2020?
  • New Juice S2: 2014 > 2020?
  • New Juice CS4: 2014 > 2020?
  • New Juice XE6: 2014 > 2020?
  • New Juice SX: 2014 > 2020?
  • 35th Anniversary Heritage PST: 2018 > 2018
  • 35th Anniversary PST: 2018 > 2018
        Pocket Tools   
Current Models
  • Carabiner: 2011? >
  • Brewzer: 2012 >
  • Hail: 2013 > 
  • Cam: 2013 >
  • Shooter: 2013 >
  • Rime: 2013 >
  • Clean Contact Carabiner: 2013? >
Retired Models
  • Croc: 2012?  > 2021
  • Mako Ti: 2012 > ??
  • Piranha: 2012  - 2013
  • Grind: 2013  > ??
  • Hail + Style PS: 2013 > ??
  • Jam: 2013  > ??
  • Jam + Style PS: 2013  > ??
  • Pump: 2013  > ??
  • Rail: 2013  > ??
  • Thruster: 2013  > ??
  • Piranha 2: 2014 > ??
  • Leatherman 1-10 OPTs: 2015? > ??
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #374 on: May 18, 2021, 06:46:24 AM
That looks nice. I think the Freestyle is now discontinued. The Freestyle CX was discontinued back in 2012 or so this Leatherman Wikipedia post states...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherman
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.I like the new format
Reply #375 on: May 18, 2021, 12:47:28 PM
I like the new format :salute: :like: Also I guess that the Tti, Al and ALx are also tecnically retired in 2019 and the Charge + and Charge Tti + took their place :salute:


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #376 on: May 18, 2021, 12:48:49 PM
Also the idea of the 3rd column and the OPTs is a good idea :cheers:


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #377 on: May 18, 2021, 12:49:47 PM
That looks nice. I think the Freestyle is now discontinued. The Freestyle CX was discontinued back in 2012 or so this Leatherman Wikipedia post states...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherman

I believe that is correct as well :salute: Forgot totally about the Freestyle being retired :ahhh


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #378 on: May 19, 2021, 05:22:20 AM
Thanks for the feedback lads

OK - I have made Chako's and Poncho's changes in the post above - I had also missed off a few Free models

Must admit I cannot get to grips with the numbering system of the Frees - But I am getting there
Looks like larger number means more tools eg P2 vs P4  and and X means a serrated blade on the non plier based tools
Also the Ts are shorter versions of the K's
Edit: Woo hoo - Just realised that P must mean pliers :facepalm:

I also cannot get worked up or enthiusiastic about this family at all - Why get a Free P compared to a Wave or a Charge??
Or a T or K compared to a Swiss Army Knife !! :think:

Now the Bond I can get excited about - Simple, compact, lightweight, straightforward/uncomplicated and legal carry in many countries - and of course a great price  :tu: compared say to the Free :facepalm:
Also it seems that LM are finally listening to us - For how long have we been raving about the PST and asking them to bring it back? !

EDIT PS: Really sorry to see the Leap go - That was a nice little tool  :(   ...... And the Juices for that matter - I really think that family could have gone places with the right target market and marketing.
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #379 on: May 19, 2021, 06:28:46 AM
PPS. In researching this udate I checked out the LM website and noticed something funny

In the video for the Free P4 (and P2) they use the can-opener traveling the 'wrong way'.
I guess the users in the video were used to the traditional LM can-opener (Wenger style) where you pull the opener towards you to open the can.
However the Free CO is a Vic style CO where you push the CO away from you!! But it looks like they did not realise that!

https://www.leatherman.com/free-p4-585.html

Apologies if this has been pointed out before!


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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #380 on: May 28, 2021, 06:47:56 AM
OK - I think I have gone as far as I can with the restructuring of the original post above.

I checked dates against the website that Chako kindly found - There were a few discrepancies eg Wave/Charge/Skeletool/Gardening dates - So I marked them with the new date and a ? .... and I am not sure who is correct Wiki or MTo - The Wiki dates are the latter in the listing
Also I am not sure when the OPTs were withdrawn

Can anyone confirm any of the ?? dates please

And are you happy for me to update the OP?    ???
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #381 on: May 28, 2021, 06:59:04 PM
PPS. In researching this udate I checked out the LM website and noticed something funny

In the video for the Free P4 (and P2) they use the can-opener traveling the 'wrong way'.
I guess the users in the video were used to the traditional LM can-opener (Wenger style) where you pull the opener towards you to open the can.
However the Free CO is a Vic style CO where you push the CO away from you!! But it looks like they did not realise that!

https://www.leatherman.com/free-p4-585.html

Apologies if this has been pointed out before!

Not noticed the cack-handed use of the can opener before. :doh:
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Re: Leatherman production timeline.
Reply #382 on: June 02, 2021, 08:33:26 AM
Looks good :tu:

As far as the Skeletool goes, I think it was announced in 2007, but came into production and became available in late 2008. And the original CX had the combo blade while the SS had the plain edge.


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Re: Leatherman production timeline
Reply #383 on: June 02, 2021, 02:21:35 PM
Well we re-organised the first page and I was reflecting on the statistics behind that post

So since that post was first made in 2008 approximately .
  • 23 models that were in existence have been retired
  • 11 models have come ....... and gone
  • 4 models are still in production
  • There are 28 new models in production
  • 8 Pocket tools have arrived
  • 11 Pocket tools have come ..... and gone

As mentioned the numbers are very rough I might have counted up incorrectly - But it gives us some idea

I am not sure what it says about Leatherman and their product range    :think:    But I think at least it's interesting    ::)

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This was the original list from the first post of this thread before restructuring:
Note: End dates not always correct and models missing

PST - 1983-2004
MiniTool - 1986-2004
Original Supertool - 1994-2001
PST II - 1996-2004
Micra - 1996-Present
Original Wave - 1998-2004
Sideclip - 1998-2004
Flair - 1999-2004
Crunch - 1999-Present
Pulse - 2000-2004
Supertool 200 - 2001-2005
Juice Kf4 - 2001-2005
Original Juice C2 - 2001-2014
Original Juice S2 - 2001-2014
Original Juice CS4 - 2001-2014
Original Juice XE6 - 2001-2014
Juice Pro - 2002-2003
Squirt P4 - 2002-2010
Squirt S4 - 2002-2010
Juice SC2 - 2003-2005
Squirt E4 - 2003-2010
New Wave - 2004-Present
Charge Ti & Xti - 2004-2007
Kick - 2004-2012
Fuse(knife) - 2004-2012
Blast - 2004-2012
Core - 2005-2009
Surge - 2005-Present
Fuse(knifeless) - 2006-2012
Hybrid - 2006-2010
Vista - 2006-2010
Charge AL, ALX & TTi - 2007-Present
Genus - 2007-2010
Skeletool - 2008-Present
Skeletool CX - 2008-Present
Freestyle - 2009-Present
Freestyle CX - 2009-2011
Super Tool 300 - 2009-Present
Super Tool 300 EOD - 2010-Present
MUT - 2010-Present
Style - 2010-2014
Style CS - 2010-Present
Squirt ES4 - 2010-Present
Squirt PS4 - 2010-Present
Sidekick - 2011-Present
Wingman - 2011-Present
Style PS - 2011-Present
Rebar - 2012-Present
OHT - 2012-Present
Skeletool SX - 2013-Present
Raptor - 2013-Present
New Surge - 2013-Present
Original Juice SX - 2013-2014
Leap - 2014-Present
New Juice C2 - 2014-Present
New Juice S2 - 2014-Present
New Juice CS4 - 2014-Present
New Juice XE6 - 2014-Present
New Juice SX - 2014-Present
Leatherman REV - 2015-Present
Signal - 2015-Present
Tread - 2015-Present
Skeletool RX - 2016-Present
Knifeless Rebar - 2016-Present

Leatherman Pocket Tools Timeline
Brewzer 2012 - Present
Mako Ti 2012 - Present
Piranha 2012 - 2013
Piranha 2 2014 - Present
Hail 2013 - Present
Hail+Style PS 2013 - Present
Rime 2013 - Present
Cam 2013 - Present
Pump 2013 - Present
Rail 2013 - Present
Jam 2013 - Present
Jam+Style PS 2013 - Present
Grind 2013 - Present
Shooter 2013 - Present
Thruster 2013 - Present
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Re: Leatherman production timeline
Reply #384 on: June 02, 2021, 03:02:28 PM
They have tried several things over the years and some have been big wins for them and others.... not so much :D


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Re: Leatherman production timeline
Reply #385 on: October 14, 2021, 06:20:39 PM
For when will they released a new Surge .............


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Re: Leatherman production timeline
Reply #386 on: October 14, 2021, 08:51:36 PM
:shrug:

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Re: Leatherman production timeline
Reply #387 on: October 25, 2021, 05:34:07 AM
Hi Team,

Remember we re-formatted the list in the first post a few weeks ago into the columnular format

At the time Ponch and Steve suggested that we leave the original list there at the bottom of the post in case anyone wanted to check/review/complain etc etc

Do you think we can remove it now?  ???    :think:
I think we should - Especially as it is incorrect on some dates and missing models    :pok:    Could cause confusion     :o

I did contact Benner at the time ....... and we have only just heard back from him - He did not specifically mention the updates to this thread and his post - So I am assuming 'silence is consent!'

I will do one last check before deletion to verify that nothing has been missed.   :tu:

 :cheers:


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Re: Leatherman production timeline
Reply #388 on: October 25, 2021, 12:05:33 PM
If the info is correct then I have no problem with that :cheers:

I might save the old list just in case :whistle: :D


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Re: Leatherman production timeline
Reply #389 on: October 25, 2021, 02:14:35 PM
I think it would be okay but someone should keep a copy in case Benner isn't okay with it, I wouldn't assume silence is consent.


 

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