Game Over, SOG wins

[Grant Lamontagne]

In the multitool world when someone asks "Who's yer daddy?" there's really only one real answer... and no, it's not Tim Leatherman, despite him having started it all.  Let's face it, size matters, and SOG has you covered with the BlackTip.



You may have seen the comparison pics that Bob posted a while ago showing the size of this behemoth compared to other tools, and you may have seen that this very month we are giving one away, but pictures won't get you ready for the sheer size of this thing when you hold it in your hands!



This thread however isn't about either size nor monthly giveaway, and I'll bet sharp eyed members already know what makes this one of particular interest.  For the rest of you who may not be familiar with the BlackTip, this one features the replaceable cutter inserts, while current issue models have more standard SOG type fixed cutters.  Here's Bob's pic showing the current issue BlackTip head compared to a regular SOG head:



I'd have my own direct comparison photos, except members voted against it!    And here is a closeup of the replaceable cutters on this one, which we shall begin to refer to as a Recalled BlackTip:



The "Recalled" part of the name isn't because some spy was reprogrammed to pretend he was a construction worker and developed it, it's because this particular version was recalled.  SOG never specified to me why they were recalled, but my guess is that the cutouts weakened the head enough that the compound leverage presented a significant breakage possibility. 

Now for the obligatory patented MTO crotch shot:



While I assume these are for clamping steel or lead weights on to your line I have to say they seem like they could crush a tank, so I'd have to say they are probably pretty effective for whatever they are designed for.  Being that close to the pivot and the compound leverage means you could have probably used these to crimp closed the gash in the side of the Titanic had anyone on board had a BlackTip.



The blade and strap cutter are pretty well typical SOG fare and taken from other models like the PowerAssist and S62 PowerLock, although they are not replaceable like many models.  The other handle holds mostly typical, replaceable SOG doodads like a cap lifter, can opener, file and Phillips screwdriver, but then there is also what SOG calls a Scaler/de-hooker.  I'll refrain from my usual comments about retired prostitutes and just say that it's well made, so I'd hope it would work well enough for what it's designed for.



At any rate, if you are looking for a giant multitool, the BlackTip may be for you.  If you are a collector, finding and obtaining a recalled BlackTip with the cutter insert is pretty much an absolute necessity.  Don't say I didn't warn you!

Def

[Syph007]

Oh that looks so cool! I really do have to get one of these badboys to do the SOG part of my tool collection justice.

Thanks for the pics!

[Taxi Dad]

Damn you boss man, why did you have to do such a good sales job ? this morning i'd never even heard of them  now i want one 
 

[nuphoria]

That really is the Daddy!

[Grant Lamontagne]

Damn you boss man, why did you have to do such a good sales job ? this morning i'd never even heard of them  now i want one 
 

You could win a normal one, but you'd need to make one heck of a donation to convince me to switch it to this one! 

Def

[dks]

I assume the pliers may be big but the inside tools will be the same size as the smaller SOGs, as is usual with SOG. I wish they will deviate a bit from the interchangeable system they have and produce some larger tools for their standard, powerxxxx line.

[Grant Lamontagne]

The knife blade is bigger.  It's still not as big as it could be, but it is the bigger blade taken from the PowerAssist.  Also, the blade handle is a lot of wasted space on this one as it has the same lock mechanism as the PowerAssist, but it doesn't have the spring assisted blades, which means all the space reserved for the spring assist module is just open space on the BlackTip.

Def

[Syph007]

The knife blade is bigger.  It's still not as big as it could be, but it is the bigger blade taken from the PowerAssist.  Also, the blade handle is a lot of wasted space on this one as it has the same lock mechanism as the PowerAssist, but it doesn't have the spring assisted blades, which means all the space reserved for the spring assist module is just open space on the BlackTip.

Def

Oh thats interesting, so really something could be modding in there to use up that space.... hmm.  Now I really gotta get one of these.   

[enki_ck]

The knife blade is bigger.  It's still not as big as it could be, but it is the bigger blade taken from the PowerAssist.  Also, the blade handle is a lot of wasted space on this one as it has the same lock mechanism as the PowerAssist, but it doesn't have the spring assisted blades, which means all the space reserved for the spring assist module is just open space on the BlackTip.

Def

I'd count that as a plus cause if it had the spring assist module it would be illegal to carry in most of Europe and a lot of other countries around the world too. Like this I can own one.

[Syph007]

The knife blade is bigger.  It's still not as big as it could be, but it is the bigger blade taken from the PowerAssist.  Also, the blade handle is a lot of wasted space on this one as it has the same lock mechanism as the PowerAssist, but it doesn't have the spring assisted blades, which means all the space reserved for the spring assist module is just open space on the BlackTip.

Def

I'd count that as a plus cause if it had the spring assist module it would be illegal to carry in most of Europe and a lot of other countries around the world too. Like this I can own one.

Also the spring assist is kind of awkward to use anyhow. Its not my fav feature of the powerassist at all, but I still had to get one to fiddle with.

[Goatlord666]

got one on the way and it's more sleepless nights because of this thread...yes SOG is truly the king! FOREVER STRONGER THAN ALL!

[AHB]

Dammit Def, you pushed me over the edge, so now I have to join in on this one.. 
Be sure to remove that dang OH blade if I win the draw.. 

[Grant Lamontagne]

The knife blade is bigger.  It's still not as big as it could be, but it is the bigger blade taken from the PowerAssist.  Also, the blade handle is a lot of wasted space on this one as it has the same lock mechanism as the PowerAssist, but it doesn't have the spring assisted blades, which means all the space reserved for the spring assist module is just open space on the BlackTip.

Def

I'd count that as a plus cause if it had the spring assist module it would be illegal to carry in most of Europe and a lot of other countries around the world too. Like this I can own one.

Also the spring assist is kind of awkward to use anyhow. Its not my fav feature of the powerassist at all, but I still had to get one to fiddle with.

Yes, I agree, the PowerAssist is a bit too complex for it's own good.  I just wish SOG had put something else in there to fill up the space.

Def

[stealth007s]

I've never owned a SOG product but this one just looks like the business.

[Grant Lamontagne]

Terry buddy, this thing is so big, if you'd have had one in the Sandbox you could have hidden behind it and saved yourself the trouble of getting blowed up! 

Def

[stealth007s]

I wouldn't doubt that

[J-sews]

Nice pics! (whoa, and I'd almost forgotten how enormous that thing is!)

[Grant Lamontagne]

Yes, it amazes me how the MUT, a large, bulky tool in it's own right is somewhat dwarfed by the BlackTip.

Def

[mulou]

the gerber groundbreaker is quite a bit  bigger

[Grant Lamontagne]

It is indeed, as is the Cable Dawg, but as neither of those fold up I wasn't considering them in the same category. 

Def

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[mulou]

no, you're right, i'm just being a smartass :p
ive a blacktip and its huge for this kind of tool

the replacable cutter are neat tho... neat neat neat

[Goatlord666]

It is indeed, as is the Cable Dawg, but as neither of those fold up I wasn't considering them in the same category. 

Def

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not to deviate from the Almighty Blacktip Fisherman's II..but the Cable Dawg is another mean, big bulldozer of an mt too ...hehehe

[Grant Lamontagne]

no, you're right, i'm just being a smartass :p
ive a blacktip and its huge for this kind of tool

the replacable cutter are neat tho... neat neat neat

No worries- we could always use another smartass around here! 

Def

[ducttapetech]

Better to be a smartass than a dumbass.
I really like that multi. That would go great with my SOG Vulcan.

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[MultiMat]

I think I have found a folding tool that out compounds SOG on the wire cutting front 





A Aussie made ,1943 WWII army issue Sunshine wire cutter.


Good to hear the Blacktip's blades are not AO  ,I have been meaning to ask that, should be legal in Oz too.

[stealth007s]

I think I have found a folding tool that out compounds SOG on the wire cutting front 

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A Aussie made ,1943 WWII army issue Sunshine wire cutter.


Good to hear the Blacktip's blades are not AO  ,I have been meaning to ask that, should be legal in Oz too.

Now that's some leverage Mat!¡! I'm sure they would slice through barbed wire like butter

[MultiMat]

I think I have found a folding tool that out compounds SOG on the wire cutting front 

(Image removed from quote.)

(Image removed from quote.)

A Aussie made ,1943 WWII army issue Sunshine wire cutter.


Good to hear the Blacktip's blades are not AO  ,I have been meaning to ask that, should be legal in Oz too.

Now that's some leverage Mat!¡! I'm sure they would slice through barbed wire like butter

Terry it is funny when I saw the auction photos there was no scale & I thought the tool was half it's actual size  .

The manufacture 'Sunshine' was once the biggest manufacturer in the southern hemisphere mainly making agricultural equipment, they closed down some time ago. During WWII they made pliers & wire cutters. I believe this is indeed the bared wire cutter  . I tried it on the thickest piece of wire I had in the shed, a chunky old coat hanger, & initially I thought 'why hasn't the wire cut yet'?. I think it was just the amount of handle movement required to cut is quite large , ie the compound leverage, especially when compared to a SOG  . I must ask a friend that has a small farm if I could try it out on some spare barbed wire  . I think you are right , they should eat barbed wire   

[stealth007s]

I think I have found a folding tool that out compounds SOG on the wire cutting front 

(Image removed from quote.)

(Image removed from quote.)

A Aussie made ,1943 WWII army issue Sunshine wire cutter.


Good to hear the Blacktip's blades are not AO  ,I have been meaning to ask that, should be legal in Oz too.

Now that's some leverage Mat!¡! I'm sure they would slice through barbed wire like butter

Terry it is funny when I saw the auction photos there was no scale & I thought the tool was half it's actual size  .

The manufacture 'Sunshine' was once the biggest manufacturer in the southern hemisphere mainly making agricultural equipment, they closed down some time ago. During WWII they made pliers & wire cutters. I believe this is indeed the bared wire cutter  . I tried it on the thickest piece of wire I had in the shed, a chunky old coat hanger, & initially I thought 'why hasn't the wire cut yet'?. I think it was just the amount of handle movement required to cut is quite large , ie the compound leverage, especially when compared to a SOG  . I must ask a friend that has a small farm if I could try it out on some spare barbed wire  . I think you are right , they should eat barbed wire 

Yeah, that thing is nearly 20 inches!¡! HUGE!¡!


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[Grant Lamontagne]

That thing is a monster Mat!

Oh and yes, you are right about the Blacktip being legal in Oz.  Even with the safety lock disengaged there is no way to flick this thing open.

Def

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