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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #600 on: October 19, 2019, 06:25:14 PM
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #601 on: October 20, 2019, 12:04:07 AM
Fake Rescue Tool for sale:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Pocket-Knife-StayGlow-111mm-Rescue-Tool-Survival/133205153001
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Kamakiri, I apologize in advance for my ignorance in these matters, but how could you tell this one is fake? I compared the pics to the photo on Sakwiki and couldn't really spot the difference(s?). What gave it away?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 12:19:44 AM by Simon_Templar »


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #602 on: October 20, 2019, 12:31:56 AM
Can I chip in ?  ???    :tu:

ST Please don't apologise - We love questions like this and this site is all about discussing stuff and sharing our knowledge.

Very good question - But I agree with KK - This is a fake

There were  a lot of (very good) fakes around when this model first came out as it is a high value item
For this one clues are
- The toothpick and tweezer slots are too big - They 'fit' exactly on real Vics
- The serrations on the main and belt cutter blade are too pointy
- The Vic logo and 'Rescue Tool' text are unlikely to fade/wear like that (as much) on a real one
- Oh and the 'big' one - A hole in the awl - Liner lock 111mm models never had the hole !!
- Also the point on the window breaker looks too smooth!

This is a very good fake and these differences are very hard to spot - Which is a shame for ebay buyers

Another clue was the shape of the thumb hole - But that looks about right on this one
There is an article around somewhere I will dig it out.

EDIT: Here is the article from Archerwin's blog..
http://archerwinsak.blogspot.com/2014/06/review-how-to-spot-fake-victorinox.html
And it looks like the hole is wrong in this fake as per the article!
Also if you search this forum - You'll find a few articles on this topic  :tu:
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 02:59:42 AM by Huntsman »


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #603 on: October 20, 2019, 12:37:01 AM
Simon_Templar, thanks for asking, I too was wondering.
Huntsman, thanks for explaining, I see the problems now.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #604 on: October 20, 2019, 01:35:30 AM
Can I chip in ?  ???    :tu:

Can I still say 'no'?  :tu:   ;)

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Simon - Huntsman got you covered with the reasons. First thing that caught my eye were the serrations. But it goes downhill from there immediately.  Judging knives from crappy auction photos takes a bit of practice and painful moments in between...

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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #605 on: October 20, 2019, 05:58:08 AM
I also don't think the genuine ones have that type of tang stamp.

Reported (yesterday). But the ad is still there :)
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #606 on: October 20, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
Can I chip in ?  ???    :tu:

ST Please don't apologise - We love questions like this and this site is all about discussing stuff and sharing our knowledge.

Very good question - But I agree with KK - This is a fake

There were  a lot of (very good) fakes around when this model first came out as it is a high value item
For this one clues are
- The toothpick and tweezer slots are too big - They 'fit' exactly on real Vics
- The serrations on the main and belt cutter blade are too pointy
- The Vic logo and 'Rescue Tool' text are unlikely to fade/wear like that (as much) on a real one
- Oh and the 'big' one - A hole in the awl - Liner lock 111mm models never had the hole !!
- Also the point on the window breaker looks too smooth!

This is a very good fake and these differences are very hard to spot - Which is a shame for ebay buyers

Another clue was the shape of the thumb hole - But that looks about right on this one
There is an article around somewhere I will dig it out.

EDIT: Here is the article from Archerwin's blog..
http://archerwinsak.blogspot.com/2014/06/review-how-to-spot-fake-victorinox.html
And it looks like the hole is wrong in this fake as per the article!
Also if you search this forum - You'll find a few articles on this topic  :tu:

Many thanks, Huntsman et al., that is very interesting indeed!  :tu:

I did notice that the TT slots looked a bit too recessed. But the TT seemed to fit fine, so I thought nothing of it. I will pay more attention to that detail in the future. The liner lock/awl thing is obviously big. But you need to know the 111mm line - or at least the Rescue Tool - in detail to spot that. I sure didn't   :(

For educational purposes, it would be great if you experts could explain the details of an elaborate fake when you post it in this thread. I consult it every once in a while to learn more about fakes and I am sure others do too.

By the way, I just had a deeper look into the ebay seller: "knifelady80" has a good reputation and seems to deal in used Vics on a large scale. I imagine she doesn't know herself the thing is fake - maybe one of you should let her know.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 10:47:08 AM by Simon_Templar »


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #607 on: October 20, 2019, 10:34:21 AM
It has the be said that the elongulated hole on the fake was actually correct on the early production runs before Vic switched to the round hole.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #608 on: October 20, 2019, 02:08:02 PM
I just sent a message to the seller to inform her that it is a knock-off. I included pictures of a genuine Rescue Tool. The biggest giveaway is that the locking liner does not extend the full length so that it can lock both the blade and screwdriver.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #609 on: October 20, 2019, 05:48:21 PM
For educational purposes, it would be great if you experts could explain the details of an elaborate fake when you post it in this thread. I consult it every once in a while to learn more about fakes and I am sure others do too.
There are already a lot of articles and posts/threads and youtube videos specifically about the Rescue Tool fakes.  I mostly wanted to post that I saw one so that nobody here would buy it unknowingly. Honestly, I almost want it just for the example as I don't have one.

I think otherwise, this thread is a great resource for learning about fake SAKs. Perhaps the best place.  Earlier this year I posted about some knives that I thought were 'obvious' fakes...I was wrong.  :facepalm:  Another reason for me to post about it here.


By the way, I just had a deeper look into the ebay seller: "knifelady80" has a good reputation and seems to deal in used Vics on a large scale. I imagine she doesn't know herself the thing is fake - maybe one of you should let her know.
Oh, I did that days before I posted it (just checked - was 10/16).  Thought I'd give her a chance to pull/cancel the auction.  I'm really surprised it wasn't at least amended...hence my post.  She does provide good enough pictures that she shouldn't have any issues with a return, which she does allow.  Perhaps she doubted that I knew what I was talking about.  :dunno:
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #610 on: October 21, 2019, 08:16:40 AM
There are already a lot of articles and posts/threads and youtube videos specifically about the Rescue Tool fakes.  I mostly wanted to post that I saw one so that nobody here would buy it unknowingly. Honestly, I almost want it just for the example as I don't have one.

I think otherwise, this thread is a great resource for learning about fake SAKs. Perhaps the best place.  Earlier this year I posted about some knives that I thought were 'obvious' fakes...I was wrong.  :facepalm:  Another reason for me to post about it here.

 Oh, I did that days before I posted it (just checked - was 10/16).  Thought I'd give her a chance to pull/cancel the auction.  I'm really surprised it wasn't at least amended...hence my post.  She does provide good enough pictures that she shouldn't have any issues with a return, which she does allow.  Perhaps she doubted that I knew what I was talking about.  :dunno:

Well it is a really good fake SAK, one of the best i've seen so far. This one could fool a lot of people, and I can't really blame them for being fooled. Only if you really invested a lot of time in SAKs you'd be able to tell it's a fake. Good chance the seller simply doesn't believe it's fake.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #611 on: October 21, 2019, 04:28:40 PM
Well it is a really good fake SAK, one of the best i've seen so far. This one could fool a lot of people, and I can't really blame them for being fooled. Only if you really invested a lot of time in SAKs you'd be able to tell it's a fake. Good chance the seller simply doesn't believe it's fake.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #612 on: October 28, 2019, 04:04:03 PM
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #613 on: October 28, 2019, 10:05:24 PM
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #614 on: March 08, 2020, 01:12:40 PM
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #615 on: March 08, 2020, 09:05:19 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264659327910
I found that thing in my granddads shed! I think helped me fall down the multitool hole. :think:
Shame on the seller for trying to pass it off as a SAK. :twak:
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #616 on: September 25, 2020, 09:06:46 AM
Nice Mercedes Victorinox

https://www.ebay.de/itm/392957248873

Except it's a Richartz :facepalm:
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #617 on: September 25, 2020, 10:44:03 AM
Nice Mercedes Victorinox

https://www.ebay.de/itm/392957248873

Except it's a Richartz :facepalm:

Looks like the seller has corrected their ad to Richartz  :tu:
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Reply #618 on: September 25, 2020, 10:51:00 AM
Looks like the seller has corrected their ad to Richartz  :tu:

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I sent the seller a message and he or she replied stating it was just a mistake.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #619 on: September 26, 2020, 09:34:56 AM
"From Russia with love": fake Victorinox on the Meshok marketplace:D





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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #620 on: October 14, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #621 on: October 15, 2020, 07:21:33 AM
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #622 on: October 15, 2020, 07:24:03 AM
Brand: Victorinox
Made in: Sweden :facepalm:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203135418497

Except it's a bunch of rusty garbage.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #623 on: December 22, 2020, 10:38:09 AM
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #624 on: December 22, 2020, 10:39:33 AM
Brand: Victorinox

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383869174737

Yeah, sure!
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #625 on: January 07, 2021, 10:15:31 PM
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #626 on: January 07, 2021, 10:25:11 PM
Victorinox? Yeah, right! :facepalm:


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Reply #627 on: January 07, 2021, 10:40:21 PM
That one even says CHINA. They didn't even try to make a proper fake!
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #628 on: January 08, 2021, 10:44:06 AM
These are not fakes per se but the seller has made several listing errors. This is browsing manipulation and not allowed on eBay.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
Reply #629 on: February 05, 2021, 04:25:55 PM
https://www.ebay.de/itm/254851585046

Puke vomit crap aargh crap  :twak: :rant:
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