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Fake Swiss Army knife report list 54399

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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #600 on: October 19, 2019, 06:25:14 PM »

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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #601 on: October 20, 2019, 12:04:07 AM »
Fake Rescue Tool for sale:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Pocket-Knife-StayGlow-111mm-Rescue-Tool-Survival/133205153001
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Kamakiri, I apologize in advance for my ignorance in these matters, but how could you tell this one is fake? I compared the pics to the photo on Sakwiki and couldn't really spot the difference(s?). What gave it away?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 12:19:44 AM by Simon_Templar »
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #602 on: October 20, 2019, 12:31:56 AM »
Can I chip in ?  ???    :tu:

ST Please don't apologise - We love questions like this and this site is all about discussing stuff and sharing our knowledge.

Very good question - But I agree with KK - This is a fake

There were  a lot of (very good) fakes around when this model first came out as it is a high value item
For this one clues are
- The toothpick and tweezer slots are too big - They 'fit' exactly on real Vics
- The serrations on the main and belt cutter blade are too pointy
- The Vic logo and 'Rescue Tool' text are unlikely to fade/wear like that (as much) on a real one
- Oh and the 'big' one - A hole in the awl - Liner lock 111mm models never had the hole !!
- Also the point on the window breaker looks too smooth!

This is a very good fake and these differences are very hard to spot - Which is a shame for ebay buyers

Another clue was the shape of the thumb hole - But that looks about right on this one
There is an article around somewhere I will dig it out.

EDIT: Here is the article from Archerwin's blog..
http://archerwinsak.blogspot.com/2014/06/review-how-to-spot-fake-victorinox.html
And it looks like the hole is wrong in this fake as per the article!
Also if you search this forum - You'll find a few articles on this topic  :tu:
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 02:59:42 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #603 on: October 20, 2019, 12:37:01 AM »
Simon_Templar, thanks for asking, I too was wondering.
Huntsman, thanks for explaining, I see the problems now.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #604 on: October 20, 2019, 01:35:30 AM »
Can I chip in ?  ???    :tu:

Can I still say 'no'?  :tu:   ;)

...

Simon - Huntsman got you covered with the reasons. First thing that caught my eye were the serrations. But it goes downhill from there immediately.  Judging knives from crappy auction photos takes a bit of practice and painful moments in between...


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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #605 on: October 20, 2019, 05:58:08 AM »
I also don't think the genuine ones have that type of tang stamp.

Reported (yesterday). But the ad is still there :)

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #606 on: October 20, 2019, 09:15:10 AM »
Can I chip in ?  ???    :tu:

ST Please don't apologise - We love questions like this and this site is all about discussing stuff and sharing our knowledge.

Very good question - But I agree with KK - This is a fake

There were  a lot of (very good) fakes around when this model first came out as it is a high value item
For this one clues are
- The toothpick and tweezer slots are too big - They 'fit' exactly on real Vics
- The serrations on the main and belt cutter blade are too pointy
- The Vic logo and 'Rescue Tool' text are unlikely to fade/wear like that (as much) on a real one
- Oh and the 'big' one - A hole in the awl - Liner lock 111mm models never had the hole !!
- Also the point on the window breaker looks too smooth!

This is a very good fake and these differences are very hard to spot - Which is a shame for ebay buyers

Another clue was the shape of the thumb hole - But that looks about right on this one
There is an article around somewhere I will dig it out.

EDIT: Here is the article from Archerwin's blog..
http://archerwinsak.blogspot.com/2014/06/review-how-to-spot-fake-victorinox.html
And it looks like the hole is wrong in this fake as per the article!
Also if you search this forum - You'll find a few articles on this topic  :tu:

Many thanks, Huntsman et al., that is very interesting indeed!  :tu:

I did notice that the TT slots looked a bit too recessed. But the TT seemed to fit fine, so I thought nothing of it. I will pay more attention to that detail in the future. The liner lock/awl thing is obviously big. But you need to know the 111mm line - or at least the Rescue Tool - in detail to spot that. I sure didn't   :(

For educational purposes, it would be great if you experts could explain the details of an elaborate fake when you post it in this thread. I consult it every once in a while to learn more about fakes and I am sure others do too.

By the way, I just had a deeper look into the ebay seller: "knifelady80" has a good reputation and seems to deal in used Vics on a large scale. I imagine she doesn't know herself the thing is fake - maybe one of you should let her know.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2019, 10:47:08 AM by Simon_Templar »
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #607 on: October 20, 2019, 10:34:21 AM »
It has the be said that the elongulated hole on the fake was actually correct on the early production runs before Vic switched to the round hole.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #608 on: October 20, 2019, 02:08:02 PM »
I just sent a message to the seller to inform her that it is a knock-off. I included pictures of a genuine Rescue Tool. The biggest giveaway is that the locking liner does not extend the full length so that it can lock both the blade and screwdriver.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #609 on: October 20, 2019, 05:48:21 PM »
For educational purposes, it would be great if you experts could explain the details of an elaborate fake when you post it in this thread. I consult it every once in a while to learn more about fakes and I am sure others do too.
There are already a lot of articles and posts/threads and youtube videos specifically about the Rescue Tool fakes.  I mostly wanted to post that I saw one so that nobody here would buy it unknowingly. Honestly, I almost want it just for the example as I don't have one.

I think otherwise, this thread is a great resource for learning about fake SAKs. Perhaps the best place.  Earlier this year I posted about some knives that I thought were 'obvious' fakes...I was wrong.  :facepalm:  Another reason for me to post about it here.


By the way, I just had a deeper look into the ebay seller: "knifelady80" has a good reputation and seems to deal in used Vics on a large scale. I imagine she doesn't know herself the thing is fake - maybe one of you should let her know.
Oh, I did that days before I posted it (just checked - was 10/16).  Thought I'd give her a chance to pull/cancel the auction.  I'm really surprised it wasn't at least amended...hence my post.  She does provide good enough pictures that she shouldn't have any issues with a return, which she does allow.  Perhaps she doubted that I knew what I was talking about.  :dunno:

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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #610 on: October 21, 2019, 08:16:40 AM »
There are already a lot of articles and posts/threads and youtube videos specifically about the Rescue Tool fakes.  I mostly wanted to post that I saw one so that nobody here would buy it unknowingly. Honestly, I almost want it just for the example as I don't have one.

I think otherwise, this thread is a great resource for learning about fake SAKs. Perhaps the best place.  Earlier this year I posted about some knives that I thought were 'obvious' fakes...I was wrong.  :facepalm:  Another reason for me to post about it here.

 Oh, I did that days before I posted it (just checked - was 10/16).  Thought I'd give her a chance to pull/cancel the auction.  I'm really surprised it wasn't at least amended...hence my post.  She does provide good enough pictures that she shouldn't have any issues with a return, which she does allow.  Perhaps she doubted that I knew what I was talking about.  :dunno:

Well it is a really good fake SAK, one of the best i've seen so far. This one could fool a lot of people, and I can't really blame them for being fooled. Only if you really invested a lot of time in SAKs you'd be able to tell it's a fake. Good chance the seller simply doesn't believe it's fake.

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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #611 on: October 21, 2019, 04:28:40 PM »
Well it is a really good fake SAK, one of the best i've seen so far. This one could fool a lot of people, and I can't really blame them for being fooled. Only if you really invested a lot of time in SAKs you'd be able to tell it's a fake. Good chance the seller simply doesn't believe it's fake.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #612 on: October 28, 2019, 04:04:03 PM »

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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #613 on: October 28, 2019, 10:05:24 PM »

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #614 on: March 08, 2020, 01:12:40 PM »

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #615 on: March 08, 2020, 09:05:19 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264659327910
I found that thing in my granddads shed! I think helped me fall down the multitool hole. :think:
Shame on the seller for trying to pass it off as a SAK. :twak:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #616 on: September 25, 2020, 09:06:46 AM »
Nice Mercedes Victorinox

https://www.ebay.de/itm/392957248873

Except it's a Richartz :facepalm:

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #617 on: September 25, 2020, 10:44:03 AM »
Nice Mercedes Victorinox

https://www.ebay.de/itm/392957248873

Except it's a Richartz :facepalm:

Looks like the seller has corrected their ad to Richartz  :tu:

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #618 on: September 25, 2020, 10:51:00 AM »
Looks like the seller has corrected their ad to Richartz  :tu:

:tu:
I sent the seller a message and he or she replied stating it was just a mistake.

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #620 on: October 14, 2020, 07:56:13 PM »

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #621 on: October 15, 2020, 07:21:33 AM »

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #622 on: October 15, 2020, 07:24:03 AM »
Brand: Victorinox
Made in: Sweden :facepalm:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203135418497

Except it's a bunch of rusty garbage.

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #623 on: December 22, 2020, 10:38:09 AM »

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #624 on: December 22, 2020, 10:39:33 AM »
Brand: Victorinox

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383869174737

Yeah, sure!

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #625 on: January 07, 2021, 10:15:31 PM »

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #626 on: January 07, 2021, 10:25:11 PM »
Victorinox? Yeah, right! :facepalm:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #627 on: January 07, 2021, 10:40:21 PM »
That one even says CHINA. They didn't even try to make a proper fake!

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #628 on: January 08, 2021, 10:44:06 AM »
These are not fakes per se but the seller has made several listing errors. This is browsing manipulation and not allowed on eBay.

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,125 \o/
Re: Fake Swiss Army knife report list
« Reply #629 on: February 05, 2021, 04:25:55 PM »
https://www.ebay.de/itm/254851585046

Puke vomit crap aargh crap  :twak: :rant:

You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.

 

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