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Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes

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nz Offline zoidberg

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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #120 on: May 11, 2016, 12:06:46 AM
Last years pic will have to do for now...



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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #121 on: May 11, 2016, 12:08:47 AM
Cool pic Zman!
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #122 on: May 11, 2016, 12:11:54 AM
Thank you David.   :cheers:


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #123 on: May 11, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
I managed to dig out the Woodman's Pal. I had put it safely away where I would be sure to find it, but I couldn't remember where I had put it.  :facepalm:
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #124 on: May 11, 2016, 06:12:20 AM

I like the look of those Alan  :tu:
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #125 on: May 11, 2016, 09:23:23 AM
I find the Woodman's Pal is more like a hatchet than a machete.  They leave the toe of the blade unsharpened so you won't cut yourself if you hit your boot, and also, so you can use it somewhat as a pick when digging.  Most people I know who have one ended up sharpening the blade to the end because they find it more useful that way when used for its primary job which is chopping. I'm still undecided about sharpening it to the end of the blade as that is a modification that can not be undone.


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #126 on: May 11, 2016, 09:21:42 PM
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I think I would have to sharpen it if it were mine  :D
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #127 on: May 12, 2016, 12:56:00 AM
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I think I would have to sharpen it if it were mine  :D

I am leaning in that direction as well.  I'm also thinking it needs to be sharpened more towards the handle too. They leave a lot of undeveloped real estate on those blades.  I would guess, that because it is intended as a military survival tool, the designers wanted it to be safe to use.  No sense in surviving a helicopter crash only to then cut your hand open.


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #128 on: May 13, 2016, 03:15:03 PM
My bill hook on root duty
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #129 on: May 13, 2016, 03:57:04 PM
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #130 on: May 17, 2016, 10:41:57 AM


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #131 on: May 18, 2016, 04:14:22 PM
When I was looking at the Condor range I definitely considered that one. :tu:

I like it but hate that it's convexed...... :(

You don't like it because its convexed?
I thought a convexed edge was best  :think:


Nice one Steve  :drool:

It probably is but I don't want the best on these kind of tools. I want something I can hit a few licks with a mill smurf file and keep going instead of relearning how to sharpen it. Always have a file around the farm or in my gear.

Necro quote/reply  :whistle:

So you start with a convexed edge, a well-supported edge suited to purpose - what prohibits you from sharpening it with a file?

Sadly I find heat treatments and grind angles&types more interesting than naked women (for instance), and currently interested in the experience of users vs the theories.......

I have a huge downer on hollow grinds going on.....


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #132 on: May 19, 2016, 01:44:07 PM
I am a long time machete user.  If you read my review of the Fiskars Machete Saw you'll see why you don't want a concave edge on a machete. http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,64206.0.html  In the review I commented that the concave edge caused the machete to turn in the branches, splitting them along the grain, instead of severing them outright.  This meant more work for me as it took multiple swings with the machete to cut through thin branches that a proper edge would have cleaved in a single swing.
I do sharpen my machetes with a file in the field and they hold an edge very well when it's done right.

This explains the convex edge fairly well.  http://site.baryonyxknife.com/blog/2014/08/11/why-convex-edges-are-awesome-its-not-why-you-think/


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #133 on: May 20, 2016, 10:46:22 AM


I'm lichen the finish on that....  :tu:


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #134 on: May 20, 2016, 11:09:43 PM
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #135 on: May 24, 2016, 04:00:56 AM



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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #137 on: May 27, 2016, 11:12:13 AM
I am a long time machete user.  If you read my review of the Fiskars Machete Saw you'll see why you don't want a concave edge on a machete. http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,64206.0.html  In the review I commented that the concave edge caused the machete to turn in the branches, splitting them along the grain, instead of severing them outright.  This meant more work for me as it took multiple swings with the machete to cut through thin branches that a proper edge would have cleaved in a single swing.
I do sharpen my machetes with a file in the field and they hold an edge very well when it's done right.

This explains the convex edge fairly well.  http://site.baryonyxknife.com/blog/2014/08/11/why-convex-edges-are-awesome-its-not-why-you-think/

Can't open the 2nd link from work, will check later......

Can you just clear up (see highlighted) - you mention you don't want a concave edge, which is a hollow grind.......?


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #138 on: May 28, 2016, 12:49:57 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grind

The edge is so narrow that instead of compressing fiber in front of it and biting into the wood until it had cut completely through a green branch, it would cut only as deep as the height of the edge where the shoulders of the edge would catch preventing it from cutting any deeper, and then the momentum of the cut would turn the blade into the grain and split the green branches I was trying to sever.  The bite of a machete is different than the bite of an axe.  With an axe you want to remove chunks but with a machete you want to slice through something with a swing that ideally would end on the other side of the branch you are cutting.  If cutting thicker branches with a machete, you know you're not getting through them in one swing, but in your mind's eye you picture the blade going through in order to have the correct swing.  You are mentally anticipating the follow through on the other side of a branch in order to put that cut where you want it. This is similar to when you think about your golf swing where you're picturing the head of the club going through the ball and continuing around your body.  When the concave edge of the Fiskars turned into the grain and split the branches I was trying to cut instead of severing them, it completely threw off my game.


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #139 on: July 21, 2016, 06:51:30 PM
I had half a chance to use my new CRKT Halfachance on some palm fronds today.  It's a good cutter, and very comfortable in the hand.  Not quite as sharp as I'd like, but the factory edge from CRKT is very good right out of the box and will do for some time.
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #140 on: July 21, 2016, 09:45:01 PM
Can't think I've seen that one before Alan, very nice mate.  The handle/blade angle just looks "right".  :tu:
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #141 on: July 22, 2016, 07:14:40 AM
Good looking steel there Alan!   :)
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #142 on: July 22, 2016, 08:00:34 AM

That looks like a useful tool Alan  :tu:
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #143 on: November 06, 2016, 09:14:10 AM


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #144 on: November 06, 2016, 09:15:09 AM


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #145 on: November 06, 2016, 09:16:09 AM


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #146 on: November 06, 2016, 10:39:31 AM
Looks like you've been having fun mate. :tu:
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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #147 on: November 08, 2016, 01:59:56 AM
Looks like you've been having fun mate. :tu:

Some very nice shots to go with all the fun :cheers: :like:


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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #148 on: February 21, 2017, 04:05:09 PM
Well after a conversation with Tony the other night I talked myself into this.

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Re: Show us your Billhooks, Slashers, Machetes
Reply #149 on: February 21, 2017, 06:37:57 PM
Very nice mate. :tu:  I got the condor golok and while I have a slight quibble with the design there's no question that I think it's a tough tool.
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