SO I am on my last day of my trip and my nephew shows me an old knife that was his Granddads form South Africa - no please forgive me if the answer is there any I just did not see it.
I am trying to work out if this is a 84 mm Popular or not, as on SAKWIKI it does not list a version without a keyring but there is a picture of one without - I can not see anything else this can be as the other 84 one layer two black knifes don't come in ribbed red, and I ruled out the Secretary as these only seem to be smooth alox.
any help would be welcomed - I offered to take it home and get it sent to Vic for a repair for him as it would be nice for him to be able to use