What could Victorinox add as a new SAK tool?

[splico]

Pez dispenser.

+1 

[Steinar]

A kiridashi or straight scalpel style blade. Would be tricky to incorporate in a folder with the right angles and make it look good, but it would be quite useful.

[Etherealicer]

@1/4" BIT DRIVER
First off, Victorinox cannot have an adapter for LM-bits unless they buy LM (cooperate with LM, buy the licence)
And yes at first I was also compelled by that idea.
A full sized Bit-Holder would make up a very fat layer. I also think what makes the 4mm CyberTool great is the capability to store 3 more bits. with the larger 1/4" bits there would be little to no room and therefore diminish the value of a bit holder. I think the 4mm CyberTool Bit-Driver is actually the right size for a SAK. Considering that you can buy the SwissTool Bit-Kits separately I think SAKs don't need a 1/4" bit holder.
However, if you have a SAK as a companion to a LM tool, it would of course be great to have the LM bit-holder just so the tools complement each other.

Ferro rod
This is rather a consumable and would IMO make more sense to be incorporated into the sheath.

Blade Exchanger (Metal Saw / File)
Love the idea though size probably would dictate that this is more for the 111mm not for 91mm. I rather see an adapter for small utility blade.

[enki_ck]

@1/4" BIT DRIVER
First off, Victorinox cannot have an adapter for LM-bits unless they buy LM (cooperate with LM, buy the licence)
And yes at first I was also compelled by that idea.
A full sized Bit-Holder would make up a very fat layer. I also think what makes the 4mm CyberTool great is the capability to store 3 more bits. with the larger 1/4" bits there would be little to no room and therefore diminish the value of a bit holder. I think the 4mm CyberTool Bit-Driver is actually the right size for a SAK. Considering that you can buy the SwissTool Bit-Kits separately I think SAKs don't need a 1/4" bit holder.
However, if you have a SAK as a companion to a LM tool, it would of course be great to have the LM bit-holder just so the tools complement each other.
...

Well Wenger already did that with the Pocketgrip and I don't see why they can integrate those into the current Vic offerings now.

Hope kniv-per doesn't mind me using his pics.

[ICanFixThat]

I do like the 4mm bit driver and I think it's design was the right choice for those SAKs, it's a fabulous tool.  Now why they cannot make more bits available as an add on set makes no sense to me. They are not taking full advantage of this driver.  They should have a full kit that one could carry or just use to select the bits they needed in the tool. Maybe they plan to, but it's taking too long.

Maybe we need to manufacture our own bits?  Not sure why Felinevet never carried the extra bits, I know they were quite expensive to import from the tool makers, and I don't think Vic offered the few extra bits they had as separate items.

[enki_ck]

I do like the 4mm bit driver and I think it's design was the right choice for those SAKs, it's a fabulous tool.  Now why they cannot make more bits available as an add on set makes no sense to me. They are not taking full advantage of this driver.  They should have a full kit that one could carry or just use to select the bits they needed in the tool. Maybe they plan to, but it's taking too long.

Maybe we need to manufacture our own bits?  Not sure why Felinevet never carried the extra bits, I know they were quite expensive to import from the tool makers, and I don't think Vic offered the few extra bits they had as separate items.

I think he had them at some point.

The extra bits are easily available in Europe. My local distributor has them all for a bit under $4 (23,00 kn).

A.7680.14 Bit 20-21 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.20 Bit 17-18 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.34 Bit TX6/TX8 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.35 Bit TX10/TX15 to CyberTool special 23,00 kn
A.7680.60 Bit to CyberTool, 1,2 mm / 1,5 mm 23,00 kn
A.7680.62 Bit to CyberTool, 2,0 mm / 2,5 mm 23,00 kn
A.7680.64 Bit 22-23 to CyberTool 23,00 kn

The regular 4mm bits that are widely available lack the ball baring to keep them in place and I've yet to find a manufacturer that makes those. A few members here have modified theirs with a bit of shrink tube though and say it works.

[TECENG]

A pair of split ring pliers.

As many times as I keep changing up my keychain...

[Syph007]

I do like the 4mm bit driver and I think it's design was the right choice for those SAKs, it's a fabulous tool.  Now why they cannot make more bits available as an add on set makes no sense to me. They are not taking full advantage of this driver.  They should have a full kit that one could carry or just use to select the bits they needed in the tool. Maybe they plan to, but it's taking too long.

Maybe we need to manufacture our own bits?  Not sure why Felinevet never carried the extra bits, I know they were quite expensive to import from the tool makers, and I don't think Vic offered the few extra bits they had as separate items.

I think he had them at some point.

The extra bits are easily available in Europe. My local distributor has them all for a bit under $4 (23,00 kn).

A.7680.14 Bit 20-21 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.20 Bit 17-18 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.34 Bit TX6/TX8 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.35 Bit TX10/TX15 to CyberTool special 23,00 kn
A.7680.60 Bit to CyberTool, 1,2 mm / 1,5 mm 23,00 kn
A.7680.62 Bit to CyberTool, 2,0 mm / 2,5 mm 23,00 kn
A.7680.64 Bit 22-23 to CyberTool 23,00 kn

The regular 4mm bits that are widely available lack the ball baring to keep them in place and I've yet to find a manufacturer that makes those. A few members here have modified theirs with a bit of shrink tube though and say it works.

I cant remember who, but didnt someone here put a small magnet in their driver to use any type of bit.  I think thats the solution.

[crackout]

* nailfile for the 91mm range
* small serrated blade or a second full size serrated blade
* an SOS battery pack layer that can store at least 1000mAh
* a removable sharpening steel
* a magnet

[Syph007]

* nailfile for the 91mm range
* small serrated blade or a second full size serrated blade
* an SOS battery pack layer that can store at least 1000mAh
* a removable sharpening steel
* a magnet

That one makes alot of sense since most saks have 2 blades, a small serrated blade is handy for those times you need to rip though something.  Ive serrated a couple small blades on request and they were quite effective.

[splico]

That one makes alot of sense since most saks have 2 blades, a small serrated blade is handy for those times you need to rip though something.  Ive serrated a couple small blades on request and they were quite effective.

How diffficult is this job? Any pic on forum?

[Syph007]

That one makes alot of sense since most saks have 2 blades, a small serrated blade is handy for those times you need to rip though something.  Ive serrated a couple small blades on request and they were quite effective.

How diffficult is this job? Any pic on forum?

Very easy, just a dremel and a steady hand.  Not factory perfect, but very functional when I tested ripping through cardboard and various packaging.

[splico]

Great blade Syph. 

[mrynnr]

What can't you do Syph007...

[Syph007]

What can't you do Syph007...

Understand women! 

[splico]

What can't you do Syph007...

Understand women! 

[mrynnr]

What can't you do Syph007...

Understand women! 

Not all women are created equal some are actually pretty straight forward. None of this hidden messages crap lol.

[Etherealicer]

I do like the 4mm bit driver and I think it's design was the right choice for those SAKs, it's a fabulous tool.  Now why they cannot make more bits available as an add on set makes no sense to me. They are not taking full advantage of this driver.  They should have a full kit that one could carry or just use to select the bits they needed in the tool. Maybe they plan to, but it's taking too long.

Maybe we need to manufacture our own bits?  Not sure why Felinevet never carried the extra bits, I know they were quite expensive to import from the tool makers, and I don't think Vic offered the few extra bits they had as separate items.

I think he had them at some point.

The extra bits are easily available in Europe. My local distributor has them all for a bit under $4 (23,00 kn).

A.7680.14 Bit 20-21 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.20 Bit 17-18 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.34 Bit TX6/TX8 to CyberTool 23,00 kn
A.7680.35 Bit TX10/TX15 to CyberTool special 23,00 kn
A.7680.60 Bit to CyberTool, 1,2 mm / 1,5 mm 23,00 kn
A.7680.62 Bit to CyberTool, 2,0 mm / 2,5 mm 23,00 kn
A.7680.64 Bit 22-23 to CyberTool 23,00 kn

The regular 4mm bits that are widely available lack the ball baring to keep them in place and I've yet to find a manufacturer that makes those. A few members here have modified theirs with a bit of shrink tube though and say it works.

I cant remember who, but didnt someone here put a small magnet in their driver to use any type of bit.  I think thats the solution.

kkokkolis

[Etherealicer]

@1/4" BIT DRIVER
First off, Victorinox cannot have an adapter for LM-bits unless they buy LM (cooperate with LM, buy the licence)
And yes at first I was also compelled by that idea.
A full sized Bit-Holder would make up a very fat layer. I also think what makes the 4mm CyberTool great is the capability to store 3 more bits. with the larger 1/4" bits there would be little to no room and therefore diminish the value of a bit holder. I think the 4mm CyberTool Bit-Driver is actually the right size for a SAK. Considering that you can buy the SwissTool Bit-Kits separately I think SAKs don't need a 1/4" bit holder.
However, if you have a SAK as a companion to a LM tool, it would of course be great to have the LM bit-holder just so the tools complement each other.
...

Well Wenger already did that with the Pocketgrip and I don't see why they can integrate those into the current Vic offerings now.

Hope kniv-per doesn't mind me using his pics.
(Image removed from quote.)

Well, that is a gigantic over-sized layer, defying what is best about SAKs, their compact frame. And its not actually smaller than the separate bit-kit. I think the pocket-grip is a typical Wenger. Its kinda nice, kinda cool, kinda interesting idea but I wouldn't want it .
That said, there is obviously demand and that's probably more important than my opinion

P.S.: If they want to do anything new bit-holder related, maybe they could make a small lid on that bit-kit, so the bits don't poke out

[burnside]

A grappling hook.

[Reinier]

Hey I like those MySwitzerland scales

[ducttapetech]

Something else i would like to see again would be analog clocks in the scales again. A compass in the scales would be nice. not sure if it would work. More types of knife blades also. 

[comis]

I think the first order of business should be the 1/4" bit driver.  This would seem to offer the biggest bang for the buck.   

Totally, I just saw a mod done by a EDCF member, Randyc74, and quoting his picture:


(^If someone know how this is done, I love to make one for my spirit)

Also, on the same note, I sincerely hope someone brings this back! 

Leatherman universal tool adapter:



Anyway, I do agree it will be nice to have ferro rod incorporated into at least the SOS kit, if not, as an option to the side pocket loop.


+2 on Pez dispenser! 

[enki_ck]

Of course it was done here first.

JB Weld in the adapter. I'll try to find thr thread.

[enki_ck]

Of course it was done here first.

JB Weld in the adapter. I'll try to find thr thread.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,20136.msg379857.html#msg379857

[comis]

Of course it was done here first.

JB Weld in the adapter. I'll try to find thr thread.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,20136.msg379857.html#msg379857

Ahhh!  Thank you, Nikola.  Never disappoint! 

I think my 91mm should be set, I just have to think how the Spirit phillips will work with this method since it has a large head but slimmer body. 

[dmanuel]

Ferro rod
This is rather a consumable and would IMO make more sense to be incorporated into the sheath.

I was thinking along the lines of the Exotac system since it is both sealed and replaceable.

[Etherealicer]

Ferro rod
This is rather a consumable and would IMO make more sense to be incorporated into the sheath.

I was thinking along the lines of the Exotac system since it is both sealed and replaceable.

First let me clarify: I Me Personally wouldn't want a Ferro Rod in a SAK, that doesn't mean you shouldn't want it . The same is of course true fore everything else I write below.*

The problem is and that is my personal opinion, the guys at Victorinox do not put that much thought into their tool combos**.

This is what you will end up
SAK 1: Wood saw, blade, small blade, can opener, cap lifter, ferro rod
But you also wanted a metal file/saw and Scissors
SAK 2: Metal saw, blade, small blade, cap lifter, bottle opener, scissors (Mountaineer)
Wait you still don't have a gutting blade, so lets get one of the 111mm hunter series...
OK, of course this is ridiculous, but you get my point. This is why I prefer to have such highly specific implements separate so they can be combine them with any SAK.

* Its also a question of cell phone reception. Switzerland is tiny, you have almost everywhere cell reception, so in order to survive all you need is a cell. If you really want to be prepared you don't need a tool but you bring your REGA (REttungs GEsellschaft - Rescue Society) membership card . Just in case you don't have a REGA SAK yet.
** Just to make my point: the CyberTool 41 is the only CT with metal file (something I sometimes use to deal with rough edges on computer cases or to take care of my nails, after all, we IT guys work in an office environment) it also has a wooden saw (its a long time since they used wood in anything computer related, well maybe the desk, I could saw a hole in the desk, yes that would work). You also can't have it combined with an electrician blade (that would be a logical combo for me). The only reason why the cork-screw is not a complete bust is because it also holds the eye-glass screwdriver, but then that is quite the stereotype huh, IT-guy must wear glasses (ok, I admit I wear glasses, but I have never used the eye-glass screwdriver in my life).

[splico]

Of course it was done here first.

JB Weld in the adapter. I'll try to find thr thread.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,20136.msg379857.html#msg379857

And this one "Cyber" Explorer 
http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/your-favorite-'stand-alone'-sak/msg772707/#msg772707

[Syph007]

A full sized Bit-Holder would make up a very fat layer.

Ya the more Ive thought about it the only way to have a full size 1/4" bit holder is to do it as a scale cutout like the marlin spike does.  But you're right how many bits could you store, and would it be worth it to just have one on board in the driver itself.. maybe i dunno.