I'll try and see if I can turn it，If it turns, it must be bail.
They made both variants: with and without bail(Image removed from quote.)I’m agree with Kamakiri, the rest of broken bail was accurate filed off (or just somebody didn’t like bails)Probably it was like this one(Image removed from quote.)
Handyman 7236 maU, early- mid 1960s.Remind me please when they changed large Elinox stamp for a bit smaller one
Just to illustrate what was said by Jazzbass above
Why do you think there was a bail in the first place - Didn't they make them with or without bails? Maybe this was one without
Ahhh - I've got it - Thanks ladsIf it were bail-less - It would not have had the ring/'bushing' around the rivet head
(Image removed from quote.)I think my point is better made with pictures. Without getting into all the details it is tougher to explain. But here%u2019s some that show how close the last big Elinox stamp is to the main line 29TAM production, tang polishing, VSSR stamp transition to keyrings and 29TSM transition. .
One more 84mm Super Tinker LNF , now with bail - 145kaU . It is not good condition, even LNF is broken off but I'd like to show these knives here because they are hard to find and only few were shown ( Jazzbass called 145k "one of the rarest post WW2 84mm knives" )(Image removed from quote.)
I’ve seen the large Elinox with both aluminum and nickel silver bird head spacers, and they certainly are produced into the range of asymmetrical machined (main line) knives, which I estimate production covering/through ‘65. Maybe ending then or in ‘66. I estimate my latest large Elinox copy to be c. ‘65+. It’s also a Handyman like yours.
Finally found the ‘backup’ proof for my ‘65+ estimate for the big Elinox tang stamp. And I still believe mine to be a bit later than this ‘65 inlay dated sample based on the surface finish. It’s from Ulli’s dated advertising knife thread.
Congrats! I like these dated knives
Nice picture! Can you tell us about these Elsener Rapperswil knives? Who made these two shown in Victorinox's catalog? Elsener from Schwyz, another knife maker Elsener from Rapperswil or it is collaboration knives? Thank you!
...from the category "copy a catalog page"... not perfect, but almost.
Off course Tony. Just read my first post here in this topic, please...