Vintage SAK Owners Club

xfile · **Reply #1530 on:** July 03, 2021, 01:15:49 PM

Quote from: ulli on July 03, 2021, 08:39:32 AM

Most things are already mentioned.

I would say: the mainblade is original from Victorinox, the rest not. The mainblade seems to be the only part that is inox steel. Victorinox did not produce such knives, at least I dont know of any. The knife seems to be much older that the mainblade.

It could have happened that way: mainblade got broken on the 1930s, the owner brought it to a knifemaker, who repaired the knife as good as he could and used spareparts that were available. That was very normal those days. The owner of the knife was happy, he had his loved knife back with an upgraded inox steel mainblade.

Your analysis is very reasonable.However, I feel that this main blade is not quite the same as the other 91mm main blades, especially the shape of the root. I do not seem to have a sample of the 91mm main blade from the 1930s, so I cannot make an accurate comparison.

xfile · **Reply #1531 on:** July 03, 2021, 01:41:22 PM

I found another picture of a SAK that is not in the Vic catalog. It seems that several tools are made by Vick. What kind of situation does this knife belong to?

jnoxyd · **Reply #1532 on:** July 03, 2021, 02:09:51 PM

Quote from: xfile on July 03, 2021, 01:07:10 PM

This knife is too beautiful! Is this also a blade exchange product? What is the reason for the blade swap? At that time, Vic also made knives by hand. Could it be customized according to customers' requirements?

I think these two knives are not "blade swap product". We have no Elsener catalogs from 1910s-1930s period and they can made this model that time. Of course we need more these knives to be sure.

xfile · **Reply #1533 on:** July 03, 2021, 02:29:52 PM

Quote from: jnoxyd on July 03, 2021, 02:09:51 PM

I think these two knives are not "blade swap product". We have no Elsener catalogs from 1910s-1930s period and they can made this model that time. Of course we need more these knives to be sure.
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I think so, too

ulli · **Reply #1534 on:** July 03, 2021, 04:39:40 PM

The shape of your knife is different. Victorinox produced 2 lines of s-shaped knives, the Nr 1230 serie and the Nr 1240 series, 79 mm and 84 mm. The one shown from an auction is a nr 1239 or nr 1249.

jnoxyd · **Reply #1535 on:** July 03, 2021, 04:44:43 PM

Quote from: ulli on July 03, 2021, 04:39:40 PM

The shape of your knife is different. Victorinox produced 2 lines of s-shaped knives, the Nr 1230 serie and the Nr 1240 series, 79 mm and 84 mm. The one shown from an auction is a nr 1239 or nr 1249.

Thanks for sharing pics, Ulli! Never seen them, where are they from?

xfile · **Reply #1536 on:** July 03, 2021, 05:12:39 PM

Quote from: ulli on July 03, 2021, 04:39:40 PM

The shape of your knife is different. Victorinox produced 2 lines of s-shaped knives, the Nr 1230 serie and the Nr 1240 series, 79 mm and 84 mm. The one shown from an auction is a nr 1239 or nr 1249.

Wow, what catalog is this? I've never seen such a picture about SAK. It's so sexy! I would appreciate it if you could share it with me.

BTW,the length of my knife is 88 mm

ulli · **Reply #1537 on:** July 04, 2021, 09:02:36 AM

Those pictures are from a project I m working on. Release hopefully soon.

xfile · **Reply #1538 on:** July 04, 2021, 09:38:50 AM

Quote from: ulli on July 04, 2021, 09:02:36 AM

Those pictures are from a project I m working on. Release hopefully soon.

Looking forward to it very much！

jnoxyd · **Reply #1539 on:** July 04, 2021, 04:04:43 PM

Quote from: ulli on July 04, 2021, 09:02:36 AM

Those pictures are from a project I m working on. Release hopefully soon.

Sounds great!

TonySal · **Reply #1540 on:** July 17, 2021, 09:07:58 PM

Nice ones guys!

If my 100 yr old Spartan style has a Vic emblem but I'm told it's a Pradel (French?), then they stole emblems years ago too?
I asked this awhile ago but honestly forgot your answers!

jnoxyd · **Reply #1541 on:** October 23, 2021, 09:50:25 AM

I really love the various Victorinox anniversary knives. I thought they started releasing them from the 1984 series but recently this 75mm Lady Victoria / Ambassador was sold on Ricardo. Do you think we can call it the first Victorinox Anniversary Knife or were there others? Has anyone seen this etching 75 Ann on other knives?

Reinier · **Reply #1542 on:** October 23, 2021, 03:33:01 PM

I have the same one. I like the scales, they are a different shade of gold compared to the "regular" gold alox scales from the 1960s or so.

Reinier · **Reply #1543 on:** October 23, 2021, 03:40:34 PM

Wait: sold for CHF 10?

jnoxyd · **Reply #1544 on:** October 23, 2021, 04:04:19 PM

Quote from: Reinier on October 23, 2021, 03:40:34 PM

Wait: sold for CHF 10?

Looks like that

xfile · **Reply #1545 on:** October 27, 2021, 01:55:11 AM

Quote from: jnoxyd on October 23, 2021, 09:50:25 AM

I really love the various Victorinox anniversary knives. I thought they started releasing them from the 1984 series but recently this 75mm Lady Victoria / Ambassador was sold on Ricardo. Do you think we can call it the first Victorinox Anniversary Knife or were there others? Has anyone seen this etching 75 Ann on other knives?
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It's very beautiful

Huntsman · **Reply #1546 on:** October 27, 2021, 05:19:33 AM

Quote from: jnoxyd on October 23, 2021, 09:50:25 AM

I really love the various Victorinox anniversary knives. I thought they started releasing them from the 1984 series but recently this 75mm Lady Victoria / Ambassador was sold on Ricardo. Do you think we can call it the first Victorinox Anniversary Knife or were there others? Has anyone seen this etching 75 Ann on other knives?

So would the year for that 75th anniversary be 1959 - ie 1884+75?

Nice - I like that year too

kamakiri · **Reply #1547 on:** February 17, 2022, 05:11:08 AM

Quote from: kamakiri on November 16, 2020, 05:18:11 PM

And I got a good look at the one I passed on. Pretty sure that it was produced in between 35TAP use. Between that copy and the one Minichamp described, it has to be in the middle. Perhaps in about ‘64-‘65 range, but very briefly I’m guessing.

So I finally got a Craftsman with the 25TAP saw sometime last year and can confirm the range estimate of ‘64-‘65 for their use. Mine appears to be later than the others which I’ve only seen pictures of and contains mainly parts I know to be from ‘65, and only two parts aside from the saw itself that were earlier, but I knew could possibly extend to this range. Which also wouldn’t be a stretch for 84mm knives when comparing to their 91mm counterparts.

I was also able to confirm is that these were used between 35TAP versions, which I can clearly see based off the specific saw tooling and the balance of the remainder of the part mixes on my Craftsman lineup before and after…as well as several other 84mm with fewer layers that are from ‘63 up to ‘67.

kamakiri · **Reply #1548 on:** February 17, 2022, 05:19:05 AM

Also got one of the other 136ka Craftsman that was missing from my lineup…with the Swiss Made stamped cap lifter.

Echotech · **Reply #1549 on:** February 17, 2022, 06:03:12 AM

Congrats on your find Kamakiri

Great feeling of satisfaction when you can tick one off the list

FolderBeholder · **Reply #1550 on:** February 17, 2022, 04:37:09 PM

Nice set kamakiri! It's always fun to see this thread get a bump and to wonder who got what.

pa_strunk · **Reply #1551 on:** February 17, 2022, 05:53:51 PM

Sweet collection

Rizio Il Ghiro · **Reply #1552 on:** February 17, 2022, 06:42:22 PM

Very indeed!

kamakiri · **Reply #1553 on:** February 17, 2022, 10:43:03 PM

Thanks everybody!

I do have to get an updated lineup pic of the whole 136ka Craftsman collection…and maybe one extending to the last pliers version for the Craftsman love thread.

TonySal · **Reply #1554 on:** February 17, 2022, 11:13:57 PM

Quote from: kamakiri on February 17, 2022, 10:43:03 PM

Thanks everybody!

I do have to get an updated lineup pic of the whole 136ka Craftsman collection…and maybe one extending to the last pliers version for the Craftsman love thread.