Can anyone identify this MT or verify its antique authenticity?

[dork]

Found this on an auction site. Any thoughts?






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[microbe]

It's got quite some rust. Possibly an early Leatherman?

[Kampfer]

It's got quite some rust. Possibly an early Leatherman?

Very funny.

[PTRSAK]

 

[sawman]

Time for a little cocacola treatment   

[Chako]

That is a new one for me. 

[Huntsman]

Very interesting and extensive toolset.
They look a wee bit flimsy.
No idea on provenance, sorry (I am no mt expert!!)
Although a nice historical piece I'd say - It does look old.

Presumably the older a tool the more authentic/better quality.
What I mean is Chinese imitations presumambly only started in the last 30-40 years or so??
So older stuff eg pocket knives whilst they may not be Vic or W will be made in Europe and OK --> reasonable quality??

[Lynn LeFey]

Okay, I can't say for certain, because I'm not an expert, but this thing looks SERIOUSLY old.

Here's a knife from c1870, and there seems to be some design similarities.


I'm still looking for anything with a corkscrew like the on on this knife. Wow. Funky.

EDIT: a post on bladeforums has a pic of a tool with a similar style corkscrew.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1119864-The-Peter-Harvey-Traditional-Knife-Collection

[Lynn LeFey]

And here's a link to a gallery of pictures for a knife made in 1869 with a similar cork screw.

http://www.hallowellco.com/ott___ivory_handled_combination_.htm


I am also rather tempted to say, since your knife has fork and spoon, that it's possible that it doesn't also have a can opener because it hadn't yet been invented, which would only push its age back to pre-1855 or thereabouts. That's a complete guess on my part.

[ironraven]

Cans weren't common until the 20th century. The scissors make me think Victorian era, but past that, I"m just blind guessing.

[dork]

Great banter! And great ideas! Thanks! You know, that coca-cola bath was the first thing to cross my mind as well. Ha! What an oddly fascinating thread that was. Anyway, this tool is currently running for ten bucks. I would personally feel some victory in having found and acquired such a relic at such a price, but beyond that I'm not really into holding on to useless antiques. Any advice?


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[greenbear]

And here's a link to a gallery of pictures for a knife made in 1869 with a similar cork screw.

http://www.hallowellco.com/ott___ivory_handled_combination_.htm


I am also rather tempted to say, since your knife has fork and spoon, that it's possible that it doesn't also have a can opener because it hadn't yet been invented, which would only push its age back to pre-1855 or thereabouts. That's a complete guess on my part.

On a digressional point Schlumberger who made the knife in this link are still in business today, they makes locks and keys amongst other things 

[microbe]

Buy it man, great piece of history and excellent conversation maker. 

[enki_ck]

Great banter! And great ideas! Thanks! You know, that coca-cola bath was the first thing to cross my mind as well. Ha! What an oddly fascinating thread that was. Anyway, this tool is currently running for ten bucks. I would personally feel some victory in having found and acquired such a relic at such a price, but beyond that I'm not really into holding on to useless antiques. Any advice?


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I'd say get it, at that price especially, it would be a cool conversation piece at least.

I've seen similar ones but none quite like it I think. probably early 1900's

Here's another oldie that this one reminded me of.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,22975.0.html

[Styerman]

Just based on pictures I've seen in old publications - between the 1850's and about 1900 . Any markings at all ?

It could have come from any one of several countries . What are the handle scales ? On the off chance that the bolsters were silver , and hallmarked , that would help a lot .

Chris