firearms

[HarleyXJGuy]

Oh, no. The pistol I USE, the only 9mm I own, is a Ruger LC9. Got it for CCW. I rented all the Glocks and M&Ps. $1 rentals on Wednesdays at the range where I have membership.

Not sure I'll keep the Ruger. I got a good price on it, but Not sure it's thrilling me.

Right. Love me some Rugers, all mine are .22 though.

The SR 9 while a good pistol doesn't do it for me either.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Actually I'd prefer to carry the HK. Light weight, excellent grips that point right for me, smooth da pull, and extremely accurate. If you haven't shoot one, give it a try.

P226 or P229?

[Lynn LeFey]

About Rugers:

We have an SR22, and LOVE it. It is a total blast to shoot.

The problem with the LC9 is that it has a REALLY LONG DA only trigger. It's smooth, but man... long.

Other than that, it's a nice small pistol. I got Pachmayr grip/wrap that help tame the sharp recoil. It's so light that it's really not fun after about the third magazine. The grip helps some.

Also considering a laser for it, for close range fire (particularly at night, when acquiring its anemic sites would be less than fun).

[HarleyXJGuy]

About Rugers:

We have an SR22, and LOVE it. It is a total blast to shoot.

The problem with the LC9 is that it has a REALLY LONG DA only trigger. It's smooth, but man... long.

Other than that, it's a nice small pistol. I got Pachmayr grip/wrap that help tame the sharp recoil. It's so light that it's really not fun after about the third magazine. The grip helps some.

Also considering a laser for it, for close range fire (particularly at night, when acquiring its anemic sites would be less than fun).

Mark II pistol and 10/22 rifle here. Love them.

Yikes, LC-9 is no fun to shoot for sure. Thought we was talking about the SR-9.

[ColoSwiss]

Actually I'd prefer to carry the HK. Light weight, excellent grips that point right for me, smooth da pull, and extremely accurate. If you haven't shoot one, give it a try.

P226 or P229?

Those are Sigs; owned the first and shot the second, but at the end of the day they never felt right in the hand.

I currently shoot an HK USP (same as the German Army). Owned a USP Compact, but didn't care for the sharp muzzle flip. Also not as accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_USP

[jerseydevil]

JD - there's a long and continuing debate regarding the M-1 carbine and M-1 Garand, with both having their partisans and detractors. For me it would depend on the tactical situation.

If you haven't read it, check out " US Infantry Weapons in Combat", by Mark Goodwin.

http://www.amazon.com/Infantry-Weapons-Combat-Personal-Experiences/dp/1888722150/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417923764&sr=8-1&keywords=us+infantry+weapons+in+combat

Thanks for the link, I actually haven't read that one yet!  I'll be using an Amazon card from Christmas for it.    As to the M1 vs. um, well, M1  , I agree that they both have their pluses and minuses.  In the end they were designed for different purposes, and the lines got muddled sometimes.  There were carbine versions of the Garand BTW, though they were never officially issued.  About 150 or so were put together and used in the Philippines, but they were field modifications, not an arsenal product.  There is one surviving prototype at the Springfield Armory Museum.  You do see shortened Garands at times, the so-called "Tanker" models, but these were all post-war civilian rebuilds.  I'd think that an 18" barreled Garand would recoil almost as bad as a No. 5 Jungle Carbine!  The muzzle flash would dazzle you a bit as well.  My dad's No.5 kicks like a mule, despite the issue rubber buttpad.  The flash hider is not all that useful either.  That No. 5 is an original BTW, not a modern reproduction.  Very cool rifle.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Actually I'd prefer to carry the HK. Light weight, excellent grips that point right for me, smooth da pull, and extremely accurate. If you haven't shoot one, give it a try.

P226 or P229?

Those are Sigs; owned the first and shot the second, but at the end of the day they never felt right in the hand.

I currently shoot an HK USP (same as the German Army). Owned a USP Compact, but didn't care for the sharp muzzle flip. Also not as accurate.

Sigh it is early here.

Not a fan of the HK USP but it is a good weapon that does not feel right to me.

[jerseydevil]

To get into the pistol comments, there is one handgun that feels like it was built specifically for me, and that I could close my eyes, point at the target like pointing my finger, and hit the target.  That handgun is the Colt 1851 Navy. 

[Lynn LeFey]

I've got a friend that has the p226. Wow, that thing is jumpy. NOT a fan. Well made, but way too much muzzle flip.

[Lynn LeFey]

To get into the pistol comments, there is one handgun that feels like it was built specifically for me, and that I could close my eyes, point at the target like pointing my finger, and hit the target.  That handgun is the Colt 1851 Navy. 

You were born 150 years too late, and missed your calling.

[HarleyXJGuy]

To get into the pistol comments, there is one handgun that feels like it was built specifically for me, and that I could close my eyes, point at the target like pointing my finger, and hit the target.  That handgun is the Colt 1851 Navy. 

What does one say to something like this?

[ColoSwiss]

To get into the pistol comments, there is one handgun that feels like it was built specifically for me, and that I could close my eyes, point at the target like pointing my finger, and hit the target.  That handgun is the Colt 1851 Navy. 

You and Wild Bill Hickok! 

[Lynn LeFey]

To get into the pistol comments, there is one handgun that feels like it was built specifically for me, and that I could close my eyes, point at the target like pointing my finger, and hit the target.  That handgun is the Colt 1851 Navy. 

What does one say to something like this?

"The Colt 1851 was obviously better than a Glock"?
 

[HarleyXJGuy]

I've got a friend that has the p226. Wow, that thing is jumpy. NOT a fan. Well made, but way too much muzzle flip.

It is more of a pistol for someone who has more experience with shooting I think. A lot of its weight is in the grip area.

[HarleyXJGuy]

To get into the pistol comments, there is one handgun that feels like it was built specifically for me, and that I could close my eyes, point at the target like pointing my finger, and hit the target.  That handgun is the Colt 1851 Navy. 

What does one say to something like this?

"The Colt 1851 was obviously better than a Glock"?
 

In 1851 it was. 

[Lynn LeFey]

That is completely true. 

[ColoSwiss]

A change of pace - worst and/or weirdest pistols you've owned/shot.

Worst is easy - someone brought a cheap (actually they all were) RG revolver into the range. 20 pound trigger pull. No one could hit the target at 50 feet, so we kept shortening the range. Finally managed to get a couple of keyholed bullet holes on the paper at around 10 feet. Apparently the rifling was for show, as it wasn't affecting the bullet.

Weirdest? Possibly a MAB PA-15. A large 15 shot 9mm that the French Army was thinking of adopting back in the 1960s. The gun was solidly made, and felt good in the hand. However it was a delayed blowback with a rotating barrel, and a very odd twisting recoil that was extremely unpleasant to shoot. Owned one briefly (very briefly) back in the 1970s. 'Hell is where they have British cooks, French engineers, German policemen...'

[Lynn LeFey]

Worst: I got a .25acp, like a jimenez kind of hunk of potmetal from a friend as payment for something, like helping them move or something. I couldn't get the mag to feed properly, and traded it to my brother for something ELSE. I THINK that was the trade where I got a camouflage Mini maglight. And maybe a Buck knife or something like that.

Weirdest for me :Blackpowder musket. I only shot it once. Click... wait, wait... BOOM! Then you wait 20 seconds for the big cloud of smoke to waft away. Weird.

[captain spaulding]

Worst: Highpoint .380. It had potential to actually be a good firearm, but the replacement recoil spring they sent is for the 9mm which they said was the norm for the replacement and it would short cycle and jam like crazy.

Weirdest: Probably the flaregun with .22 insert. You used to be able to buy both the flaregun and insert and have them shipped to your house. No background check or anything. Probably still can.

[ColoSwiss]

Worst: Highpoint .380. It had potential to actually be a good firearm, but the replacement recoil spring they sent is for the 9mm which they said was the norm for the replacement and it would short cycle and jam like crazy.

Weirdest: Probably the flaregun with .22 insert. You used to be able to buy both the flaregun and insert and have them shipped to your house. No background check or anything. Probably still can.

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Why worry about the insert. Hit someone with a flare and they're toast (in more ways than one  )

[HarleyXJGuy]

Worst: M249 SAW from back in the late 80's. Jam prone does not begin to describe this POS. It just could not take the beating of being jumped out of aircraft with the 82nd Airborne Divison. I was later sent to Korea for a year with the 2nd ID and the SAW's there we're fine, not great but ok.

Weird: Gold plated Uzi SMG. Found a whole room full gold plated weapons during Desert Storm. AK-47, Uzi, FN-Fal and a lot of pistols. Carried the Uzin in my ruck and shot it a lot until some officer caught me. That did not end very well.

[ColoSwiss]

Worst: M249 SAW from back in the late 80's. Jam prone does not begin to describe this POS. It just could not take the beating of being jumped out of aircraft with the 82nd Airborne Divison. I was later sent to Korea for a year with the 2nd ID and the SAW's there we're fine, not great but ok.

Weird: Gold plated Uzi SMG. Found a whole room full gold plated weapons during Desert Storm. AK-47, Uzi, FN-Fal and a lot of pistols. Carried the Uzin in my ruck and shot it a lot until some officer caught me. That did not end very well.

How are the SAWs now in Afghanistan? Heard some SEALs were burning out M4s when trying to use them as LMGs. Wondered why they weren't carrying SAWs.

Remember the Stoner Weapons System back in the 'Nam era? Saw some photos of SEALs with Stoners set up with the LMG feed belt and the SMG short barrel and folding stock.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Worst: M249 SAW from back in the late 80's. Jam prone does not begin to describe this POS. It just could not take the beating of being jumped out of aircraft with the 82nd Airborne Divison. I was later sent to Korea for a year with the 2nd ID and the SAW's there we're fine, not great but ok.

Weird: Gold plated Uzi SMG. Found a whole room full gold plated weapons during Desert Storm. AK-47, Uzi, FN-Fal and a lot of pistols. Carried the Uzin in my ruck and shot it a lot until some officer caught me. That did not end very well.

How are the SAWs now in Afghanistan? Heard some SEALs were burning out M4s when trying to use them as LMGs. Wondered why they weren't carrying SAWs.

Remember the Stoner Weapons System back in the 'Nam era? Saw some photos of SEALs with Stoners set up with the LMG feed belt and the SMG short barrel and folding stock.

Can't say for sure why they do not carry the SAW as much but am willing to bet I know why. Try climbing a mountain with 100 pounds of armor ammo radio and rations on you. Now try it with 120 pounds of stuff. Just a weight issue I think.

The SAW that is issued now is a beast, no issues at all. Changed in almost every way then the one from years ago.

The SF types have the MK 48 and I have seen a few of them around. It is a 7.62 SAW in effect.

[ColoSwiss]

Hadn't heard about the MK 48. Sounds like its closer to the M249 than to the M240.

(wish they would bring out an updated 'Small Arms of the World')

[HarleyXJGuy]

Hadn't heard about the MK 48. Sounds like its closer to the M249 than to the M240.

(wish they would bring out an updated 'Small Arms of the World')

It is like a M249 twin, just bigger.

Thing is it only about three pounds less then the most excellent 240L so I see more of them around.

[Mr. Whippy]

I was just cleaning a couple of my dad's guns,

A Winchester model 62 (22 rifle, pump action):


And a Ruger Mark I with right hand grip:

[Lynn LeFey]

Something just seems really strange about a pump .22

A friend of mine said he just got a Yellow Boy lever action rifle in .357 that I'm dying to try out. I LOVE the look of those  guns.

[Chako]

I stumbled upon a Steam game called World of Guns Dis-assembly.

So far, I have learned how to field strip and assemble an AK 47 in just under 6 minutes. My time keeps improving the more I do it. I haven't played with the Colt 1911 much.

The game is free to play, but you have to earn points to open up new weapons...or you can just buy them outright. So far, I have earned enough for the Colt and the HK MP5.

Great game to teach folks how to take apart and assemble firearms. Not only that, you can see how they operate with various x ray modes, and slow motion.

Worth a look. 

[Chako]

The local Canadian Tire has a .22 LR Henry lever action rifle. That rifle is just worthy to look at.

[Lynn LeFey]

I passed on a message to my local gun-shooting friends about that ap. Looks interesting, but it's not really my thing.

I LOVE the look of the old lever action guns.