firearms

[Gareth]

Very cool mate.   A little different from your normal BSA eh?

[kirk13]

Very cool mate.   A little different from your normal BSA eh?

Just a bit

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I'm rather pleased...I got to pop off five rounds with a No7 Lee Enfield

I'm not jealous, honest

I shot one years ago and there a lovely rifle, and if I remember rightly (was at least 15 years ago) hardly any recoil due to the weight

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TBH Mike,I hadn't thought much about the recoil,but yes,your not wrong. I was more aware if the much older ergonomics,and much heavier action. I've fired bolt actions before,but they've either been little Toz from Russia or full on precision rifles like Anschultz .

I did tell the owner he'd for-filled one of my small life ambitions. The kid who grew up reading Warlord and Commando finally shot a Lee Enfield!

This thread got me looking at air rifles and pistols again

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[JBW1]

Some of those air pistols are pretty cool! I didn't know till recently they make em with a slide that kicks back when you fire

[JBW1]

And heck of a lot cheaper to plink than .22 now days

[ducttapetech]

No kidding! Black powder firearms is still pretty cheap to shoot. So far.

Nate

[jerseydevil]

No kidding! Black powder firearms is still pretty cheap to shoot. So far.

Nate

Well, that depends I suppose.  My Martini-Henry and Gewehr 71/84 aren't exactly cheap to feed........

[ducttapetech]

Yeah, but I reload and cast my bullets.

Nate

[JBW1]

Yeah, but I reload and cast my bullets.

Nate

DUDE!

[jerseydevil]

Yeah, but I reload and cast my bullets.

Nate

There you go.    I don't cast my own bullets, but do handload several calibers.  The .43 Mauser is pretty easy, and I have a good amount of brass for it from my father.  The .577-450 is a bit more difficult.  The brass we have was converted from .577 Nitro Express cases.  The loading dies for it are so large that Dad had to have a press drilled out to handle them!    I've fired commercial .577-450 from Old Western Scrounger, who manufacture a number of odd and obsolete calibers.  Have a 33 Winchester you want to shoot?  They're your guys.  Expensive stuff though, the Martini fodder ran about $50 for a box of ten, and it turned out they were Berdan primed and we couldn't reload them.    Another option for the Martini-Henry we had which works very well is an adapter that allows .45 Long Colt to be fired from the rifle.  Fun times, and whenever I've had that rifle to my shoulder, I have this going through my head...... 

[ducttapetech]

Great movie. Most of the rounds I cast is for the blackpowder guns. Need copper jackets for the big boys like my M-1 and Enfields.
 

Nate

[ColoSwiss]

Biggest and nastiest thing I've ever fired… 90mm "reckless" rifle. Thought I'd died and gone to the bad place.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I bet there quite shocking to fire!

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[pfrsantos]

my wife has a NA Arms too, but I put a pocket clip handle on it, she likes it, and its pretty fun to shoot

With thumb studs and AO, that would be great!

 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Anyone else have a fascination with SMG/PDW? Of all the firearm types out there, there the ones I find most interesting

Not that I've ever shot one, or would have the slightest opportunity too

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[jerseydevil]

Anyone else have a fascination with SMG/PDW? Of all the firearm types out there, there the ones I find most interesting

Not that I've ever shot one, or would have the slightest opportunity too

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Submachine guns are neat.  I've fired an authentic M1928A1 Thompson and an M3A1.  Fun stuff!  The Thompson was very controllable on full-auto.  All that weight and the Blish Lock keeping the rate of fire down really helped.  The Grease Gun not so much, compared to the Thompson it felt flimsy as all hell.

[ColoSwiss]

I've fired an M-1 Thompson and a couple of MAC 10s in 9mm and .45. I'll take an M-4 carbine (cut-down M-16) any day. Handles much better, far more accurate.

If you ever get over here to the US, a lot of shooting ranges rent a variety of pistols and semi-auto rifles. Stopped by one out in Honolulu a few years back that specifically catered to overseas visitors from places like Japan where most shooting is banned.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I would be tempted all right!

I just find that there so diverse in there designs, from out and out crude to very sophisticated and everything in between

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[Gareth]

I would be tempted all right!

I just find that there so diverse in there designs, from out and out crude to very sophisticated and everything in between

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You mean like one of these?



Which got replaced with one of these



I have handled a (deactivated) Sten, and it was indeed crude as hell.  By all account the Sterling is a much more refined design.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Yeah the old plumbers nightmare My grandad hated them (swore by his Bren though) and had a list as long as your arm of complaints about them

I've field striped a Stifling and that was a very well made firearm, but then it was in service for hundreds of years so it had to of been

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[Gareth]

Yeah, it did get a bit of an update later in it's life.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Shame they made it a hell of a lot less accurate

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[ColoSwiss]

And now for something completely different - the Charlton Light Machine Gun. Back in the early days of WWII when Brens were in short supply the Kiwis came up with a way of converting a SMLE into a light machine gun. Some were made in New Zealand and others were apparently made by a vacuum cleaner company in Australia; and they were issued to New Zealand home defense units.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Automatic_Rifle

[jerseydevil]

   The Charlton!  Quite the oddball.  The scary thing is that it worked.  The Canadians had a similar concept being worked on during World War I, the Huot.  Instead of the SMLE, the Huot used the Ross rifle as its base.  The Ross was an interesting but dangerous rifle.  It was a straight pull, like the Swiss Schmidt-Rubin and the Austrian Mannlicher.  The later Ross' had several severe flaws that showed up in the trenches.  First of all it was not tolerant of mud, which was unavoidable in Flanders.  Secondly, when the action was cycled, the interrupted-screw type locking lugs would bang against the ejector, deforming them and causing the rifle to jam eventually.  German troops reported overrunning Canadian trenches while Canadian troops bashed their bolt handles with whatever was handy, trying to get their rifles to function.  And lastly and most dangerous, the Ross could be stripped for cleaning and reassembled in a manner that would not let the bolt lock, but would still chamber and fire a round.  The bolt would come flying back and kill or severely injure the shooter.  About 10 years ago in NJ, someone was killed in just that manner firing a Ross.    It was replaced by the SMLE by 1916, but saw service after that as a sniper rifle.  For its faults, if taken care of the Ross was an extremely accurate rifle.  I've handled but never fired a Ross.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Not to mention beautiful, I've seen some sporting Ross's and they are gorgeous! I'd still stick with SMLE though!

Some of those rifle/lmg hybrids look damn scary to me! They must have been almost impossible to control with the light weight, and full power cartridge :/

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[Gareth]

If we're getting into the weird and wacky then I do think this Rocket Pistol needs a mention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98c2t_uK5Uo&list=UUrfKGpvbEQXcbe68dzXgJuA&index=19

This is the perfect pistol for you if you have Dan Dare fantasies I'd say.

[ducttapetech]

I always thought those where cool.

Nate

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Yeah they were cool, wouldn't want to fire one though!

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[ducttapetech]

I would try it once. Hell, I shoot anything atleast once.
But, I stupid like that a times. ;D
Nate

[kirk13]

If we're getting into the weird and wacky then I do think this Rocket Pistol needs a mention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98c2t_uK5Uo&list=UUrfKGpvbEQXcbe68dzXgJuA&index=19

This is the perfect pistol for you if you have Dan Dare fantasies I'd say.

They were used in one of the Bond movies I think