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jp Offline proletenstahl

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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #810 on: November 29, 2022, 07:56:10 AM
Do we need a photo of an old cross Solo Alox? I have one that's not beaten up. Or is it better not to clutter the page?


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #811 on: November 30, 2022, 01:23:31 AM
Red or sliver ?  Not that it matters to the Wiki page ;)

Sure - You could replace the stock photo at the top of the page

Or maybe move the bottom photo up a bit and pop it under there

We do like to keep images away from the heavy text areas - ie usually the History and Variations - as is the case here - and put images into white space.

Or you could just put it in as a link on the page somewhere .......  So many options  :)

This is the command to do that
[tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=1234|image name]

Thanks for your help


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #812 on: December 16, 2022, 07:36:51 AM
Little piece of Wiki work on the SwissChamp SOS kits - FYI - And comments
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,81813.msg2385995.html#msg2385995


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #813 on: December 19, 2022, 12:21:30 PM
Some intels for the wiki:

- It seems that some version of the cybertool bit driver have a hole, visible on some XLT version (old version with grey magnifier?)

pics here: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,90188.msg2383271.html#msg2383271

- The sentinal appeared as a belgian army version with the 0.8413.3M3BE ref

pics here: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,90275.msg2386765.html#msg2386765


great work !


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #814 on: December 23, 2022, 06:11:34 PM
My 1950s/60s fisherman. From what I've read here it seems it's from somewhere between 1954 and 1961. I believe it's model 135faU.
It's been in the family from new, my father bought it for my much older brother when he was young and then he gave it back to my father who ended giving it to me.

The following helped me date it:

  • Philips screwdriver (Backspring), square, file, no can-key - (1952-?)
  • Fish Scaler with magnetic tip, no ruler - (1952-1975?)
  • Simple reamer - pre-1961
  • Shackle - (1902-1968)
  • no exposed rivets (apart from shackle), at least after 1954 as one of the catalogs from 1954 still shows exposed rivets.

 I've seen the year when exposed rivets went away somewhere but can't find it anymore. Does anyone know? That would help narrow it down further.

I doesn't have the fish inlay, as seen in some 50s catalogs it seems the early models didn't have it.

One thing that doesn't add up from this page http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php is the can opener, mine doesn't have the PAT logo which would according to the page make it a post 1980 model. I know this knife is in its original state and has never had anything repaired or replaced apart from the tweezers. It's also currently missing the single scissor spring and the shackle is all bent out of shape and disconnected from one of the rivets.

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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #815 on: December 24, 2022, 09:13:41 AM
Glad to see you here. And to see the actual SAK in question. :tu:

Hopefully some of our more experienced SAK historians can narrow down the production year.


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #816 on: December 24, 2022, 10:04:40 AM
Glad to see you here. And to see the actual SAK in question. :tu:

Hopefully some of our more experienced SAK historians can narrow down the production year.

Thank you for your warm welcome and for replying to me email with the registration code. Much appreciated!


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #817 on: December 24, 2022, 03:43:13 PM
Welcome - Lovely old SAK and great family history :2tu:

We have the rivets going internal in '57 here:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,51872.0.html


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #818 on: December 24, 2022, 03:56:03 PM
Welcome - Lovely old SAK and great family history :2tu:

We have the rivets going internal in '57 here:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,51872.0.html

Thank you, found it in the meanwhile and just posted there. That narrows it down to 57-61 (ish).


00 Offline NeleDo

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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #819 on: January 25, 2023, 05:57:02 PM
As promised... I didn't include some info/descriptions of already known things...

Survival-Kits / SOS-Sets info:

Kit A 1985 - 2000 (from 1991 named Small SOS Kit/Set):
-   1.8810 (US 5600 & 53511)
Single black leather pouch 4.0567(.03) and SwissChamp red 1.6795
-   1.8810.3 (US 5602 & 53513)
Single black leather pouch 4.0567(.03) and SwissChamp black 1.6795.3
-   1.8810.4 (or 1.8810.04) 1985 - 1996
Single olive nylon pouch 4.0567.04 and SwissChamp red 1.6795

Kit B until circa 1991 (Deluxe SOS Kit)
-   1.8812 (US 5603)
Single slightly larger black leather pouch 4.0558.03 and SwissChamp red 1.6795
-   1.8812.4 (or 1.8812.04)
Single slightly larger olive nylon pouch 4.0558.04 and SwissChamp red 1.6795

Kit C from circa 1991 (Large/Big /Deluxe Survival Kit)
-   1.8812 (US 53521)
Double black leather pouch 4.0568.03 and SwissChamp red 1.6795
-   1.8812.3
Double black leather pouch 4.0568.03 and SwissChamp black 1.6795.3
-   1.8812.04 1991 - 1996
Double olive nylon pouch 4.0568.04 and SwissChamp red 1.6795

Kit D (or C plus) 1991 - 2003 (Large/Big /Deluxe SOS Kit with watch)
-   1.8816
Double black leather pouch 4.0568.03 and SwissChamp SuperTimer red 1.6796
-   1.8816.3
Double black leather pouch 4.0568.03 and SwissChamp SuperTimer black 1.6796.3
-   1.8816.04
Double olive nylon pouch 4.0568.04 and SwissChamp SuperTimer red 1.6796


Most of the info is from “SAMMLER- UND SONDEREDITIONEN“ by Victorinox and available Victorinox catalogs.

I found different product numbers for US market (4 digit are older) but I'm not sure when the change occured (I guess around 1991). Different names (Big/Large/Deluxe) were used in different markets for Kit C (German: Grosses)

They had three main "combinations" of SwissChamps and pouches: red SC in black leather pouch, black SC in black leather pouch and red SC in olive nylon pouch, but some other may have existed in different markets. Also, some Kits (pouch and accessories) were sold separately from the SwissChamp so a customer could put any SAK other than a SC or a SC in different colour.

Earlier leather pouches had loops on side pockets instead of Velcro and didn’t have “.03” extension on pouch number at the back. Number marking olive nylon pouch was changed from “.4” to “.04” probably to avoid confusion from “.X” being used for SC scale colour.

I hope you'll find this useful!  :cheers:


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #820 on: January 25, 2023, 10:11:47 PM
Thank you!  I love these kits and would like to find one.
Barry


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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #821 on: January 26, 2023, 04:21:31 AM
As promised... I didn't include some info/descriptions of already known things...
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I hope you'll find this useful!  :cheers:

We most certainly do     :tu:     8)
Great stuff Nele and thanks for all your research    :salute:

I have moved the SOS info from the SC page to the SOS page and added your info as a section below.
The SOS page was already marked as under development - So that comment can stay

The page is WIP and we can consolidate the sections - and add pictures etc - as and when
But at least we don't have an empty page anymore - and all the info we know is in the one place

Brilliant     :D    :D    :D
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00 Offline NeleDo

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Re: Been doing some work in the Wiki
Reply #822 on: January 26, 2023, 10:00:13 AM
We most certainly do     :tu:     8)
Great stuff Nele and thanks for all your research    :salute:

I have moved the SOS info from the SC page to the SOS page and added your info as a section below.
The SOS page was already marked as under development - So that comment can stay

The page is WIP and we can consolidate the sections - and add pictures etc - as and when
But at least we don't have an empty page anymore - and all the info we know is in the one place

Brilliant     :D    :D    :D

Thanks! It's always a pleasure to contribute to our beloved SAKWiki  :salute: Looking forward to seeing the SOS page "completed"  :tu:


 

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