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ua Offline LeaF

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Victorinox 91mm Model Relationship Diagram
on: November 28, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
Hi all,

I would like to share with you some diagram, which I've called a "Evolution of 91-mm SAK's".
Short introduction: I collect SAKs almost three years, and I remember as at beginning it was very hard to keep in mind all differencies between similar models of SAKs, - for instance, - what a difference between Hiker and Camper?

In order to help myself and (probably) some other collectors, I've created this "family tree" :)

This diagram displays all well-known 91-mm models (except some rare\unusual ones) and relations between them.
There are two "start-points" - Spartan and Compact, the rest represents as combinations of these 2 models and additional tools.
I've tried to make this diagram clear and simple, so there are no so much relations between knives, - only minimalistic ones.

Anyway, I think will be better to review this diagram than trying understand me  :D
Maybe, this diagram will be usefull for people, who likes SAKs. If you have any comments or suggestions - please let me know!
Thanks for your attention!

P.S. Original (uncompressed) image in bigger resolution is available in my blog (I'm not sure that can attach here a big file).

Link to original (and current/updated) source file
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« Last Edit: September 12, 2019, 10:35:56 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #1 on: November 28, 2014, 07:51:10 PM
Thank you!!
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #2 on: November 28, 2014, 07:53:10 PM
Ive thought about doing something like that before too.  Something like that with pics of each SAK would make an awesome wall poster.  It would help my wife understand why I need so many too though!
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #3 on: November 28, 2014, 08:13:38 PM
Very cool, looks great! 
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #4 on: November 28, 2014, 10:31:14 PM
Excellent.  :tu:

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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #5 on: November 29, 2014, 01:31:07 AM

Quote from: Syph007 on November 28, 2014, 07:53:10 PM
Ive thought about doing something like that before too.  Something like that with pics of each SAK would make an awesome wall poster.  It would help my wife understand why I need so many too though!
Syph, you should do one for Alox, and include your versions. With pictures.


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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #6 on: November 29, 2014, 03:17:21 AM
Great piece of work!  :salute:

Ditto on doing  a version with photos.  :tu:

Double ditto on Syph doing a version for alox.  :tu:
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #7 on: November 29, 2014, 07:27:57 AM
That is awesome! Thanks :tu:
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #8 on: November 29, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
Thanks for the diagram, great work!

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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #9 on: November 29, 2014, 05:40:37 PM
great job!!

ua Offline LeaF

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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #10 on: December 01, 2014, 10:01:50 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on November 28, 2014, 07:53:10 PM
..  It would help my wife understand why I need so many too though!


Exactly! The same thoughts..  :cheers:


P.S. Initially I've decided to use SAK's photos in this diagram, but in the middle of process I understood that result will be just a giant and very complicated, so I decline this idea.
Also I thought that it will be good to combine both series: 91-mm and 84-mm in one picture ('cause there are a lot of same models, which have only one difference - size), but again - seems such diagram will be too difficult for understanding. Probably later I'll create separate one, dedicated for 84-mm models only.. (If nobody will create it earlier :)
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 02:23:31 AM
Just found this in my bookmarks.

And discovered I never replied at the time - So giving this a bump now to say thanks to LeaF for this great and fascinating piece of work. I hope you are still around. And also promoting it to everyone else.

The blog link above does not work - But the blog is still there - So you can go to the home page from the error - and still get the higher density picture.

One wee comment - I would call this more of a 91mm Model Relationships diagram as opposed to Evolution - Minor point!!

Enjoy  :tu:  :D
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #12 on: September 12, 2018, 02:14:38 PM
Updated link: https://leaf-vics.com/saks-relationships


Moderators, could you please update first post with new link as well?
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #13 on: September 12, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
First post updated.

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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #14 on: September 12, 2018, 02:35:46 PM
Hi Leafy

Would you like the thread renamed?
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #15 on: April 28, 2019, 09:57:10 PM
Thanks for the picture and PDF! Very handy
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #16 on: April 29, 2019, 04:10:15 AM
Yeah - It's great :tu:

Link to LeaF's blog added to first post

LeaF - Would you like the thread to be renamed to be something like "Victorinox 91mm SAK relationships" ? - To match the blog page and the 84mm diagram?
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Re: 91-mm SAK's evolution
Reply #17 on: September 12, 2019, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on April 29, 2019, 04:10:15 AM
LeaF - Would you like the thread to be renamed to be something like "Victorinox 91mm SAK relationships" ? - To match the blog page and the 84mm diagram?


Yes, please
(just saw your question, so sorry for the small delay with response..  :facepalm: :D )
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Re: Victorinox 91mm SAK Relationship Diagram
Reply #18 on: September 12, 2019, 10:33:33 AM
NP - Done - Hope that is OK - Let me know if not!

Title also updated in SAK ID thread to match :tu:
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Re: Victorinox 91mm Model Relationship Diagram
Reply #19 on: July 26, 2021, 11:44:56 AM
Hi, Team!


I just updated 91-mm model relationship diagram.


Moderators, could you please update a first post please?


What actually were changed:
1. Fixed relation between Climber Deluxe and CyberTool 34 (thanks, David!)
2. Added FASS 90 model
3. Added whole SwissChamp X. line-up
4. Re-arranged items of diagram


Link to the updated diagram: https://leaf-vics.com/usefull-materials/saks-relationships




P.S. I cannot add image in original resolution to the post unfortunately
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