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Military Issue tool (where and what?)
on: July 16, 2008, 03:45:54 AM
Don't know if there is a post like this or not, :oops: but recently the question of where certain military issue tools are from has came up.  Some of you miltary personnel or ex personnel could fill in some blanks on the issue of certain tools
Like what is given and what country of origin it is given? Thanks to anyone who can comment on this
« Last Edit: July 16, 2008, 03:49:30 AM by Poncho65 »


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what
Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 03:46:56 AM
I'll start, Philippine army no issue  :D
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 03:51:52 AM
We could make a list of these similar to the acronyms thread thanx :D


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 03:56:32 AM
Ok, after much extensive research I have found that there is no standard issue for Andorra, Costa Rica, Dominica, Grenada, Haiti, Kiribati, Liechtenstein, Marshall Islands, Mauritius, Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, or Vatican City. Of course none of those counries have armed forces, either... :D


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 03:59:31 AM
Hey what about the vatican guards? oop sorry answered my own question, anyways wonder what the vatican guards carry.
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 04:04:42 AM
Ok, after much extensive research I have found that there is no standard issue for Andorra, Costa Rica, Dominica, Grenada, Haiti, Kiribati, Liechtenstein, Marshall Islands, Mauritius, Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, or Vatican City. Of course none of those counries have armed forces, either... :D

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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 04:06:22 AM
Owe by the way Luke thanks for all your hard work :salute:  :pok: ::) :D
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Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 04:15:39 AM
Owe by the way Luke thanks for all your hard work :salute:  :pok: ::) :D
Not a problem... Always ready to help. :salute:

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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 04:38:42 AM
Singapore -- SOG Powerlock black oxide with blasting cap crimper

But I do not have one. This started just a few years back. When I was in the forces many years back, we got a horrible no brand blunt knife + can opener combo. Ironic, since they stopped issuing canned rations long ago. After that spell was some Victorinox models, and now, it's the SOG.


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 04:41:45 AM
Singapore -- SOG Powerlock black oxide with blasting cap crimper

But I do not have one. This started just a few years back. When I was in the forces many years back, we got a horrible no brand blunt knife + can opener combo. Ironic, since they stopped issuing canned rations long ago. After that spell was some Victorinox models, and now, it's the SOG.

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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 04:45:34 AM
Well according to Ebay ::) :P the SOG Powerlock is Navy Seal issue and the SOG Paratool is also Navy Seal issue :think: either I am wrong or they are both issued for different jobs in the Seals ??? Could someone clarify this  :)


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 05:06:54 AM
This is an interesting thread. I hope there are a lot of responses.


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #12 on: July 16, 2008, 05:59:25 AM
Hey what about the vatican guards? oop sorry answered my own question, anyways wonder what the vatican guards carry.

They're SWISS GUARDS,,This is a toughy ::)

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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 06:51:40 AM
 I believe that one of the requirements for being the Vatican's Swiss Guards,besides being Roman Catholic,is also having done an active tour in the Swiss Army.I guess that there would at least be a Soldier/SI in their pockets.
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 07:21:14 AM
Well according to Ebay ::) :P the SOG Powerlock is Navy Seal issue and the SOG Paratool is also Navy Seal issue :think: either I am wrong or they are both issued for different jobs in the Seals ??? Could someone clarify this  :)
It is more than likely that neither is U.S. Navy SEAL issued. Sellers on eBay use things like that to appeal to the gullible people of the world. I've seen cheap, bright yellow and blue, Chinese "diving" knives listed as U.S. Navy SEAL issue.

That is not to say that the U.S. Navy doesn't issue Powerlocks to their men, I'm just saying that eBay isn't always honest (the sellers aren't, at least!).

If I'm not mistaken, the U.S. Navy SEALs are issued a SOG fixed blade. The "SEAL Team" I think.
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #15 on: July 16, 2008, 10:06:29 AM
Australia - Swisstool
British army - BAK

German Army - GAK

Swiss Army - (not sure when the next gen knives come in) Soldier/SI



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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 10:17:01 AM
Beauty thanks mate  :D
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 10:19:58 AM
Finland doesnt have any really official tool or knife unfortunately.theres just this Fiskars RK62 assault rifle bayonet that many of guys never even see in service-time,its rare to even see it in parades attached to rifles.


i have one version this rk62 bayonet:




many of the regulars and officers buy wholesale lots of the new m95  knife that is officially accepted to be carried in harness,and made for military purposes originally.
m95:

it has some variants in blade lenghts and sheaths:




and then theres these knifes and multis,mostly leathermans an vics,that different groups buy and have engraved,etched,burned or embroided with uniting logos representing their "job" in army(sorry i dont know the proper terms in english),like my sniper squad got our own leathermans,and these finnish puukkos that arent sold to any one else but only for guys who serviced at same post where i did.it has nice big cast bear with crown,holding a sword,on end of tang,which is my post´s traditional logo,and it has branded in gold,a historic drummer that represents history of my post,since the time we were under swedens power,they called the post as "royal sniper brigade of turku".
"we" have these kind of markings usually on our gear:

the one above is common to all posts,its the logo of our whole army.

above is my units logo,dates back hundreds of years.

this is very common way to make some knifes markings,this is for 1st sergeants:


http://images.google.fi/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/porpr/stop.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/porpr/frdf.dsp&h=341&w=250&sz=26&hl=fi&start=34&um=1&tbnid=vyif_BjG8trLyM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=88&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dporin%2Bprikaati%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dfi%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:fi:official%26sa%3DN

i hope soma day they will issue us some multitool,since id like to have some BO with unit engravings or something.


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #18 on: July 16, 2008, 10:23:57 AM
Thanks for the post mate, very interesting :)

BTW wasn't the first knife also called the Peltonen ???

http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/m95/sissipuukko_m95.html
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #19 on: July 16, 2008, 10:37:30 AM
Thanks for the post mate, very interesting :)

BTW wasn't the first knife also called the Peltonen ???

http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/m95/sissipuukko_m95.html

yes some call it since the guy who designed,has a last name"peltonen".but officially they call it m95 and rk 62 and often its also called as"sissi puukko",that sissi means in english something very close to "long-range ranger",or guerilla,what ever pleases u.

i got my rk62 as soon as the civil version came out,from his shop when i visited him at about age og some 14-16,cant remember even,but i remember ha was very nice old school blacksmith and he took me to his shop where he hammered my knife almost all the way into some large oak-block and twisted and punished it and the blade kept returning to its original shape time after time.since that day ive been learning knife making too.

this is the latest of m95 versions,its one inc shorter and bit wider,the blade.that is also version with gold plated finnish lion with swords. it aint so expensive as its so good.68 euros plus s&h.


http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/m95/sissipuukko_m95.html

u can carry,and most of guys do carry it like this:


(sorry for bad pic)
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #20 on: July 16, 2008, 10:42:11 AM
It's on the list of knives to get, as they look like a really good bushcrafter :)
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Reply #21 on: July 16, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
It's on the list of knives to get, as they look like a really good bushcrafter :)

theyre really good if u ask me,for any task in field from slicing food to chopping wood to start af fire.i like those tools and knives that are made with using in mind,not showing.


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #22 on: July 16, 2008, 10:56:53 AM
It's on the list of knives to get, as they look like a really good bushcrafter :)

theyre really good if u ask me,for any task in field from slicing food to chopping wood to start af fire.i like those tools and knives that are made with using in mind,not showing.
Thats exactly why I want one, ''no show, just all go'' :)
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #23 on: July 16, 2008, 12:23:09 PM
Well according to Ebay ::) :P the SOG Powerlock is Navy Seal issue and the SOG Paratool is also Navy Seal issue :think: either I am wrong or they are both issued for different jobs in the Seals ??? Could someone clarify this  :)
It is more than likely that neither is U.S. Navy SEAL issued. Sellers on eBay use things like that to appeal to the gullible people of the world. I've seen cheap, bright yellow and blue, Chinese "diving" knives listed as U.S. Navy SEAL issue.

That is not to say that the U.S. Navy doesn't issue Powerlocks to their men, I'm just saying that eBay isn't always honest (the sellers aren't, at least!).

If I'm not mistaken, the U.S. Navy SEALs are issued a SOG fixed blade. The "SEAL Team" I think.
The SK2000 I think :think:
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #24 on: July 17, 2008, 12:31:24 AM
Wow look @ the responses :o thanks guys I feel smarted already after reading all these post ::) So whats the list up to now :think:

US Navy Seals SOG SK2000
Australia Swisstool is this 1 standard or the spirit?
UK BAK
Germany GAK
Swiss SAK not really sure about this 1 :P ::) :D
Finland Fiskar R62
Singapore SOG Powerlock

I think this is it so far (if not) please edit and add @ your leisure Thanks guys :salute:


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #25 on: July 17, 2008, 12:54:57 AM
My brother who's in the Military said that Visiting U.S. forces in my country carry Gerber MT's. I'm not really sure if Gerber officially issued their tools to these soldiers.


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #26 on: July 17, 2008, 01:12:38 AM
Hello gene,
Its a shame that our army doesn't issue knives? or multitools. Batanggas Balisong are cheap and of good quality, does your bro knows if they issue that in some of our military men?
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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #27 on: July 17, 2008, 01:16:16 AM
Wow look @ the responses :o thanks guys I feel smarted already after reading all these post ::) So whats the list up to now :think:

US Navy Seals SOG SK2000
Australia Swisstool is this 1 standard or the spirit?
UK BAK
Germany GAK
Swiss SAK not really sure about this 1 :P ::) :D
Finland Fiskar R62
Singapore SOG Powerlock

I think this is it so far (if not) please edit and add @ your leisure Thanks guys :salute:



dont want to harass but its FiskarS RK62,the r comes from word RYNNÄKKÖ which compares to your assault,and the K from KIVÄÄRI which means rifle.its kinda odd "name" since the rifle and the knife both share the same code.


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Re: Military Issue tool (where and what?)
Reply #28 on: July 17, 2008, 04:20:40 AM
My brother who's in the Military said that Visiting U.S. forces in my country carry Gerber MT's. I'm not really sure if Gerber officially issued their tools to these soldiers.

In my experience; Gerber seems to pop up more with Maintenance Men and the Military than Leatherman. The vast majority of service members I've met have referred to all multis as "Gerber" regardless of the actual brand.


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Reply #29 on: July 17, 2008, 12:04:46 PM
My Swisstool previous owner was in the Australian army , were the swisstool is standard issue.                                       http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll287/multimat426/multitools/b214ec65.jpg[/img]]

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