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Help id
on: March 07, 2015, 10:16:15 AM
Can`t identify this knife. Its not an automobile nor a climber.





www.fuchs.ch is a helicopter and electro-technic company. I could understand the tool combination (scissors replaces metalfile). Maybe it was a special order for their workers. Can someone help me? Thanks a lot.


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Re: Help id
Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 10:34:01 AM
Nice old model Victoria stamped and tweezer head of alu?
Looks like a 84mm salesman with a small screwdriver instead of the small blade.
But this is a 91mm Model, right?
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Re: Help id
Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
That's a great toolset.  Love the inline small flat driver. :tu:


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Re: Help id
Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 12:24:20 PM
Yes its a 91 mm model. Alu tweezer.

I also love this tool combination. I'm no fan of the metalsaw.


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Re: Help id
Reply #4 on: March 07, 2015, 04:09:09 PM
Never seen before, but I like it already.


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Re: Help id
Reply #5 on: March 07, 2015, 05:50:29 PM
Nope, I believe it's the first time I see one like it.

Seems blue was the color of choice for technician type special orders, as both HP Climber and Telemechanique used it.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26135.0

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=55041.0

Hopefully jazzbass will know.


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Re: Help id
Reply #6 on: March 07, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
I want one  :drool:  :salute:


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Re: Help id
Reply #7 on: March 07, 2015, 06:11:35 PM
There is no beginning,or ending,and for this we are thankful,cos now is hard enough to understand!


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Re: Help id
Reply #8 on: March 07, 2015, 07:54:08 PM
According to the tools it could be from the early 70´s.


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Reply #9 on: March 08, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Very nice :tu:
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Re: Help id
Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 07:16:28 AM
Hopefully jazzbass will know.

 :D I do know, as it turns out. Ulli had it right in his original post - it's a special order by Robert Fuchs AG. The oldest one of these I've seen is a Climber variant with the technician screwdriver from the early 1960s. As is common with a lot of advertising/custom knives from this era, it was made as a part of the Elinox line:



This is an early use of the hot-stamping logo process, and on this knife it has since worn off unlike the one in Ulli's pictures. It's not clear how many custom runs they ordered, but Ulli's knife dates to 1973 and shows that they moved to the Super Tinker variant by then. This variation continued into the 1980s, this time with "Helikopter" added to the scales:



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Re: Help id
Reply #11 on: March 10, 2015, 10:49:07 AM
Thanks a lot Jazzbass. Really great information!

Maybe I should order some custom knives from victorinox for my own company...
I think that you have to take a minimum of 50 knives. Does anybody know? Maybe the flat screwdriver is still available.


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Re: Help id
Reply #12 on: March 10, 2015, 11:36:30 AM
wow...


jazzbass, could you please tell how much rare models of Victorinox knives (I mean models which are absent in SAKWiki) do you have?


I thought that SAKWiki contains information about all Victorinox models.. but Engineer, Fisherman Plus... now Fuchs Customs. Every your post brings a new knife...  :facepalm:


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Reply #13 on: March 10, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
Thanks for the info jazzbass, and as always, beautiful pictures :tu:
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Reply #14 on: March 10, 2015, 05:00:22 PM
Thanks a lot Jazzbass. Really great information!

Maybe I should order some custom knives from victorinox for my own company...
I think that you have to take a minimum of 50 knives. Does anybody know? Maybe the flat screwdriver is still available.

There's a really great knife store near me and I was talking to the owner this weekend. He's a Victorinox dealer (amongst others) and he was talking about how he'd love to get a custom run of Cadets made but the minimum order was either 500 or 1000 - more than he could move through his store. Maybe being from Switzerland you can get around this limitation? I know Victorinox bends this rule for SwissBianco and VSAKCS, so it is possible to get small runs made.

jazzbass, could you please tell how much rare models of Victorinox knives (I mean models which are absent in SAKWiki) do you have?

I don't really know to be honest. Maybe I'll look and start an unusual knife thread.


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Reply #15 on: March 10, 2015, 05:04:01 PM
I don't really know to be honest. Maybe I'll look and start an unusual knife thread.


It would be wonderful... Waiting for announcement!..  :tu:


P.S. By the way - do you collect only officer's series (84/91mm), am I right?
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Reply #16 on: March 10, 2015, 05:28:47 PM
P.S. By the way - do you collect only officer's series (84/91mm), am I right?

Correct. I also have a nice sized 93mm and 58mm collections as well, but I don't really specialize in those and buy them opportunistically. I'm actually contemplating selling both right now to fund other hobbies. The 84mm and 91mm stuff is staying, though  :D


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Re: Help id
Reply #17 on: March 10, 2015, 07:45:47 PM
jazzbass, could you please tell how much rare models of Victorinox knives (I mean models which are absent in SAKWiki) do you have?

I don't really know to be honest. Maybe I'll look and start an unusual knife thread.

Looking forward to that one. :tu:

I have a post-it on my computer monitor that says:

Do do: Hoffritz LE 1, Hoffritz LE 2, Angler Plus, Deluxe Angler (Waterman), Modeler, Woodsman, Master Fisherman.

There might be a few more and I might have already added some and it's an old post-it. :facepalm:

With ICanFixThat MIA and basilio busy, I don't get a lot of help with the wiki and I have a real job too. ;) I've been postponing doing the whole Delemont series as I want to make tool pages for all the tools and not just link them to Vic/Wenger pages we have as there were a few changes there.

I'd love it if more people would get involved in working on and filling the wiki with new info. marduk adds some info occasionally but it's a huge area that needs monitoring and adding new models or old ones that are missing.

I think I might make a How to with most important wiki stuff but you can simply take a look at an existing page to learn the code.


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Reply #18 on: March 16, 2015, 06:56:29 AM
Help I'd and value. Tx
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Reply #19 on: March 16, 2015, 09:42:11 AM
Read the label :)
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Reply #21 on: March 17, 2015, 02:52:00 AM
What was this made for etc, can anybody tell me about this mini champ
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Re: Help id
Reply #23 on: March 17, 2015, 03:02:45 AM
Wow u guys are amazing.  Of course ur right!!!



another question since u are so knowledgeable, are there any branded swiss army knives that are rare and valuable.  Like a limited type of thing.


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Reply #24 on: March 17, 2015, 03:06:16 AM
Loads, they have been made for 130 years and during that time there had been a lot of models that are collectable now. Depends on condition and scarcity. 


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Reply #25 on: March 17, 2015, 03:14:24 AM
I inherited about 200 branded sak's all in mint condition with box .  Thats why I'm asking.  I'm trying to sift through.


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Reply #26 on: March 17, 2015, 03:48:38 AM
Are you looking to sell it all as a lot, list it separatly or continue collecting? Either way, you've come to the right place. :) Most of the models you can identify by using sakwiki. That's the swiss army knife wiki. It's a sub-site of the forum. If you need any more help, just ask. And pictures with all the tools open are a LOT easier to identify


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Reply #27 on: March 17, 2015, 03:50:56 AM
I would like to sell them all.   I also have a tiffany and Co (the biggest one they made) but the scale is coming off a little


 

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