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Leatherman PST chronology project 233840

Newbie Posts: 43
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1170 on: June 25, 2020, 04:07:49 AM »
•   Rivets or knurled screws?
knurled screws
•   Lanyard attachment?
yes
•   (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot?
new
•   LEATHERMAN alone cast into plier pivot? Or with USA? Or TOOL?
Leatherman usa
•   A hard wire cutter notch?
yes
•   Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples)
Leatherman Portland Oregon
•   Inch ruler only, or inch/metric?
inch/metric
•   Date codes?
0601/0801
•   Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?)
clip
•   Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN alone? Or with USA? Or JAPAN?
Leatherman USA
•   Screwdrivers: pivot-in or pivot-out?
pivot out
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 62,577
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1171 on: June 25, 2020, 04:18:47 AM »
You might email Ford :think: LM doesn't keep records on this sort of thing... at least I don't think they do :shrug:

Never hurt to email them and ask though :cheers:
Newbie Posts: 43
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1172 on: June 25, 2020, 05:12:35 AM »
You might email Ford :think: LM doesn't keep records on this sort of thing... at least I don't think they do :shrug:

Never hurt to email them and ask though :cheers:
:cheers: I'll give it a shot doesnt hurt to ask
Newbie Posts: 6

Acd

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1173 on: August 25, 2020, 02:14:46 AM »
Hey there fellow PST fans. Looks like this thread is still going. Is the admin still collecting info on PST’s? If so and before I give in on my 4 PSTs I need clarification on the “screwdriver” pivot in or out topic. It is not clear to me how to know if it does or not. Can some describe or post a picture on how to determine if the screwdrivers pivoting in or out.  Ty
Global Moderator No Life Club Posts: 3,474
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1174 on: August 25, 2020, 02:42:14 AM »
Hi and welcome Acd,

We are not collecting this info for research any more
However there is still a very active group following this thread and we all still love the PST and are very interested to see what people have
- So post away   :tu:
- There is also a group of members here who still prefer and carry the PST!!

Here is a pivot in / out  photo - The later one (pivot out) is on the right
There was a discussion on this somewhere - Maybe even in this thread
We believe that this design change was done to make it much less likely for the screwdriver to fold in when applying downward pressure
And there is a similar design on some SDs today - even on the locking tools!
« Last Edit: January 09, 2021, 01:23:18 AM by Huntsman »
Newbie Posts: 6

Acd

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1175 on: August 26, 2020, 05:02:06 PM »

Here is a pivot out / in photo - The later one on the right

Thx for the reply. I have read through a bunch of the thread here but, will admit not the whole thing. A lot has been said over the years. A lot of good things that is. It’s been an interesting read.

So just to be clear. You are saying that the newer model (pictured on the right side) is pivoting ? Which way?
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 62,577
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1176 on: August 26, 2020, 05:24:13 PM »
Pivot out is on the right and pivot in is on the left :cheers:

Welcome to :MTO: Acd :tu: If you have questions most of us here will help if we are able to do so :cheers:
Newbie Posts: 6

Acd

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1177 on: August 26, 2020, 08:14:10 PM »
I have 4 plus one PSTII but, the only PST I have interest in learning more about would be my early one with rivets and no date code. Did someone happen to complete the spreadsheet that helps to identify dates/time frame of tool updates and changes?

If you would like, I can fill out the list of questions for the early PST I have. Maybe you guys can help identify its age just by that?  Let me know
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 62,577
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1178 on: August 26, 2020, 08:41:37 PM »
If it has rivets then it is a Japanese made PST and made in the mid to late 80's :cheers: We have a few experts that can get you down to the year and some even to the month :o :D I am not one of those though :shrug: :rofl:
Jr. Member Posts: 50
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1179 on: August 26, 2020, 11:30:22 PM »
I have 4 plus one PSTII but, the only PST I have interest in learning more about would be my early one with rivets and no date code. Did someone happen to complete the spreadsheet that helps to identify dates/time frame of tool updates and changes?

If you would like, I can fill out the list of questions for the early PST I have. Maybe you guys can help identify its age just by that?  Let me know
Perhaps you'll find this URL of interest ...
https://www.smartknives.com/Leatherman-Multi-Tools/PST.htm
Newbie Posts: 6

Acd

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1180 on: August 27, 2020, 12:42:33 AM »
Perhaps you'll find this URL of interest ...
https://www.smartknives.com/Leatherman-Multi-Tools/PST.htm

Yep that is good info.
So I think mine is a “Reg'd TM trademark text with Leatherman Japan on blade tang“. From what is written it was made around 1985-88? Can anyone clarify?
Also, I know there is a bit of rejuvenation/interest in PSTs. What would be an estimate of resale for something like this (and other versions)?
« Last Edit: August 27, 2020, 02:16:13 AM by Acd »
Global Moderator No Life Club Posts: 3,474
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1181 on: August 27, 2020, 12:43:33 AM »
I have 4 plus one PSTII but, the only PST I have interest in learning more about would be my early one with rivets and no date code.
Did someone happen to complete the spreadsheet that helps to identify dates/time frame of tool updates and changes?
If you would like, I can fill out the list of questions for the early PST I have. Maybe you guys can help identify its age just by that?  Let me know

When you say complete the spreadsheet - Do you mean the spreadsheet on page one of this thread? - And if so what do you mean by complete?
This spreadsheet gives a pretty high level view of the major generational changes to the PST as discussed on the first page
I don't think we are planning to change it any more.

However other members here have a way more detailed breakdown - I can't remember the exact number - But it is something like 150 variations or more

So I would suggest posting your questions here and if they don't get responded to - We'll give the gurus a nudge!!
Global Moderator No Life Club Posts: 3,474
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1182 on: August 27, 2020, 03:47:03 AM »
Perhaps you'll find this URL of interest ...
https://www.smartknives.com/Leatherman-Multi-Tools/PST.htm

Thanks for this Heywood - I know smartknives, but never looked at their PST info!
It's a very nice page so I added a link to the first post in this thread!
Jr. Member Posts: 50
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1183 on: August 27, 2020, 06:04:32 AM »
Thanks for this Heywood - I know smartknives, but never looked at their PST info!
It's a very nice page so I added a link to the first post in this thread!
Stoked to be of assistance mate. Cheers!
Newbie Posts: 6

Acd

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1184 on: August 28, 2020, 01:50:54 AM »
Is anyone able to help clarify/confirm the age of my PST above?
No Life Club Posts: 4,671 Apparently it is possible to have too many tools;)
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1185 on: August 28, 2020, 05:30:12 PM »
Yep that is good info.
So I think mine is a “Reg'd TM trademark text with Leatherman Japan on blade tang“. From what is written it was made around 1985-88? Can anyone clarify?
Also, I know there is a bit of rejuvenation/interest in PSTs. What would be an estimate of resale for something like this (and other versions)?

AFAIK the Japanese made LM PSTs changed from "US PAT 4238862" to "US REG'D TM 1325473" around late 1989, and these were the final JPST version (I call them version 5) before production reverted to US only. The latest ones made had "REG'D TM 1325473"  (no "US").  So your JPST looks like it was made some time after late 1989.  wowaboro has looked at the versions, variants and dates in much more detail than me, so maybe he can narrow it down further.

The v5 seems to be the most common JPST, although there were a few rarer variants mode with "hollow" rivets.

I have no idea of the current market prices for a v5 JPST, but JPSTs generally sold for more than common PSTs back when I was actively collecting.  The earlier (v3 & v4) JPSTs are less common, and often fetched higher prices than the v5, and any JPST with  "hollow" rivets often was more sought after as well.

A look on ebay for "sold" JPSTs may give you some guidance on recent actual sale prices (as opposed to the opportunists who put a crazy price on something and hope some sucker takes the bait).

I hope that info helps ....
« Last Edit: August 28, 2020, 05:46:15 PM by gregozedobe »

babola: "Enjoy your tools and don't be afraid to air your opinion and feelings here, but do it in courteous and respectable way toward others, of course."
Newbie Posts: 6

Acd

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1186 on: August 29, 2020, 02:07:14 AM »
 :tu:  Thanks for the great info :tu:
New User Posts: 2
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1187 on: November 02, 2020, 05:52:04 PM »
From a friends wedding…gift to the groomsmen, back in 1999.

•   Rivets or knurled screws?
knurled screws
•   Lanyard attachment?
yes
•   (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot?
OLD (with cap crimper)
•   LEATHERMAN alone cast into plier pivot? Or with USA? Or TOOL?
LEATHERMAN USA
•   A hard wire cutter notch?
yes
•   Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples)
LEATHERMAN® TOOL PORTLAND OR (angular font)
•   Inch ruler only, or inch/metric?
inch/metric
•   Date codes?
0299 / 0399
•   Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?)
Clip
•   Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN alone? Or with USA? Or JAPAN?
LEATHERMAN USA
•   Screwdrivers: pivot-in or pivot-out?
Out
•   Screwdriver Letter / Digit (front/back)
C/2
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 62,577
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1188 on: November 03, 2020, 01:09:26 AM »
Is it Black Oxide or Stainless Steel  :think:

Otherwise it is still sweet with the cap crimper :like:
No Life Club Posts: 4,671 Apparently it is possible to have too many tools;)
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1189 on: November 03, 2020, 01:26:32 AM »
Is it Black Oxide or Stainless Steel  :think:

Otherwise it is still sweet with the cap crimper :like:

IIRC the SS CC PSTs were much less common than the BO CC Version (presumably because they were seen as less "tactical" ;) )

babola: "Enjoy your tools and don't be afraid to air your opinion and feelings here, but do it in courteous and respectable way toward others, of course."
New User Posts: 1
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1190 on: November 12, 2020, 03:52:55 AM »
Well, better late than never...

•   Rivets or knurled screws?
Knurled screws

•   Lanyard attachment?
Yes

•   (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot?
Old small diameter pivot

•   LEATHERMAN alone cast into plier pivot? Or with USA? Or TOOL?
Leatherman USA

•   A hard wire cutter notch?
No

•   Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples)
Leatherman Tool  US Registered TM 1325473 Portland OR

•   Inch ruler only, or inch/metric?
Inch / metric

•   Date codes?
None

•   Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?)
Saber clip point

•   Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN alone? Or with USA? Or JAPAN?
LEATHERMAN USA

•   Screwdrivers: pivot-in or pivot-out?
pivot-in
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 62,577
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1191 on: November 12, 2020, 03:57:54 AM »
Sounds like a nice one, Rich :like: and welcome to :MTO: :cheers:
Global Moderator No Life Club Posts: 3,474
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1192 on: November 12, 2020, 11:45:15 AM »
Pivot out is on the right and pivot in is on the left :cheers:

Thanks Ponch - I still get confused by this - Corrected my original post !
Hero Member Posts: 754

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1193 on: January 08, 2021, 09:31:08 PM »
LM PST BO DAK
A few days ago I found this Leatherman PST Black Oxide in my mail... Well, I had to pay for it of course, however I think (hope) it was a bargain.
Anyway, this PST BO has a pouch with the gold-colored Netherlands Defence Forces "interservice" logo printed on the flap.
Handles are inside dated 0696 and 0896.
The pliers have the notch.
The tool itself has a NSN inscripted in one of the handles: NSN 5110-01-321-8805, which is odd because the "01" means it is registered for the US.

Has anyone seen such a Dutch Army Knife LM PST before???

At the request of MTO member Wowaboro I share with you some more pictures of the Dutch Army Leatherman. Enjoy!
Hero Member Posts: 754
Hero Member Posts: 555
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1195 on: January 08, 2021, 09:56:41 PM »
LM PST BO DAK
A few days ago I found this Leatherman PST Black Oxide in my mail... Well, I had to pay for it of course, however I think (hope) it was a bargain.
Anyway, this PST BO has a pouch with the gold-colored Netherlands Defence Forces "interservice" logo printed on the flap.
Handles are inside dated 0696 and 0896.
The pliers have the notch.
The tool itself has a NSN inscripted in one of the handles: NSN 5110-01-321-8805, which is odd because the "01" means it is registered for the US.

Has anyone seen such a Dutch Army Knife LM PST before???


At the request of MTO member Wowaboro I share with you some more pictures of the Dutch Army Leatherman. Enjoy!

Thanks, Jan  :tu:
I specifically asked you to make more detailed photos because I had some doubts about your description. And I was right  ;)
1. Date codes: 0696 and 0895.
2. Pliers haven't the notch.
Now everything fell into place.
Thank you again  :cheers:
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 62,577
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1196 on: January 09, 2021, 12:07:57 AM »
Sweet PST,  EMZ :drool: :like: :like:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 11,839
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1197 on: January 09, 2021, 01:00:27 AM »
The BO PST is one of my favourites!

That one looks neat. Congrats EMZ  :like:
Did it come with a sheath?

Formerly known as MTMatt
No Life Club Posts: 4,671 Apparently it is possible to have too many tools;)
Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
« Reply #1198 on: January 09, 2021, 05:44:23 AM »
And some more.

Interesting NSN  :tu:

I have an older SS PST that I am told was issued to Portsmouth UK navy divers.

It is marked:  NSN 786-5369 ^ 1992

babola: "Enjoy your tools and don't be afraid to air your opinion and feelings here, but do it in courteous and respectable way toward others, of course."
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