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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #150 on: February 22, 2009, 06:11:23 PM
 :ahhh Man how do you guys have all the old tools :ahhh

They are lovely pics though :drool: :D


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #151 on: February 22, 2009, 08:24:36 PM
How early is that one? Look at the can/bottle opener, it looks weird! As a matter of fact, all of that PST's tools look different!

Yah, the can opener on the earliest PST's has a "left hand" cut to it. The ones that came along later have a right hand cut.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #152 on: February 22, 2009, 08:29:06 PM

Well that there is right at the top of my want list just now Bob. Until then, the closest I have is this one, which is identical, but has no markings except the US PAT number. It doesn't even say Leatherman. I'm not sure if it missed the machine, or maybe (and there are some signs to support this theory) some idiot removed the lettering  :think:

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Do you s'pose it had a company promotional name on it Dave, that someone polished off?

Yours does indeed have all the traits of an early-early: No lanyard ring, drop point knife blade, left hand can opener, "thin" heads on the knurled pivot screws, and a plier head that looks to have been belt sanded by hand. All the classic signs. :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #153 on: February 22, 2009, 11:47:02 PM
Do you s'pose it had a company promotional name on it Dave, that someone polished off?

It could be. The "grain" in the steel looks as though it's been sanded, but I can't see any trace of what they might have removed, which is a shame as I really want an example with "Pocket Survival Tool" on it.

But yes, it's definitely a very early model (no metric scale on ruler, saber blade etc) with little signs of actual use.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #154 on: February 22, 2009, 11:49:28 PM
:ahhh Man how do you guys have all the old tools :ahhh

I can't speak for Bob, but my answer would be "Not by chance" :D

I personally have spent years trawling ebay, contacting seller and asking them to look out for things etc. It actually takes a lot of time and effort.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #155 on: February 23, 2009, 11:09:09 PM
:ahhh Man how do you guys have all the old tools :ahhh

I can't speak for Bob, but my answer would be "Not by chance" :D

I personally have spent years trawling ebay, contacting seller and asking them to look out for things etc. It actually takes a lot of time and effort.

I would say that Bob has done the same :D

I just have to get to it and start trawling Ebay and any other place that might have them :tu:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #156 on: February 24, 2009, 03:55:14 AM
 :think: Guys does this look like one?




I know this is an older model PST but until I get it I don't know how old and this is the only pics they had of it :)


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #157 on: February 25, 2009, 12:52:17 AM
It looks to me as if it has the left handed can opener? Not entirely sure!
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #158 on: February 25, 2009, 12:53:21 AM
That looks pretty similar to the pic I put up above ponch. It has the old saber shaped blade, and the can opener looks like a very early one.

There doesn't appear to be a hard wire notch in the cutters.

It's hard to be certain, but I would definitely take a punt on that one I reckon (like that means much  ::)).

I hope it's a good one mate :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #159 on: February 25, 2009, 01:54:23 AM
Thanks guys :tu: I hope it's an old one :ahhh

What about the sheath it says it's marked as well :think: Could it be a ver early sheath as well ??? :D


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #160 on: February 25, 2009, 01:58:03 AM
I've got a sheath very similar to that poncho - but I can't tell if it's exactly the same. I bought it new quite recently.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #161 on: February 25, 2009, 02:22:55 AM
That one does indeed look promising Poncho. :) I can't wait to see some clearer photos of it.

As regards the sheath...I've never seen an older Leatherman one like that :think:



Oh by the way Dave, we are calling those early blades "drop points." I've also seen where Leatherman and Cabelas referred to that shape as "spey points."

The "saber points" are the next series that have the really deep, long clipped area:



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The middle style blade is nicknamed the "saber" because of its big sweeping clip point. Later on they made the clip point smaller (top picture)

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #162 on: February 25, 2009, 03:20:49 AM
I've got a sheath very similar to that poncho - but I can't tell if it's exactly the same. I bought it new quite recently.

 :tu: Thanks Dave :D

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #163 on: February 25, 2009, 04:59:04 AM
 :ahhh Upon looking into it some more I read on the 1st page of this thread and read the listing again and it said

LEATHERMAN TOOL US PAT. 4238862 PORTLAND OR. is on the handles :tu:

Which means it may be a mid to early 80s :drool: I am just hoping that this is all right (the listing I mean :ahhh ) :D

Can anybody tell I am a little excited :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #164 on: February 26, 2009, 01:22:50 AM
:ahhh Upon looking into it some more I read on the 1st page of this thread and read the listing again and it said

LEATHERMAN TOOL US PAT. 4238862 PORTLAND OR. is on the handles :tu:

Which means it may be a mid to early 80s :drool: I am just hoping that this is all right (the listing I mean :ahhh ) :D

Can anybody tell I am a little excited :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D

Try not to pee yourself Ponch! :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #165 on: February 26, 2009, 02:22:43 AM
:ahhh Upon looking into it some more I read on the 1st page of this thread and read the listing again and it said

LEATHERMAN TOOL US PAT. 4238862 PORTLAND OR. is on the handles :tu:

Which means it may be a mid to early 80s :drool: I am just hoping that this is all right (the listing I mean :ahhh ) :D

Can anybody tell I am a little excited :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D

Try not to pee yourself Ponch! :D

but they said it was mint condition :ahhh


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #166 on: February 26, 2009, 02:50:22 AM
They always do ponch, they always do. Let's hope they don't mean a mint like a lifesaver / polo, i.e. there's a big hole in the middle ;)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #167 on: February 26, 2009, 02:51:19 AM
Oh by the way Dave, we are calling those early blades "drop points." I've also seen where Leatherman and Cabelas referred to that shape as "spey points."

The "saber points" are the next series that have the really deep, long clipped area:

Of course they are. Sorry, minor brain fart there I think.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #168 on: February 26, 2009, 05:19:53 AM
They always do ponch, they always do. Let's hope they don't mean a mint like a lifesaver / polo, i.e. there's a big hole in the middle ;)

 :ahhh

I hope there isn't a hole in it  :o :D


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #169 on: February 27, 2009, 04:18:24 AM
 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh It's here :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

and it was in like new condition :o

•   Rivets or knurled screws?
Knurled screws
•   Lanyard attachment?
No
•   (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot?
Old
•   LEATHERMAN alone cast into plier pivot? Or with USA? Or TOOL?
Leatherman and USA
•   A hard wire cutter notch?
No
•   Handles stamped with what?
LEATHERMAN TOOL (not large font) US PAT 4238862 PORTLAND OR
•   Inch ruler only, or inch/metric?
Inch only
•   Date codes?
no datecodes
•   Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?)
Drop Point
•   Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN alone? Or with USA? Or JAPAN?
LEATHERMAN -USA-
•   Screwdrivers: pivot-in or pivot-out?
In

pictures to follow :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #170 on: February 27, 2009, 04:21:56 AM
Well here is a few group shots while I wait for the others to load in photobucket :D

The MTs pictured are my SideClip, my 1st PST, my PST II marked as a PST and my new Old PST :D






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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #171 on: February 27, 2009, 04:43:32 AM
 :pok: So here's what I got tell me what you think about the age it's just like the #2 model PST on the 1st page except it dosn't have anything printed on one of the handles?

The tool 8)


The Plier head (note scratches on plier head caused by rubbing of file when opening and closing)



Only writing Stamped on outside of tool


Note riveted Construction and no lanyard ring


Inches only Ruler


Leatherman USA stamped drop point knife blade



Left Handed can opener and in pivot drivers


Milled Awl


Tiny Screwdriver way to tiny :ahhh :D



Well there it is gentlemen what do you think about it? I am very pleased with it myself :ahhh

But you can't tell that can you :D


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #172 on: February 27, 2009, 07:04:27 AM
VERY NICE PONCHO!!! :tu:  You certainly scored a nice one there!! I'll bet there aren't many around that old which are in such great shape.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #173 on: February 27, 2009, 07:06:36 AM
Say, there is one thing about these really early PST's that we haven't mentioned. On the insides of the handle channel, does yours by chance have somewhat of a bronze color to it?
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #174 on: February 27, 2009, 12:19:13 PM
 :drool:

That is a great find poncho - well done mate :tu:

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #175 on: February 27, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
Very nice mate.  :tu:  Someone has done a bit of a number on the blade edge though haven't they. :cry:  Still I'm sure you can sort that out.  :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #176 on: February 27, 2009, 01:51:35 PM
Say, there is one thing about these really early PST's that we haven't mentioned. On the insides of the handle channel, does yours by chance have somewhat of a bronze color to it?

I have to wait when I get home and check :tu:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #177 on: February 27, 2009, 01:53:16 PM
Very nice mate.  :tu:  Someone has done a bit of a number on the blade edge though haven't they. :cry:  Still I'm sure you can sort that out.  :)

Funny thing about that Gareth it doesn't ever seem to have been sharpened ::) it is razor sharp and seems factory :think: I guess Tim just wasn't as effective of a sharpener in the early days :D Could be wrong though :think: ;)


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #178 on: February 27, 2009, 03:23:07 PM
Very nice mate.  :tu:  Someone has done a bit of a number on the blade edge though haven't they. :cry:  Still I'm sure you can sort that out.  :)

Funny thing about that Gareth it doesn't ever seem to have been sharpened ::) it is razor sharp and seems factory :think: I guess Tim just wasn't as effective of a sharpener in the early days :D Could be wrong though :think: ;)

Really?  The grind line on your close-up looks kind of wonky.  As you say it could be that someone was having a bad day at the office.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #179 on: February 27, 2009, 04:06:09 PM
Very nice mate.  :tu:  Someone has done a bit of a number on the blade edge though haven't they. :cry:  Still I'm sure you can sort that out.  :)

Funny thing about that Gareth it doesn't ever seem to have been sharpened ::) it is razor sharp and seems factory :think: I guess Tim just wasn't as effective of a sharpener in the early days :D Could be wrong though :think: ;)

Really?  The grind line on your close-up looks kind of wonky.  As you say it could be that someone was having a bad day at the office.

A lot of these tools look "different" than what you normally see on a PST the blade almost looks handmade :)


 

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