If you could have Victorinox create a brand new 91mm layer....

[Syph007]

What would you want?

I think about this sometimes and for me for sure a layer with 2 long screwdrivers.  I LOVE the long phillips on the 111mm size SAKs and I would love that on a 91mm but also paired with a long flat driver.

I do like the cybertool layer but its thicker than I want it to be, and I only ever use the phillips and flat bits.  So I would like  layer half as thick with just two long simple drivers. 

I do like the wenger wrench and pairing that with the phillips as a layer would be nice too. 

There must be something else though that could be a new layer, the CT layer was the most recent new one, but I hope it's not the last.

[hiraethus]

1/4" version of the 4mm bit driver.  Would be a bit wide, but very handy.

Proper side cutters/snips/dikes.

[kosmo]

I don't have a cybertool to compare sizes, but what about a 1/4" square drive.

[tjfarrington2000]

A tool for opening phone cases


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[Steinar]

Well... given the possibility of non-standard tool thicknesses and all that jazz, I would like a two layer 91 mm where layer 1 would be large and small pen blade as usual, but with an awl as backside tool, second layer pruner blade and bottle opener, with fine screwdriver as backside tool. So, basically only stuff that already exists, but in a combination which isn't feasible given standard components.

[Caranthanus]

I would like The Hook on Delemont 85mm model

[Smashie]

The screwdriver/cap lifter and the chisel from the Spirit

[tommywp]

Couldn't agree more on the long drivers.

While not technically an extra layer, it would be awesome if they could add an extra inch of length and incorporate in a 3-mode 100 lumen flashlight. It would be one less thing to carry. Might have to loose one side of the knife but you could still have the Compact's configuration in 3 layers.

I'd also love to see a scissor that only took up on side of the layer. Maybe paired with a short metal file or serrated balde

[enki_ck]

I'm not sure how the extra reach under torque would effect the drivers and pins.

I fear there would be a lot driver bending and possible pin breakage.

Maybe the electricians would like a wire stripper ala the one SOG makes. That would be a rather simple addition. Not sure how popular though.

[Mextreme]

I'm easy to please. Just bring back the Yeoman and I'm good.

[enki_ck]

I don't have a cybertool to compare sizes, but what about a 1/4" square drive.

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Not sure how practical that would be. Rather useless without the sockets, and I don't believe there would be room for them onboard in a practical sized tool.

Maybe now that Vic took over Wengers factory, they might make a version of he Pocketgrip, with the 1/4 driver and bits, but without the pliers.

This combo would be interesting to me then.
- Knife/combo tool/backlayered driver holder.
- bit driver socket / more secure bit carrier (with room for maybe two more bits as the pliers would be gone)
- scissors

[tommywp]

Maybe house a bit in the corkscrew cut out and then add the appropriate bit driver as an inline tool.

[enki_ck]

Maybe house a bit in the corkscrew cut out and then add the appropriate bit driver as an inline tool.

Wenger already came up with a much better solution. The Pocketgrip houses 6 full sized bits (if pliers would be dropped, maybe even and carries the bit driver adapter in place of the corkscrew.

[Etherealicer]

Maybe house a bit in the corkscrew cut out and then add the appropriate bit driver as an inline tool.

Wenger already came up with a much better solution. The Pocketgrip houses 6 full sized bits (if pliers would be dropped, maybe even and carries the bit driver adapter in place of the corkscrew.

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I think they came up with an even better solution later, the in-scale-bit-driver (Titanium Series)

Although I'm not sure I would prefer that over the SwissTool Bit Kit, that seems like less of a compromise (good reach, easy to use and not really that much bigger).

[Etherealicer]

I have two primary wishes for Victorinox: Different blade shapes (not a fan of the spear-point) and bring back the marlin-spike

[enki_ck]

A spoon knife?

[Etherealicer]

A spoon knife?

Why not, or maybe sheepsfoot and drop-point... I would even take tanto

[tommywp]

ive never seen a pocketgrip in person but that bit storage looks like it consumes around 4 layers. If that's the case it would be a non-starter for me as keeping the SAK slim is my top priority. A single 2-sided bit in place of the corkscrew (maybe a 2-D one like Leatherman uses) and a bit driver that sits across 2 layers with a prybar/bottle opener and 58mmm scissor on the opposite side. Plus a blade and inline awl. That would be sweet.

[KaySuave]

I'm a lurker here at the forums and love your work Syph. I hope this thread is a sneaky way of asking which layer you should work on adapting to the 91mm frame next.

Anyway, I wish Victorinox made a 91mm layer with the phillips+can-opener+cap-lifter and reamer+fine-screwdriver on the back.

That layer with the serrated-blade+electrician-blade&corkscrew and scissors&hook layers would be the perfect SAK for me.

One can only dream.

[zoidberg]

I'm a lurker here at the forums and love your work Syph. I hope this thread is a sneaky way of asking which layer you should work on adapting to the 91mm frame next.

Anyway, I wish Victorinox made a 91mm layer with the phillips+can-opener+cap-lifter and reamer+fine-screwdriver on the back.

That layer with the serrated-blade+electrician-blade&corkscrew and scissors&hook layers would be the perfect SAK for me.

One can only dream.

Welcome to the forum buddy. 

Apart from the two blade types, I'm in the middle of making that SAK atm. If I had a spare e blade it would have gone in.

[tommywp]

Now I'm obsessing on this topic. not sure what they would need to do to the springs, but back tools that open up in line would be a huge improvement.  Take the scissor and saw layers for example...awl and small screwdriver backtools that opened up inline instead of perpendicular would be awesome. The smaller SAKs have inline tools on both sides so it doesn't seem like a huge leap. It wouldn't work with every layer/tool, but it seems like it could work for some. It would be a force multiplier!

[Syph007]

I have two primary wishes for Victorinox: Different blade shapes (not a fan of the spear-point) and bring back the marlin-spike
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Im not a fan either, I like a sheepsfoot better myself, but a tanto would actually work for me ok actually.  You get a point and a nice flat blade too, but then sharpening is more annoying.  When I thought about making new upgrade options for blades, I couldnt decide what profile of blades to offer.

I'm not sure how the extra reach under torque would effect the drivers and pins.

I fear there would be a lot driver bending and possible pin breakage.

I dont think that would be a problem, I do use the one on my workchamp alot, and since its a small phillips head, I think the torque that can be applied is pretty limited.  What I love it for is the reach. 

[tjfarrington2000]

Ooh ooh, an olive fork, or a tape measurer too small to read, or a hairbrush............ Oh wait, those are in that one display at the factory


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[ironraven]

I think, depending on if they are copywrited or patented, the flat bits like those from Leatherman and a driver for those could be made to work for a larger Cybertool-like layer

An inline awl with large blade.

A skinny blade layer with two small blades, or their equivalents, say a small blade and a combo tool. Don't think  you could do a corkscrew or a philips on the backside, but the fine screwdriver you find behind some files could probably fit.

But of course, now that they own Wenger, steal the best idea Wenger ever had, and bring in the WRENCH! Univeral wrench opposite the inline philips. I can immediately see that added to Compact, Spartan, Huntsman and Mountaneer variants. Can't see it being added to the Ranger, just too thick. 

[Aloha]

154CM main blade!  Kidding, it would be nice to see Vic do a wrench like Wenger.  I also wouldn't mind a main layer of the chisel rather than the back layer, like the one on the Swisstool/Spirit. 

[Etherealicer]

Ooh ooh, an olive fork, or a tape measurer too small to read, or a hairbrush............ Oh wait, those are in that one display at the factory


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[wmoco]

This:

[twiliter]

A long flat SD/scraper blade with 10mm and 1/4" hex openings on a non-backtool spring, maybe thicker than the scaler, but not as thick as the phillips/mag layer. Might be handy? A simple waterjet project with the right thickness stainless, but the factory could produce something like this easily. 

Good question Syph, hard one to answer because so much has already been thought of. 

[Smashie]

Ooh ooh, an olive fork, or a tape measurer too small to read, or a hairbrush............ Oh wait, those are in that one display at the factory


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Any SAK with a fish scaler already has an olive fork and a small ruler 

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,58833.0.html