Old School, Baby!

[ringzero]

I followed Hoghead's link in another thread to check out his Duluth leather duffel.  Duluth is an Old School manufacturer of heavy duty packs that I hadn't even thought of for years.

Here's a Duluth rucksack that looks excellent to me:


http://www.duluthpack.com/product_detail.aspx?product=Wanderer

What I like about it:
-Good looking, classic Old School design.
-Heavy duty fabric and construction.
-Top-loading with drawstring and flap closure - no zipper!
-Nice roomy outside pockets with flaps - no zippers!
-Outside closures use straps and buckles - no zippers!

Great rucksack I'm sure, but a little pricey.  Anyone know a source for similar Old School rucks priced a little more reasonably?

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[Tarrodemierda]

Heres one i thought would please you,i like it a lot,my dad one and he used it for some 25 years:

Savotta 323

savotta 123
(this has been in production continuousky from beginning of 50`s,so i bet its old school and really reliable)



by the way,as a little guarantee´....the finnish army buys all their pouhes and bags for ous Rangers,paratroops etf from this company "Finn-Savotta".heres two military models(the 323 is an old issued backpack).

Savotta LJK
(for paratroops)

Savotta Raja (raja means bordes,this one is for border patrolling staff)


i use this one,its genuine war time Finnish army issue:

just under 20 euros,man!


and few more

Swedis army´s:


GERMAN Bundeswehr´s mountaineering forces"Gebirgsjäger":

(theres older version too without those plastic parts)

this is  czechoslovakia´s army issue one,its copy from ww2 German"Ersatz" bag:


every man should try this Russian"Vesmeshok" (that means suffering backpack),after using this u really dont complain about any other bag,this is as bad it can get)


or how about this Swedish m39:



and last,one from Norway army:



if theres any intresting and you would like to have one,and u cant,from your country,let me know

[ringzero]

Heres one i thought would please you,i like it a lot,my dad one and he used it for some 25 years:

Savotta 323
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savotta 123
(this has been in production continuousky from beginning of 50`s,so i bet its old school and really reliable)
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Thanks Tarrodemierda!  Amazing that you came up with all these different rucks so quickly.

Like the looks of the two Finnish rucks above, especially the one that your dad owned, it looks nice and roomy.

by the way,as a little guarantee´....the finnish army buys all their pouhes and bags for ous Rangers,paratroops etf from this company "Finn-Savotta".heres two military models(the 323 is an old issued backpack).

Savotta LJK
(for paratroops)
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Savotta Raja (raja means bordes,this one is for border patrolling staff)
(Image removed from quote.)

That Raja looks interesting.  Padded shoulder straps and waistbelt, and a frame.  Bigger than most rucksacks, but looks like a very nice overnight/weekend pack.

i use this one,its genuine war time Finnish army issue:
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just under 20 euros,man!

Nice looking ruck - looks good for 20 Euros.

every man should try this Russian"Vesmeshok" (that means suffering backpack),after using this u really dont complain about any other bag,this is as bad it can get)
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LOL!  You can tell that Vesmeshok would be Hell to carry with any weight in it, without even putting it on.  What a lame design.

if theres any intresting and you would like to have one,and u cant,from your country,let me know

Thanks for offering to help Tarrodemierda.  Doubt it'd be worth the cost of shipping a surplus rucksack from Finland to me in USA.

I used to find rucks similar to those in the Military Surplus stores around here - for very cheap prices.  Lately it seems they have more modern stuff, like nylon rucks with plastic buckles, zippers, etc.

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[Medic82]

We use this in Norway also as our “main pack” and is called Ludvig after a character in an old Norwegian movie.
                                                                                   This is Ludvig


This is an outdated pack we call Stridssekk that translate too Combat pack. It’s a very small pack that you carry a thick wool sweater, something too cook your food in, 3 tent poles and a poncho like piece of tent thing with some buttons on it so you can join several of them and make a big tent. You fasten the Stridssekk too your Ludvig and if you have to get away quickly during a ambush or something, you just unhook it and take it with you.



This is the Norwegian new stridssekk and is 100 times better than the old one


This might be a pack used in Sweden but the guy carrying the pack is wearing a Norwegian M79 camo jacket

[Tarrodemierda]

hey thanks medic,good to know.

this stridssekk,isnt it made by bergans?
do they have it there,in norway,in surplus stores?

[Medic82]

Both the Ludvig and Stridssekk is made by Bergans. Have seen the old stridssekk in surplus store now and again butt not the new one. I got a copy of the new stridssekk that I bought from http://www.miltrad.no/webshop/index.jsp , it’s not a surplus store butt they take products that the military use and improve them. The stridssekk I bought from them is expensive butt MUCH better than the one the army use. I can check out some stores for you if you want??

[Tarrodemierda]

if it aint a problem,please check yes,im intrested in that a lot.

 

[ringzero]

I used to find rucks similar to those in the Military Surplus stores around here - for very cheap prices.  Lately it seems they have more modern stuff, like nylon rucks with plastic buckles, zippers, etc.

Hey guys, I just found a German surplus rucksack at Cabelas:



http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0026022516442a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&No=72&Ntt=pack&noImage=0&Ntk=Products&QueryText=pack&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&Nty=1

Not exactly what I had in mind, but close.  Except for its Fastex buckle closures, this is definitely an Old School rucksack.

Only $19.99 and has:
-heavy fabric and construction
-padded shoulder straps
-waistbelt
-side pockets will hold 1 liter bottles
-ski slots behind the side pockets
-interior pocket with velcro
-NO ZIPPERS!
-good reviews and rating on Cabelas site

I'll be keeping an eye out for a larger rucksack similar to this, but I'll be adding this rucksack to my next order from Cabelas.  This has to be the best bang-for-your-buck rucksack I've seen in a long time.

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[Tarrodemierda]

ive been droolong their stuff and finally at the beginning of this year i ordered one bag from here:

http://stores.ebay.com/Frost-River-North-Country_W0QQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247


                     

i couldnt afford to to those bigger ones but i got this:

[ringzero]

ive been droolong their stuff and finally at the beginning of this year i ordered one bag from here:

http://stores.ebay.com/Frost-River-North-Country_W0QQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247


                     

i couldnt afford to to those bigger ones but i got this:
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Never heard of that outfit, but they do offer a lot of neat looking Old School stuff.

Beautiful rucksack, Tarro!

"Golden Age of Mountaineering Rucksack" - love that name.

Also love its classic Old School appearance.

You could easily spend that much on a small rucksack from North Face, Lowe, etc. that won't look anywhere near as cool as yours.

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[Tarrodemierda]

well i like to use old stuff,old simple axes,knives etc,smutty coffee pans and so on.

"no school like old school",like it says in my old school chopper too




but yes in longer trips i use a lot of modern stuff too.but my eyes are more comfortable lookin at some vintage stuff.

[Anthony]

I used to find rucks similar to those in the Military Surplus stores around here - for very cheap prices.  Lately it seems they have more modern stuff, like nylon rucks with plastic buckles, zippers, etc.

Hey guys, I just found a German surplus rucksack at Cabelas:

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http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0026022516442a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&No=72&Ntt=pack&noImage=0&Ntk=Products&QueryText=pack&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&Nty=1

Not exactly what I had in mind, but close.  Except for its Fastex buckle closures, this is definitely an Old School rucksack.

Only $19.99 and has:
-heavy fabric and construction
-padded shoulder straps
-waistbelt
-side pockets will hold 1 liter bottles
-ski slots behind the side pockets
-interior pocket with velcro
-NO ZIPPERS!
-good reviews and rating on Cabelas site

I'll be keeping an eye out for a larger rucksack similar to this, but I'll be adding this rucksack to my next order from Cabelas.  This has to be the best bang-for-your-buck rucksack I've seen in a long time.

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I bought this pack at an army surplus store in NH last summer for the same price.  I haven't used it as in actually using it for camping, but I've loaded it up and inspected it a few times and it's really nice for $20.  I can't find any weak points, although I did replace the cotton drawstring with 550 paracord.  I will be taking it with me this weekend/next week back to NH.  I'm going to use it as my daypack on the trails/fishing.  I don't remember ski slots behind the side pockets..I'll have to check it again

[ringzero]

I used to find rucks similar to those in the Military Surplus stores around here - for very cheap prices.  Lately it seems they have more modern stuff, like nylon rucks with plastic buckles, zippers, etc.

Hey guys, I just found a German surplus rucksack at Cabelas:

(Image removed from quote.)

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0026022516442a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&No=72&Ntt=pack&noImage=0&Ntk=Products&QueryText=pack&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&Nty=1

Not exactly what I had in mind, but close.  Except for its Fastex buckle closures, this is definitely an Old School rucksack.

Only $19.99 and has:
-heavy fabric and construction
-padded shoulder straps
-waistbelt
-side pockets will hold 1 liter bottles
-ski slots behind the side pockets
-interior pocket with velcro
-NO ZIPPERS!
-good reviews and rating on Cabelas site

I'll be keeping an eye out for a larger rucksack similar to this, but I'll be adding this rucksack to my next order from Cabelas.  This has to be the best bang-for-your-buck rucksack I've seen in a long time.

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I bought this pack at an army surplus store in NH last summer for the same price.  I haven't used it as in actually using it for camping, but I've loaded it up and inspected it a few times and it's really nice for $20.  I can't find any weak points, although I did replace the cotton drawstring with 550 paracord.  I will be taking it with me this weekend/next week back to NH.  I'm going to use it as my daypack on the trails/fishing.  I don't remember ski slots behind the side pockets..I'll have to check it again

Thanks for the feedback, Corrugated - glad to hear you like this little rucksack.

Ski slots were mentioned by one of the reviewers on the Cabelas site.  It'd be nice if it has them, but not a deal breaker if it doesn't.  I use ski slots for other things - tent poles, fishing rods, etc. - more often than I'd actually use them for skis.

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[Anthony]

Well I checked and yes, there are two slots (the width of the pouch) on the sides.  I never noticed them because the canvas is really heavy and is kinda ridged, so unless you stuck your fingers in there it looked like it was stiched in.



  Skis? no.  But a tomahawk/hatchet/axe in one of those slots?  YES!

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Facinating thread fella's, keep em coming

Here's the truly awful British Army 58 pattern one

[Tarrodemierda]

58 pattern is what i crave for,man,they dont sell anything except for some small pouches in 58´s.do they sell those backpack there in surplus stores?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

58 pattern is what i crave for,man,they dont sell anything except for some small pouches in 58´s.do they sell those backpack there in surplus stores?

Not so much now as it's all PLCE stuff these days, and what you do find is either knackered, or stupidly expensive for what it is

[Hoghead]

I followed Hoghead's link in another thread to check out his Duluth leather duffel.  Duluth is an Old School manufacturer of heavy duty packs that I hadn't even thought of for years.

Here's a Duluth rucksack that looks excellent to me:

What I like about it:
-Good looking, classic Old School design.
-Heavy duty fabric and construction.
-Top-loading with drawstring and flap closure - no zipper!
-Nice roomy outside pockets with flaps - no zippers!
-Outside closures use straps and buckles - no zippers!

Great rucksack I'm sure, but a little pricey.  Anyone know a source for similar Old School rucks priced a little more reasonably?

.

One thing I can say about the Duluth Pack bags is that they are durable. I've used their leather duffel bag with about 40 to 50 pounds of books and gear daily for about 10 years. These get thrown up on the walk way of the engine (which has metal studs sticking up out of the walk way for traction) and they show wery little wear. I've had other bags wear out in 6 months.

Two of my co-workers use Duluth Pack bags and theirs have held up for years too. One has a canvas/leather duffel and the other has a canvas/leather backpack.

Duluth Pack is about a hundred year old company that specializes in gear for canoeing. Probably because they are near to the Boundry Water Canoe Area Wilderness (known locally as The Boundry Waters).

Some time when I'm flush I'll probably buy some of their backpacks.

[ringzero]

One thing I can say about the Duluth Pack bags is that they are durable. I've used their leather duffel bag with about 40 to 50 pounds of books and gear daily for about 10 years. These get thrown up on the walk way of the engine (which has metal studs sticking up out of the walk way for traction) and they show wery little wear. I've had other bags wear out in 6 months.

Two of my co-workers use Duluth Pack bags and theirs have held up for years too. One has a canvas/leather duffel and the other has a canvas/leather backpack.

Duluth Pack is about a hundred year old company that specializes in gear for canoeing. Probably because they are near to the Boundry Water Canoe Area Wilderness (known locally as The Boundry Waters).

Some time when I'm flush I'll probably buy some of their backpacks.

No doubt that Duluth packs are robust and durable.  For many people Duluth packs are worth their higher prices just because of that durability.

Two brothers in my Scout Troop had ancient Duluth packs they inherited from their grandfather, which were the first I ever saw.  Even though old, worn, and stained, those Duluth packs were obviously a cut above the packs the rest of us Scouts had.  No nonsense, heavy duty packs, they also had tumplines, which were a revelation to me at the time.

At that time my pack was an old US Army Paratroop pack with built-in steel frame that my Dad had given me.  I had the coolest pack in my Troop, until the weekend those kids showed up with their Duluth packs.

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[Hoghead]

Two brothers in my Scout Troop had ancient Duluth packs they inherited from their grandfather, which were the first I ever saw.  Even though old, worn, and stained, those Duluth packs were obviously a cut above the packs the rest of us Scouts had.  No nonsense, heavy duty packs, they also had tumplines, which were a revelation to me at the time.

You know what I'm talking about then.   

If you ever get up to Duluth, they have a brick & mortar store downtown by Lake Superior right by The Inn on Lake Superior. They have some packs that look to be close to a hundred years old. I think there is a date on the plack by the packs.

[ringzero]

Two brothers in my Scout Troop had ancient Duluth packs they inherited from their grandfather, which were the first I ever saw.  Even though old, worn, and stained, those Duluth packs were obviously a cut above the packs the rest of us Scouts had.  No nonsense, heavy duty packs, they also had tumplines, which were a revelation to me at the time.

You know what I'm talking about then.   

If you ever get up to Duluth, they have a brick & mortar store downtown by Lake Superior right by The Inn on Lake Superior. They have some packs that look to be close to a hundred years old. I think there is a date on the plack by the packs.

Thanks for the info, Hoghead.

If I'm ever in Duluth again, I'll remember to check that out.

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[Hoghead]

You're welcome