B.O. Wave to Charge Tti?

SuzukiGS750EZ · **on:** June 29, 2015, 04:04:34 AM

Hey guys. Right now I have a black oxide wave. Somebody stole my surge over the past week and while I'm extremely annoyed it got stolen, I never used it. I didn't like the interchangeable saw/file and it was pretty large. I'm wondering if I should upgrade to a charge Tti, and if it's worth it going from the wave. What would I gain over the wave besides S30V?

detron · **Reply #1 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:13:03 AM

Quote from: SuzukiGS750EZ on June 29, 2015, 04:04:34 AM

Hey guys. Right now I have a black oxide wave. Somebody stole my surge over the past week and while I'm extremely annoyed it got stolen, I never used it. I didn't like the interchangeable saw/file and it was pretty large. I'm wondering if I should upgrade to a charge Tti, and if it's worth it going from the wave. What would I gain over the wave besides S30V?

You also gain a Gut hook on the Serrated Blade, and cap crimper in the pliers. I have both and carry the Charge, but I modded it with Rebar plier head and custom inside tools.

if you are happy with your Wave, save your money, if it is because the Charge is cool and shiny, go for it, this is a collectors forum after all.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #2 on:** June 29, 2015, 05:13:50 AM

Is the build quality any better? Weight difference any different in the pocket?

Henry · **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:56:42 AM

Weight difference is 9g, which is negligible, and the Charge is actually the heavier tool. The titanium is only the very outer layer. If you want to have a lighter multitool, the Charge AL is actually lighter.

Alternatively, if you don't want OHO blades, then the rebar is considerably lighter at 190g (25% less than a wave, and over 40% lighter than your surge!). The rebar would also get you back your 154CM Replaceable Wire Cutters (albeit smaller than the surge). Main negative would be no scissors and no bit driver.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2015, 02:30:04 PM

So if I go for the ALX, will the weight between the wave and that be noticeable? I see it has 154cm, which is still an upgrade from the wave. How well do the crimpers work? Are they meant for butt connectors in electrical and such? I'm more so looking to upgrade from the wave but I find the wave a bit on the heavy side (not heavy enough to be uncomfortable, but a lighter tool would be nice for lighter shorts)

carlb · **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:22:19 PM

The pliers in my opinion are much better on the wave. I hate the crimper in middle of charge pliers. A lot of people swap them out on the charge.

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sawman · **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:30:06 PM

Save your money. Keep your Wave.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:50:22 PM

Just wondering, what's the appeal of the tti over ALX? Just s30v and titanium? I love titanium and carbon fiber personally, but I think I'd lean towards the ALX. I'm guessing the crimpers to multi tool folks are like a partially serrated blade to knife folks, not enough of either to make it useful.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:58:43 PM

I see the ALX has those serrated fasteners. I do prefer the torx...

carlb · **Reply #9 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:24:54 PM

If I remember right, the alx doesn't have scissors.

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SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:17:08 PM

Oh shoot! I didn't even notice that.

Henry · **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:07:49 PM

Alx has two large bit drivers, the Al has 1 bit driver, scissors and a flathead screwdriver.

Crimpers is personal use, if you've never wished you need them, then you probably don't need them.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:30:21 AM

If you all had to upgrade from a wave, what would you get? I own a swisstool already. I've given away a super tool 300 and someone stole my wave, which I wasn't ever crazy about either.

carlb · **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:35:29 AM

Hard to say. I love my wave but I carry my Tti and surge the most. I really like the surge.

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SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2015, 02:33:17 AM

The full size tool is nice, but I dislike the blade changer. It's too wobbly and if I want the saw and file I've got to carry one or the other on me as well. I like pocket carry. Maybe I'll pony up for the tti. Are there any changes between the old and new besides cosmetic? I see cabelas sells a camo one with black tools.

Kampfer · **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2015, 02:35:49 AM

Quote from: SuzukiGS750EZ on June 30, 2015, 12:30:21 AM

If you all had to upgrade from a wave, what would you get?

Mini-Surge!

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2015, 03:05:51 AM

I like my swisstool and wonder if I would like the spirit.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2015, 03:27:48 AM

Yup. So I guess it's swisstool spirit x VS charge tti

zoidberg · **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2015, 03:45:38 AM

Quote from: SuzukiGS750EZ on June 30, 2015, 03:27:48 AM

Yup. So I guess it's swisstool spirit x VS charge tti

I have both.
It really comes down to the type of work you do and what you like.
FWIW I would take the Spirit over the Charge but take a modded Charge over the Spirit.

Kampfer · **Reply #19 on:** June 30, 2015, 04:00:23 AM

If you carry a folder, go with Spirit
If not go charge

Rossko07 · **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2015, 04:32:26 AM

The wave is a perfect all rounder. I wouldn't look at the alx/al/charge etc as an upgrade but rather as a more personalised tool.

When not carrying my surge my wave is always my go to tool.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #21 on:** June 30, 2015, 05:17:51 PM

I really think I'll buy a tti with clip, and gift my wave to somebody who would use it. I see most prices are about the same online, is it worth it to just buy right from leather man?

sawman · **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2015, 05:20:56 PM

Quote from: SuzukiGS750EZ on June 30, 2015, 05:17:51 PM

I really think I'll buy a tti with clip, and gift my wave to somebody who would use it. I see most prices are about the same online, is it worth it to just buy right from leather man?

In my experience, buying directly from LM can take a little longer to ship. I suggest finding a reliable eBay seller.

SuzukiGS750EZ · **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2015, 06:14:41 PM

I see on Amazon they offer the bit kit, extension and new charge tti for 180

SteveC · **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2015, 07:42:22 PM

Quote from: SuzukiGS750EZ on June 30, 2015, 05:17:51 PM

I really think I'll buy a tti with clip, and gift my wave to somebody who would use it. I see most prices are about the same online, is it worth it to just buy right from leather man?

Sounds like a good plan

I could use a Wave, feel free to gift it to me