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They're ruining the Skeletool

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00 Offline av8r1

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They're ruining the Skeletool
on: July 03, 2015, 12:23:54 AM
I went to get some stock shots of the Skeletool from Leatherman's website and I noticed that they've added a rivet to the end of the blade guard--a *very* proud rivet.



That's going to make the tool WAY less comfortable in hand and it's going to dig into your leg if you put it in your pocket.  I simply can't believe they've done that.

Has anyone been unfortunate enough to get one like that?
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #1 on: July 03, 2015, 09:16:20 AM
Probably old pics, I wouldn't stress over it mate.


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #2 on: July 03, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
The other rivet is very proud also. Hopefully it's as Zoid says.

Now we just need Al to join in here and tell us the Skeletool was already ruined... :pok:


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #3 on: July 03, 2015, 01:03:56 PM
The Skeletool was ruined as soon as they set up the tooling for production.  It's already very uncomfortable in the hand, what you see there is just the icing on the cake.


See? No need to bother Al, I can handle that for him. :P
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #4 on: July 03, 2015, 01:21:57 PM
The Skeletool was ruined as soon as they set up the tooling for production.  It's already very uncomfortable in the hand for a couple of people, what you see there is just the icing on the cake.

Fixed that for you.  ;)


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #5 on: July 03, 2015, 04:54:16 PM
The Skeletool was ruined as soon as they set up the tooling for production.  It's already very uncomfortable in the hand, what you see there is just the icing on the cake.


See? No need to bother Al, I can handle that for him. :P


I have to agree with Syncop8r. The Skeletool is probably only comfortable in hand for a small portion.
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #6 on: July 03, 2015, 05:03:50 PM
Get a Rebar  :pok: :pok:
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #7 on: July 03, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
Pull yourself together!
That is a photo of prototype. :twak:
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #8 on: July 03, 2015, 06:42:32 PM
Just to partake in the derailing, I find the Skeletool comfortable. I think it's an extremely interesting design: The asymmetric handles makes it, at least to me, the most comfortable knife of any pliers based multitool I own. Pretty much all pliers based MTs suck as knives, but the Skeletool tries very hard to be usable as both. I like it, but tastes and needs vary.

I care a lot about how the knife in an MT feels, and my internal ranking there is basically (1) Skeletool, (2) Those where the tang is closer to the index finger than the thumb (Wave, SwissTool, etc) (3) Those where the tang is closer to the thumb than the index finger (PST, Rebar, etc). Where the tang is correlates with whether the tools are outside or inside, but said it this way to stress that it is how they handle when fully deployed, not the deployment, which I dislike about using the knife on e.g. the PST. Special mention of the Spirit, where the knife feels incredibly clumsy, even though it's in category (2), on cause of the curved handles (which feel really nice when using the pliers).

Did I mention knifeless MTs make a lot of sense to me, since I often end up carrying an extra knife anyway? ;)

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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #9 on: July 03, 2015, 07:39:32 PM
too bad the bit didn't stick into the prototype comfort tester's hand  :pok:


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #10 on: July 04, 2015, 12:29:42 AM
The Skeletool was ruined as soon as they set up the tooling for production.  It's already very uncomfortable in the hand, what you see there is just the icing on the cake.


See? No need to bother Al, I can handle that for him. :P


I have to agree with Syncop8r. The Skeletool is probably only uncomfortable in hand for a small portion.

And another fixed...  ;)

I think it would be more comfortable if the pliers were spring-loaded.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2015, 12:31:33 AM by Syncop8r »


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #11 on: July 04, 2015, 09:18:35 AM
My skeletools are not uncomfortable. I shall refrain from any further comments.     :D
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #12 on: July 04, 2015, 10:51:00 AM
My Skeletool is pretty much optimal EDC multitool for me, and I find it very comfortable to use as well :)

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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #13 on: July 05, 2015, 11:41:40 PM
The Skeletool was ruined as soon as they set up the tooling for production.  It's already very uncomfortable in the hand, what you see there is just the icing on the cake.


See? No need to bother Al, I can handle that for him. :P

I agree, it was really uncomfortable.
The edges where pretty sharp and in plier mode i couldnt really handle it verry well due to the akward shapes.


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #14 on: July 06, 2015, 12:29:33 AM
The Skeletool was ruined as soon as they set up the tooling for production.  It's already very uncomfortable in the hand, what you see there is just the icing on the cake.


See? No need to bother Al, I can handle that for him. :P

I agree, it was really uncomfortable.
The edges where pretty sharp and in plier mode i couldnt really handle it verry well due to the akward shapes.

Thank you gentlemen  :salute: I personally find nothing appealing about the Skele whatsoever - the implements and functions, the ergonomics, the aesthetics, the price, probably Leatherman's worst design in their history IMHO - but I respect that some people feel differently about it  :salute:


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #15 on: July 06, 2015, 08:17:44 AM
The Skeletool was ruined as soon as they set up the tooling for production.  It's already very uncomfortable in the hand, what you see there is just the icing on the cake.


See? No need to bother Al, I can handle that for him. :P

I agree, it was really uncomfortable.
The edges where pretty sharp and in plier mode i couldnt really handle it verry well due to the akward shapes.

Thank you gentlemen  :salute: I personally find nothing appealing about the Skele whatsoever - the implements and functions, the ergonomics, the aesthetics, the price, probably Leatherman's worst design in their history IMHO - but I respect that some people feel differently about it  :salute:

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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #16 on: July 06, 2015, 04:06:14 PM
Thank you gentlemen  :salute: I personally find nothing appealing about the Skele whatsoever - the implements and functions, the ergonomics, the aesthetics, the price, probably Leatherman's worst design in their history IMHO - but I respect that some people feel differently about it  :salute:

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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #17 on: July 06, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
The Skeletool CX is the perfect EDC multi.  :tu:
For those times a Squirt is to small and a Surge is to big.  :cheers:


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #18 on: July 06, 2015, 04:45:03 PM
The Skeletool CX is the perfect EDC multi.  :tu:
For those times a Squirt is to small and a Surge is to big.  :cheers:
But the squirt and surge have scissors....the one thing the skeletool lack.
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #19 on: July 06, 2015, 04:48:29 PM
Thank you gentlemen  :salute: I personally find nothing appealing about the Skele whatsoever - the implements and functions, the ergonomics, the aesthetics, the price, probably Leatherman's worst design in their history IMHO - but I respect that some people feel differently about it  :salute:

Not the Tread, the Skeletool  ::)

Good point! I'd blanked that attrocity from my mind.
I'll revise my earlier statement to worst pliers tool design in their history IMHO. But again, if people feel comfortable with it, then good for them  :salute:


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #20 on: July 06, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
The Skeletool CX is the perfect EDC multi.  :tu:
For those times a Squirt is to small and a Surge is to big.  :cheers:
But the squirt and surge have scissors....the one thing the skeletool lack.

If you're looking for a lighter EDC and you have a knife, aren't scissors redundant?  :think:
The perfect squirt and surge compromise.  :cheers:


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #21 on: July 06, 2015, 06:29:09 PM
I have scissors as part of my edc, but I found tasks that requires scissors often can wait until later. For the office desk jockeys, there are always bigger better scissors laying around
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #22 on: July 06, 2015, 07:13:48 PM
I have scissors as part of my edc, but I found tasks that requires scissors often can wait until later. For the office desk jockeys, there are always bigger better scissors laying around

The Skeletool CX is the perfect EDC multi.  :tu:
For those times a Squirt is to small and a Surge is to big.  :cheers:
But the squirt and surge have scissors....the one thing the skeletool lack.

If you're looking for a lighter EDC and you have a knife, aren't scissors redundant?  :think:
The perfect squirt and surge compromise.  :cheers:
Both points taken. I work in a shop so scissors aren't always at hand, I always have a blade. So it is really more of convenience. I rather carry ONE tool with a blade and scissors on it than TWO different tools.
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #23 on: July 07, 2015, 09:39:48 PM
For some strange reason(maybe it's just me :whistle: ) , I keep snagging things with that open space of the blade guard. So, for me at least, the rivet should take care of that problem  :think: :tu:
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #24 on: July 07, 2015, 11:47:17 PM
I have heard that the skeletool plier pivot is pretty weak. do you have an experience of it ?
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #25 on: July 08, 2015, 12:20:34 AM
Wanted to add my two cents as we're talking about the merits of the skeletool and its one of my favorites. I carry it on weekends when I don't have any real work planned but just like being prepared. It sits between an SAK and a full size MT and for me it's the perfect niche. Throw a 58mm SAK some place and you've got lots of bases covered. I know the dimensions don't seem that much different, but in the pocket it seems much less noticeable then a wingman. And in the hand way more capable than a SAK with pliers.

Its definitely a niche, but if you're in that niche then the skele is awesome. That being said, I can see how it has little appeal if you don't mind carrying a larger MT.


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #26 on: July 08, 2015, 01:59:32 PM
I have heard that the skeletool plier pivot is pretty weak. do you have an experience of it ?
I have not had any problems with it. The Skeletool punches will above its size.


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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #27 on: July 11, 2015, 03:45:21 AM
I have heard that the skeletool plier pivot is pretty weak. do you have an experience of it ?
I have not had any problems with it. The Skeletool punches will above its size.


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It does perform well. Everyone always says using the pliers are uncomfortable, but I feel the weakest point of the skeletool is when using the drivers. There is no good way to use it that way
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #28 on: July 11, 2015, 04:02:38 AM
I have heard that the skeletool plier pivot is pretty weak. do you have an experience of it ?
I have not had any problems with it. The Skeletool punches will above its size.


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It does perform well. Everyone always says using the pliers are uncomfortable, but I feel the weakest point of the skeletool is when using the drivers. There is no good way to use it that way
I agree, love it in knife mode, like it in pliers mode, ok in driver mode.
Have pliers rest in the knife handle is a little better when in driver mode.
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Re: They're ruining the Skeletool
Reply #29 on: July 12, 2015, 06:22:54 PM
I like the Skeletool's bit driver, I use it all the time.  The thing I like about it is I can have it ready very quickly with no fumbling.  I also like putting the tool in L configuration so I can get a lot of torque on a screw.
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