Swiza SAKs?

[SAK Guy]

Speaking of cans, I hate the pull tabs because they leave a rim around the can and it's frickin' impossible to scrap everything out.  But it doesn't really matter since all the cans I buy need an opener. Everyone talks about pull tabs on cans but I rarely see them. It must be a European thing. But even if the can had a pull tab I'd use a can opener so I could get everything out of the can.


But back on topic; despite the cheekiness in my first post, I hope Swiza finds success.

It surprises me since I dont buy much cans but when I do most are american brands like: Heinz, Green Giant, Campbell soup and so on... All of those use pull cans.
Do they use old style opening on the home market?

Store brands are often 3/4 to 1/2 the price of the big brands and they rarely have pull tabs. This allows me to buy more knives with openers to open them with!

[Syph007]

Yup i have all those brands and they are not pull tab.


Ok everyone post up your canned goods shelf pics  lol

[Mextreme]

Speaking of cans, I hate the pull tabs because they leave a rim around the can and it's frickin' impossible to scrap everything out.  But it doesn't really matter since all the cans I buy need an opener. Everyone talks about pull tabs on cans but I rarely see them. It must be a European thing. But even if the can had a pull tab I'd use a can opener so I could get everything out of the can.


But back on topic; despite the cheekiness in my first post, I hope Swiza finds success.

It surprises me since I dont buy much cans but when I do most are american brands like: Heinz, Green Giant, Campbell soup and so on... All of those use pull cans.
Do they use old style opening on the home market?

Store brands are often 3/4 to 1/2 the price of the big brands and they rarely have pull tabs. This allows me to buy more knives with openers to open them with!

You got the priorities right then 

I am ordering a red Swiza D04 right now with a can opener  so I will go out of my way to find an old style can here to test it on.

I guess I´ll have to find some Ucranian saurkraut or something to do that here.

[ulli]

SWIZA

[Etherealicer]

Going to use it for the last week of the OBC

[Mextreme]

Going to use it for the last week of the OBC

That was fast!!!
Any first impressions?

[dks]

Going to use it for the last week of the OBC

Any first impressions??

[Mextreme]

Yup i have all those brands and they are not pull tab.


Ok everyone post up your canned goods shelf pics  lol

I understand .That is strange. They use different styles then because here all US brands are pull tab here
Just was doing some grocery shopping, and double checked all 

[Syph007]

Victorinox has patented the color red with a multi tool pocket knife or something like that, so does that mean they wont have red ones?

[Grathr]

Going to use it for the last week of the OBC

That was fast!!!
Any first impressions?

+1


Sent from a device made from star dust using tapatalk

[Grathr]

Yup i have all those brands and they are not pull tab.


Ok everyone post up your canned goods shelf pics  lol

I understand .That is strange. They use different styles then because here all US brands are pull tab here
Just was doing some grocery shopping, and double checked all 

Just open it from the underside with the canopener 


Sent from a device made from star dust using tapatalk

[Etherealicer]

First impressions are up

Victorinox has patented the color red with a multi tool pocket knife or something like that, so does that mean they wont have red ones?

It's available in white/black/blue AND red... for me it has to proof first to be worthy of being red though, so I went for blue

[Mextreme]

http://www.rts.ch/play/tv/19h30/video/ju-la-marque-swiza-presente-un-nouveau-couteau-suisse?id=7189647#t=72

[Fattsgalore]

http://www.rts.ch/play/tv/19h30/video/ju-la-marque-swiza-presente-un-nouveau-couteau-suisse?id=7189647#t=72

I understood "Victorinox" and "refused to comment".

Maybe you could give me the gist of it?

[Mextreme]

http://www.rts.ch/play/tv/19h30/video/ju-la-marque-swiza-presente-un-nouveau-couteau-suisse?id=7189647#t=72

I understood "Victorinox" and "refused to comment".

Maybe you could give me the gist of it?

My Idea was to let it hang here until some French Guy show up...but for my limited understanding the knife is beeing produced only two km from the old Wenger factory and the CEO is the former, until 2013, manager of Wenger operations. Victorinox has made some legal appeal if I understood it correct but you can take that with a few pounds of salt. My French is mostly guess work.
I think they talked about a capacity of 3 Milllon knives a year but that sounds unreal seeing the small, almost garage plant but it was impressive they seem to do everything in house. They even had their own 2 component injection moulding machine. I don't even think Victorinox makes their own injection moulding.

Lets wait for someone who really understands it and puts my "translation" to shame.

[firiki]

http://www.rts.ch/play/tv/19h30/video/ju-la-marque-swiza-presente-un-nouveau-couteau-suisse?id=7189647#t=72

I understood "Victorinox" and "refused to comment".

Maybe you could give me the gist of it?

Nothing important, I think. Brief description of the news and context. Victorinox refused to comment their former employee's (P. Hug) actions, many former Wenger staff have joined the new company, they hope to sell hundreds of thousands of knives in the next 3-5 years.

On a personal note, I think "Swiza" kind of sounds like starting to say "Swiss Army Knife" with an accent.

Edit: Adding that Swizas are made in Delemont, near the ex-Wenger factory.

[sawman]

When they can match the tools on my Swisschamp, then we'll see about buying one. They have a lot of catching up to do. 

[twiliter]

When they can match the tools on my Swisschamp, then we'll see about buying one. They have a lot of catching up to do. 

I can't see it Saw, the real SC's aren't even what they used to be, I read somewhere here that they aren't even hand made anymore. 

But here's hoping! 

[sawman]

When they can match the tools on my Swisschamp, then we'll see about buying one. They have a lot of catching up to do. 

I can't see it Saw, the real SC's aren't even what they used to be, I read somewhere here that they aren't even hand made anymore. 

But here's hoping! 

The SC is still awesome

[PTRSAK]

Someone needs to buy a couple of these as mod-fodder. I'd be interested to see the internal layout of pins, springs, tang shapes etc. Will these mix and match in any way with Vic parts? Or can we wedge scissors into a Swiza?
That locking blade and awl would be pretty cool in some other knives.  Like a Climber or Super Tinker.

[SAK Guy]

Like I said, I won't be buying one. Don't like the color, the style/look, the holes in the blades (like lots of mall ninja stuff) and the fact that they can't stand on their own merits...they have to sell themselves as improved/reinvented against the time proven world standard of excellence in knives. When Swiza's new knife has ascended Everest, explored the Antarctic, trekked the Amazon or flown into Space, then catch phrases like "a legend reborn" won't seem like unbelievable hubris. They need to earn their street creds before tugging on Superman's cape. My opinion, of course. 

Hey, what did you expect from.....

SAK Guy. 

[sawman]

Like I said, I won't be buying one. Don't like the color, the style/look, the holes in the blades (like lots of mall ninja stuff) and the fact that they can't stand on their own merits...they have to sell themselves as improved/reinvented against the time proven world standard of excellence in knives. When Swiza's new knife has ascended Everest, explored the Antarctic, trekked the Amazon or flown into Space, then catch phrases like "a legend reborn" won't seem like unbelievable hubris. They need to earn their street creds before tugging on Superman's cape. My opinion, of course. 

Hey, what did you expect from.....

SAK Guy. 

You broke that down pretty well SG

[SAK Guy]

Like I said, I won't be buying one. Don't like the color, the style/look, the holes in the blades (like lots of mall ninja stuff) and the fact that they can't stand on their own merits...they have to sell themselves as improved/reinvented against the time proven world standard of excellence in knives. When Swiza's new knife has ascended Everest, explored the Antarctic, trekked the Amazon or flown into Space, then catch phrases like "a legend reborn" won't seem like unbelievable hubris. They need to earn their street creds before tugging on Superman's cape. My opinion, of course. 

Hey, what did you expect from.....

SAK Guy. 

You broke that down pretty well SG

Thanks SAW!

[Monrogue]

These won't be able to dethrone my MechaRogue

Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk

[SAK Guy]

These won't be able to dethrone my MechaRogue

Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk

 

[Fattsgalore]

@Mextreme&firiki,
Thank you.

I'm actually hoping this new company is successful. They got marketing down something Vic doesn't seem to focus on. Should they though???

I personally would like Victorinox to revitalize their knives appearance. I think Vic's tool designs are some of the best in the business; kind of why they are so imitated, but ascetically I wish the exterior were a little more appealing. Just nothing like the Tomo though. For the love of all that is holy nothing like the Tomo.

Who am I kidding give me more translucent scale options for the 91's and I'd be all over them like white on rice. 

[gregpost]

 They look modern, can't wait to try one.

[Etherealicer]

Someone needs to buy a couple of these as mod-fodder. I'd be interested to see the internal layout of pins, springs, tang shapes etc. Will these mix and match in any way with Vic parts? Or can we wedge scissors into a Swiza?
That locking blade and awl would be pretty cool in some other knives.  Like a Climber or Super Tinker.

I doubt they will be compatible, the Swiza is much more curved

[crackout]

I like the design. The locking blade will be unlocked by pressing the cross on the scale (works from both sides).
Too bad they don't feature a toothpick.
If they throw in scissors (non-serrated) at some point, I'll grab one.

[Etherealicer]

Like I said, I won't be buying one. Don't like the color, the style/look, the holes in the blades (like lots of mall ninja stuff) and the fact that they can't stand on their own merits...they have to sell themselves as improved/reinvented against the time proven world standard of excellence in knives. When Swiza's new knife has ascended Everest, explored the Antarctic, trekked the Amazon or flown into Space, then catch phrases like "a legend reborn" won't seem like unbelievable hubris. They need to earn their street creds before tugging on Superman's cape. My opinion, of course. 

Hey, what did you expect from.....

SAK Guy. 

That's why I bought one in blue... I don't think it deserves to be red with white cross

Also, they haven't gotten to the difficult part, like making great scissors! They make a very basic folding knife with some extras. There are many manufacturers that do that. They are just milking the Swiss Army Knife reputation without having ever contributed to it. Like the "Alpine Club Switzerland" that is neither Swiss nor an alpine club but just a brand trying to profit from the name of the "Swiss Alpine Club".