Can't find a black Zermatt XL w/steel?

[MadPlumbarian]

Just like the subject says, I can't find them new anywhere, I've got to get one before March to work on for the little guys new Swiss champion plus I got stashed. He's going to want black, and I kinda want the steel to attach to mine, I'm going to do the same by ripping the stiching out and replacing it with red, but I just can't find them anywhere, they all seem to be sold out, I can find the ones without the steel, so if it comes down to it I guess I'll just go with that one, but I was just wondering if anyone knows of anywhere that is selling the XL black w/steel? I think the model # is 30213?
JR

[SAK Guy]

The number on my box is 33213 if that helps. 

If you're ripping out the stitching anyway, as a last resort, why not buy a brown one and dye it black?

[MadPlumbarian]

The number on my box is 33213 if that helps. 

If you're ripping out the stitching anyway, as a last resort, why not buy a brown one and dye it black?

Oops, I was close, but no.. Yeah I could dye it, heck I even have a brown one like new, I just don't know how it would turn out? Besides the dye I have is a homemade vinegar, and it stinks, so I would have to order that other stuff, kinda sucks cause I was just at Wally World a couple hours ago.. I got a little time to see if anything comes up, so we'll see.. Thanks,
JR

[SAK Guy]

Good luck bud!!! 

[SteveC]

Good luck bud!!! 

+1, I'll keep my eye out for one.

[MadPlumbarian]

Good luck bud!!! 

+1, I'll keep my eye out for one.

Thanks x2,,
JR

[GigaHz]

What size is this? This is a Swisschamp.

[MadPlumbarian]

What size is this? This is a Swisschamp.

That's gotta be a XL, cause a champion+ is 28, and the swisschamp is 33mm wide..
JR

[strmliner]

Pretty interesting...I couldn't find your black XL with the sharpener in any of the 5-6 online places I would typically buy from too.  Usually, finding the black Zermatt's is easier than the brown, which I prefer.

Good luck...we'll keep an eye out for these...   

[MadPlumbarian]

Pretty interesting...I couldn't find your black XL with the sharpener in any of the 5-6 online places I would typically buy from too.  Usually, finding the black Zermatt's is easier than the brown, which I prefer.

Good luck...we'll keep an eye out for these...   

Thanks!
JR

[TSabatine]

I've been trying to find one for years...


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[TSabatine]

And I have to double check the model number, but I'm pretty sure the brown one I have fits the Swiss champ and is the L not the XL, it's snug, and doesn't come out easily without a lanyard to tug on, but it fits


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[Spork, Lord of Lime Jello!]

Is it possible that Zermatt sheaths are discontinued?....I don't see them on the factory sites. I recently bought a brown XL, but was looking for a black as well.

[MadPlumbarian]

And I have to double check the model number, but I'm pretty sure the brown one I have fits the Swiss champ and is the L not the XL, it's snug, and doesn't come out easily without a lanyard to tug on, but it fits


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You know what, I ordered a large black w/o the steel a while back for my custom sak(the Pharmber) but I think I ended up getting an Xl w/o the steel by mistake, cause it looked identical to my other, and because it bounced around,, when I customized it, I lined it with felt to stop it from bouncing around.. I'm going to have to check that out, cause it's brand new, all I would have to do is pull the felt out and it's his.. Then order a large cause if you say a champion plus fits a large, just tight, it should fit mine better hmm.. Thanks TS, for thinking about getting a large..
JR
What do you think, the brown is suppose to be an xl, and the black a large, they look the same no?

[MadPlumbarian]

Is it possible that Zermatt sheaths are discontinued?....I don't see them on the factory sites. I recently bought a brown XL, but was looking for a black as well.

I think so, I even wrote victorinox seeing if they have any info, but I won't get a reply till maybe the end of this week..
JR

[Spork, Lord of Lime Jello!]

I discovered that a medium sheath will hold my Brunner Feuerschlag....so that triggered a Zermattt buying spree for other knives 

[MadPlumbarian]

Ok, I found a bunch of black large w/steel's, I just don't know. I'm going to have to do a little more digging, cause the measurements for a large they say are 1-1/8" X 7/8" (inside) and for a xl, 1-1/4 X 1-1/4" (inside) and both give a bunch of modles they will fit. I know the medium the scales go front to back, but I would guess the large and xl the scales would go side to side, no? You would think something like this would be easy..
JR

[SAK Guy]

I guess I should pick up a couple this month.

[Spork, Lord of Lime Jello!]

I had the Champion plus in the brown XL sheath on the right...the other two are large (33208/33209). the only difference I see between the Large and XL is the XL is deeper front to back...side to side it seems like the same width.

[MadPlumbarian]

I had the Champion plus in the brown XL sheath on the right...the other two are large (33208/33209). the only difference I see between the Large and XL is the XL is deeper front to back...side to side it seems like the same width.

Ok, so that black one is a large, and you have the sak with the scales side to side, what sak is that? Same with the one in the middle, that's also a large, and you can carry with the scales side to side?
JR

[Spork, Lord of Lime Jello!]

I had the Champion plus in the brown XL sheath on the right...the other two are large (33208/33209). the only difference I see between the Large and XL is the XL is deeper front to back...side to side it seems like the same width.

Ok, so that black one is a large, and you have the sak with the scales side to side, what sak is that? Same with the one in the middle, that's also a large, and you can carry with the scales side to side?
JR

That's a Champion Plus in the black Large sheath, the middle one is a brown Large...fits both fine

[Spork, Lord of Lime Jello!]

The only way I can tell in photos between the sizes of sheaths is how far down the embossing goes...you can see the XL brown has a shorter panel and a greater slope at the bottom.

[MadPlumbarian]

I guess I'm just going to have to try it out and get a large, the two on the outside look the same, and the one in the middle kinda looks not as deep to me? But I do see what your talking about..
JR

[MadPlumbarian]

Alright, I've pulled out all the strings, well sheaths.. Here's what I've come up with, the first three in this pic are xl, and by age too, the one on the left being the oldest, how old? Err, at lest 26yrs, but prob way more, the next 24yrs, then the rest only 4 and newer. The two on the right are suppose to be only large. Now the three on the right pretty much look the same with those panels are pretty much the same length? And the two on the left longer but that could be because there much older? On to the next pics..

Here's where I see the big diff, the one on the left is the xl, and the large on the right. From side to side they look the same, but from front to back a little deeper? As you can see I put two champion+ in and they both fit, both kinda snug, but there like brand new and need to be broken in, yet in the large I also have those layers of thick felt, so maybe without it the blade won't press on the front as much as it did, cause you can see how the front is a little crooked,, So I think I should be able to just get a large and it should be fine?
JR
The other thing is the xl is tight because of that tapper at the bottom, needs a break in, the large doesn't have that, it's more square, and isn't tight do to that, only really because of the sides with that felt?

[MadPlumbarian]

Here's another pic, as you can see at the bottom of the sheath the large(front) is more square, and the xl(back, one in the middle in the other post) is on a angle, and the front also is out further then the large at the top, So with the bottoms being the way it is, it kinda makes it tight having to pull the strap over to close it, but the top loose, then on the large I think it's only really tight from that felt, cause it's easy to close it..
JR

[SteveC]

The nice thing about leather is that it is pretty easy to stretch if it's a little tight. I've done it on a few leatherman sheaths. I even stretched out an original PST sheath to fit my Rebar.

[MadPlumbarian]

The nice thing about leather is that it is pretty easy to stretch if it's a little tight. I've done it on a few leatherman sheaths. I even stretched out an original PST sheath to fit my Rebar.

So true!
JR