SAK / Swisstool dating and identification resources

[UscgSal]

    
Someone please look into Andrew's question ??

[Gio_Luso]

The link works fine for me, it refers to the page (4shared) to download the document. No problem.
https://www.4shared.com/office/_zjL1d57fa/Victorinox_-_FAB.html

Can someone try this link?

[zoidberg]

The link works fine for me, it refers to the page (4shared) to download the document. No problem.
https://www.4shared.com/office/_zjL1d57fa/Victorinox_-_FAB.html

Can someone try this link?

Both links working for me.   

[Huntsman]

Hi all,

Regarding the Victorinox SAK Chronology/Evolution Document
I tried the link from the first screen and my company's security blockers kicked in
I also could not get the link above to work.

Soooo.....

Fortunately, I had a copy of the document on my PC, so uploaded it to SAKWiki - Then updated the link on the first page to SAKWiki 
Much better place for it - as now the doc is in our Wiki, we should not loose it again via some dodgy internet link

Here's the link too for reference:
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3735&display=true

EDIT PS. Did the same for the "Everything you need to know.............' doc

[UscgSal]

 

[Gio_Luso]

Both links working for me.   

[Huntsman]

Hey Team

The amazing SAAMs pictorial tools evolution website that was the starting point for so many of us on tool evolution - seems to have disappeared    
This is the link from the first page of this thread
http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php

Anybody know why?  What happened or whether it is accessible elsewhere?   

Seems like a couple of the other external links have gone too 

[UscgSal]

Huntsman- I'm getting the can't be reached messages for the link above too.

[Antti Lammi]

Wayback Machine could help but i have no idea how that works. Its great shame that many of these sites have disappeared over time without warnings.


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[IMR4198]

     I found the page on archive.org wayback machine.  I downloaded the webpage from april 4, 2023.  Just plug your web address into the search box and you will get a list of months.  Best wishes.  G
 
 

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[UscgSal]

 

[Antti Lammi]

     I found the page on archive.org wayback machine.  I downloaded the webpage from april 4, 2023.  Just plug your web address into the search box and you will get a list of months.  Best wishes.  G
 
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Did you download all pages?


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[IMR4198]

Hi Antti,
      I don't know how many pages there are actually.  Best wishes.  G
 
     

[Antti Lammi]

There is bit more if click those links on left side, i downloaded those 91mm tool evolution, 108mm, SwissChamp, monster 58m and swisscard pages


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[IMR4198]

    Good job, Antti.  Best wishes.  G
   

[Antti Lammi]

    Yes there are other links.  The main page downloads and saves fine.  If you download for example, the 108 link it will be saved as a .php file.  My computer won't open that file type.  I don't really care enough to find something that will open that.  Still interesting.  Best wishes.  G
 

I saved all as pdf, i dowloaded those with my phone.


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[UscgSal]

  

[iluvyoga1]

Afternoon!  Is anyone able to provide resources to evaluate potential value of my Victorinox Switzerland Stainless Rostfrei Red SWK?  Appreciate any guidance.

[Huntsman]

Hello 

Welcome to MT.o

What is an SWK?
And what model is you knife? ie What tools does it have?
SAKWiki can help you find the model if you don't know

Checking a knife of same model and age on ebay is usually a good way to go
You can also check recently sold.

[UscgSal]

Thanks for the info links !

[farshid]

I recently purchased this Black Victorinox Swiss Champ with Original Victorinox Sheath & Chain, I noticed it doesn't have the hook and also doesn't have the pin hole on the scales,
Is this early Swiss Champ? I actually sometimes use hook and the pin and I miss it, I guess I can replace the scales with one who has pin hole but I really love these black scales (although it has some advertisement on other side)
 

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on other hand I love the way it's glasses screwdriver can be mounted on the corkscrew! (I have purchased custom mini screwdriver for my huntsman and spartan but they can't be mounted like this!) also I like the original Sheath & Chain!

[Huntsman]

You have not shown us the main tools and I cannot see how many layers there are?   
Does it have the pliers and the mag glass layer?     Anyway I assume it's an SC!
You might want to check the pliers page in SAKWiki, or the dating spreadsheet via the link in the first page of this thread, to check out which version of the pliers you have

If there is no hook it is certainly pre-1991 - And the corkscrew changed that year too
SO I guess the later ones do not hold the mini SD like that

You should be able to get new 'plus scales' in black with a pin hole that will fit

It's a lovely old model anyway - Great find - Definitely a keeper

[farshid]

You have not shown us the main tools and I cannot see how many layers there are?   
Does it have the pliers and the mag glass layer?     Anyway I assume it's a SC!
You might want to check the pliers page in SAKWiki, or the dating spreadsheet via the link in the first page of this thread, to check out which version of the pliers you have

If there is no hook it is certainly pre-1991 - And the corkscrew changed that year too
SO I guess the later ones do not hold the mini SD like that

You should be able to get new 'plus scales' in black with a pin hole that will fit

It's a lovely old model anyway - Great find - Definitely a keeper

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Oh sorry here is the picture of main tools. and yes there are pliers and the mag glass layer, so it is pre 1991! amazing this multitool  has been kept like  brand new! No I am not so sure to use it as my EDC 
what do you mean by SC?  so do I have a Victorinox Swiss Champ?

I wonder why they changed the mini SD like that! when I compared the Old Mini SD to the New one that I purchased, I noticed the old one is round while the new one is hexagonal when viewed from the top

another Question, how easy it is to change the Scales? I saw YouTube Video that a Guy put the SAK in how water and took the scales off with a small screwdriver and put the new scales with with between vice and leather to protect the SAK no glue used. but I don't have a vice.

[Huntsman]

Apologies pls excuse my abbreviation SC = SwissChamp

Yes - This is one of the very original SwissChamps from 85 or 86
We know his as you have the original version of the pliers 

It is very easy to change the scales - Also you don't have to have a vice - Can just press down hard on a smooth work surface
Instructions on how to do this in the mod section of this forum - Or YT as you have seen

[farshid]

Apologies pls excuse my abbreviation SC = SwissChamp

Yes - This is one of the very original SwissChamps from 85 or 86
We know his as you have the original version of the pliers 

It is very easy to change the scales - Also you don't have to have a vice - Can just press down hard on a smooth work surface
Instructions on how to do this in the mod section of this forum - Or YT as you have seen

WOW Thank you so much, I didn't expect this to be that old in this condition, before i checked the leather sheath and it is made for this SC (I am learning the abbreviation  ), I own two Victorinox MT and their sheath doesn't have serial number and I had a feeling this should be old version.

is this SC rare & valuable?  if so I don't want to use it as my EDC. and I don't want to change the original scales.

[Huntsman]

Not so rare and not so valuable - As of course thousands of these will have been made.

However certainly very collectible - As it is a first gen SC - And those gen 1 pliers are not so common
The other thing you have - is that your SC is in really, really excellent condition - especially for something that is nearly 40 yrs old
And collectors will pay for these two aspects

I am with you on these:
- I would not be using this as an EDC - as it is pretty special
- I also would not change the scales - As they are part of the provenance of this particular knife and add to its character. For me at least, it is great to keep things original (.....even if you are not Victor!!).

PS. Forum usage suggestion:
No need to quote a previous post - Especially when your post immediately follows the original - This just clogs up the thread! ..... And even if it does not an .... @Hunstman .... or such like is usually sufficient!

[farshid]

Thank you for clarifying and helping me.

I am not Victor but he seems like a great guy to order these  SC! And I appreciate him

I think it's going to collect dust in my drawer as i don't want to scratch it. But I am am not going to modify it and will keep it original.

I didn't intend to sell it but maybe if there's a fan or collector I trade it with a SAK that i can use for EDC or in general

[Barry Rowland]

From a long time SC fan, you found a beautiful example!  Congratulations and thank you for sharing this with us!

[Gio_Luso]

Moderator, what do you think about this post from the Spanish forum?
https://armasblancas.mforos.com/933172/13017243-victorinox-como-identificar-act-7-05-2024/