Been doing some work in the Wiki

[Huntsman]

Hi CeHo,

Thanks for this - However, I'll need a little more information if possible please, if we are to put this in the Wiki
eg Which 3 stores? - It currently says it was sold in the factory store; I thought it had been available online? - Xfile - How did you get yours?
Also - The source of the information eg.. 'According to a Victorinox contact' or 'In a letter sent to dealers.....'

We do not have strict rules on cross referencing like Wikipedia - However it would be great if the information is verifiable - eg in a catalogue or such like

Thanks

[CeHo]

The stores are: Victorinox factory store in Ibach, Victorinox Outlet Roermond and Victorinox Outlet Berlin. I talked to an employee from the Outletstore in Berlin. I asked him about the history of the knife. He called it „Messer ohne Name“ (knife without a name).

[Huntsman]

That's more like it!         Perfect!    - Thanks CeHo   

I have updated the page - I credited MTo in the page and you in the History comments         

[CeHo]

Great 

Many thanks

[Thales of Miletus]

Is sakwiki down for maintenance right now? I'm getting an error message trying to load the page.

[enki_ck]

Works fine for me

[Huntsman]

I do find from time to time it is n/a - Maybe once or twice a week - It usually comes back an hour or so later.
So I assume this is just a blip in the network/system somewhere   

[Huntsman]

Hey Whoey

Thanks for digging out this old SOSAK archive link for the RAF Hunter .... ages ago - Taken me a while to update this one!

https://web.archive.org/web/20111204101213/http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=330&Itemid=35

I have updated the link in the 111mm Hunter page and it seems to work

Will it stay working over time given it is an archive ?
Anyway great to get it fixed

Thanks again

[Zanza]

@ Huntsman: I don't know if it's working like this when we see some missing/imprecisions/whatever in the wiki ? Posting here is the right way ?

Anyway, in the Wenger Forester page, it's missing the indication of early version, with small clip point blade instead of the common nail file

https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester

[NeleDo]

Farmer X page? 

[Huntsman]

@ Huntsman: I don't know if it's working like this when we see some missing/imprecisions/whatever in the wiki ? Posting here is the right way ?
Anyway, in the Wenger Forester page, it's missing the indication of early version, with small clip point blade instead of the common nail file

 That's absolutely the right way Zanza - Thank you     - It's updated (with a thanks to you in the History!!)   

Lovely new Swiss Spirit page Nick - Thanks ... and for all the piccies and related updates !!  
That Explorer is lovely ..... Will be interesting to see if this series continues.

And thanks for all the other 'regular' editorial updates/additions/corrections! 

[Echotech]

I really love the fact we can contribute to the wiki, a place I spend much time, thanks for all the hard work that goes into it.

I’ve noticed on the cadet page, which has a very detailed history  and page for cadet five colors series from 2012

https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Cadet 

https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+Cadet+5+Colors+Series

that there’s no mention of the cognac cadet (the cadet that shouldn’t exist) according to swissknives.info (link with English translation below)

https://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://swissknives.info/cognac-cadet/&prev=search&pto=aue

This was the short run (approx 1000 pieces) that should’ve been orange but came out in what has been designated cognac and eventually sold off in 2014 and 2015 (model number 0.2600.L1128)

I was recently (so recently it’s not arrived yet!) able to pick one of these up    looking forward to adding it to the collection 

While I’m on cadets, the 2020 LE aqua blue colour option hasn’t been added yet.

One more possible contribution I could make, on the cadet II page

https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+Cadet+II

The only picture has the clip point pen blade version, if a picture with the drop point version is wanted, I’d be honoured to supply one of mine which was bought as “old new stock” and pretty minty

Thanks again for all the work and time spent it really is appreciated

 

[Huntsman]

Hey ET

Thank you for the very kind words - It really is appreciated - As it is quite a lot of work - Which surprisingly seems never ending.....
There are always new versions, variations coming out, missing series, LEs etc and updates and corrections to make.
Nick4 Has been a great help in recent years on this - And deserves a special call out!

Thanks also for the observations on the Cadets - Here is what I have done:
Re the Five Colours: I have taken all the detail out of the regular Cadet page - and all the detail is now in the Five colour page - Most of which was there already - so duplicated which was not good.
I have also reformatted the Five Colour page to make it more user-friendly (I had never seen that page before!!) 
Re the 20xx Cadet LEs - I have not added the 2020 colour          - And have taken away all the other 20xx details   
Hopefully this is OK - As they are already in the 20xx Alox page - And there is  a link to that page from the Cadet page
That way we only have one page to update each year !!        

Re the Cadet II - A drop point version photo of the more recent old Cadet would be fab - I will send you a PM with an email address to send it to



Now I was going to save this until my editor's Major Update No. 5 (see earlier posts) - However seeing as we are on Cadets and Cadet IIs - I will mention it now.
LeaF and I had a chat and we were thinking of merging the Cadet and Cadet II pages
Why ?      
Well for starters the Cadet II came before the Cadet which is highly confusing    and really they are both Cadets and the current Cadet is just an evolution of the original Cadet!

We would merge all the Cadet II info into the Cadet page and explain a little more about the evolution (most of which is there already) - So we would just have one page that covered the Cadet.
Of course we would still explain the Cadet I and Cadet II etymology
I (we) think it would be in improvement and clearer for our users

What do you think ET and SAK Knights ?   

[Echotech]

Thanks very much Huntsman can only imagine the work, I’ve looked after sites before but nothing with the complexity of the Wiki

Definitely didn’t expect to see the update same day as mentioned, that’s service 

All the changes you’ve done and have suggested make perfect sense to me and think a really good plan, it will definitely make the lineage clearer

I’ll be genuinely honoured to have a picture of one of my SAK’s on there and very pleased to be able to contribute

Also I shall henceforth be known as ET  



ET


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[Zanza]

That's absolutely the right way Zanza - Thank you     - It's updated (with a thanks to you in the History!!)   

Impressive work Huntsman, keep it up   
(and I'm more than happy to have put such a small helpful brick in the wiki)

Oh and BTW, I quote here some thing I've posted elsewhere that you maybe missed... 

@ Huntsman: here are pics of the Swiss Identity Huntsman for the wiki as you requested 

BTW I can't figure how to create a user in the wiki, it asks for admin's autorisation or something


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[Nick4]

Lovely new Swiss Spirit page Nick - Thanks ... and for all the piccies and related updates !!  

My pleasure. 
But you do a lot more work. 

[Nick4]

Unfortunately, for some strange reason, I can't add images to the SAKWiki catalog gallery. 

So I'll just leave it here: a page from the Victorinox 1970s (?) catalog, the Garden Knives line.

[enki_ck]

Cause catalog galleries aren't image galleries, they are file galleries needed to store uploaded pdf catalogs and similar files. And to prevent uploads of unwanted content, maleware and such, (yes, we had that before) access to the file galleries is limited to admins only.

Currently still active admins are Huntsman, Reinier and yours truly so if you need something uploaded there, let us know.

Is this a catalog page you have or have you downloaded it? Do you have a scanner so we get a better representation of the page than the one taken with a camera?

Also, I'll have to check when I get to my desktop, but I think we might have that one in the wiki already.

[Nick4]

enki_ck, thank you for the explanation!

Is this a catalog page you have or have you downloaded it? Do you have a scanner so we get a better representation of the page than the one taken with a camera?

Unfortunately, now I have this poor quality photo only. But I will try to get the whole catalog.

[Nick4]

Farmer X page? 

Done 

[Reinier]

Good job Nick!

[Nick4]

Good job Nick!

Thank you, Reinier! But it was bad job (Huntsman knows ).

[Reinier]

Three layers instead of four? Or did you make a huge mistake?

[Nick4]

Three layers instead of four?

Yep. Shame on me! Where were my eyes?

Or did you make a huge mistake?

Oh, that's for sure!   

[NeleDo]

Done 

Looks great! 

[Nick4]

Looks great! 

Thanks! 

[Nick4]

Dear Knights,

Just created Delémont Evolution S54 and Delémont Evolution S557 pages.
Could someone with native English check them for possible mistakes, please? 

BTW, it's seems to me, there is a wrong identifier for the Delémont Evolution S557 model in the beautiful poster by Sir NeleDo (and Evolution Grip models are missing).   

[NeleDo]

Dear Knights,

Just created Delémont Evolution S54 and Delémont Evolution S557 pages.
Could someone with native English check them for possible mistakes, please? 

BTW, it's seems to me, there is a wrong identifier for the Delémont Evolution S557 model in the beautiful poster by Sir NeleDo (and Evolution Grip models are missing).   

You're right about the identifier for Evo S557 (it should end in "SE"), I accidentally used EvoWood S557's twice  I'll correct it as fast as possible...
As for Evolution Grip models, they are not "missing"... They are excluded as I used only basic models (not scales variations except for wood) in almost all of my posters. 

[NeleDo]

Delemont 85mm poster with corrected Evolution S557 identifier

[Reinier]

HI all,

I was checking out the 74mm pages on the Wiki and I noticed that the 75mm models are listed below the 74mm SAKs. How about we move them to a dedicated 75mm page? I know it's basically a discontinued product line but still. They have noting in common with the double sided/floating spring frame (Executive, Ambassador, etc.). This has probably been discussed before

Also, on the Accountant page, none of the models with scissors are mentioned. Should they be, being discontinued decades ago?

The old Accountant-style SAKs in 84mmm are not mentioned on the 84mm page. Should we add them?

I would like to see more old identifiers (like 656 aCr+ for a cellidor "Executive" with shield & cross and T&T) mentioned on the pages of the modern equivalent models. What do you think?