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What Traditional Knife are you toting today? 397513

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #90 on: September 23, 2016, 11:04:22 AM »
Toting the Mini trapper today  :tu:


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Awesome pic and knife Steve!!!

Have the 175 with me today!
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:like: Lovely knife there mate.

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« Reply #91 on: September 23, 2016, 11:39:12 AM »
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« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2016, 12:18:00 PM »
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2016, 02:35:40 PM »
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2016, 03:43:02 PM »
Queen stag bone barlow.
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2016, 04:55:43 PM »
Case penknife waiting with me at the barber. :)


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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2016, 06:27:10 PM »
Nice looking copperhead,  :tu: Post back how you like it, the more I use mine the more I like it.
Mine's in my pocket again today.

My initial impressions are that, like any Copperhead, I love the looks and feel of it in the hand.  I'm really drawn toward canoes and copperheads these days due to how comfortable they are to handle.  It is a bit shorter than I like, unfortunately, at 3 5/16".  I could stand to have a little more room on the frame--maybe another 1/8" or so, but it's a comfortable size for EDC.  I'll report back again after I've had a chance to sharpen it and use it a bit.

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2016, 06:40:15 PM »
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2016, 09:58:56 PM »
Nice looking copperhead,  :tu: Post back how you like it, the more I use mine the more I like it.
Mine's in my pocket again today.

My initial impressions are that, like any Copperhead, I love the looks and feel of it in the hand.  I'm really drawn toward canoes and copperheads these days due to how comfortable they are to handle.  It is a bit shorter than I like, unfortunately, at 3 5/16".  I could stand to have a little more room on the frame--maybe another 1/8" or so, but it's a comfortable size for EDC.  I'll report back again after I've had a chance to sharpen it and use it a bit.


It's amazing how much difference an 1/8” can make.

I've noticed these days I tend to like em short and fat. More height from edge to spine and between 3 ½ and 3 ¾.

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2016, 10:01:05 PM »
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2016, 11:18:35 PM »
Beautiful carries guys!!!  Love that Buck Steve!!!!
 
A slim Bubinga Opie today.

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2016, 11:20:18 PM »
Nice one Robert   :like:
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2016, 11:44:40 PM »
Nice looking copperhead,  :tu: Post back how you like it, the more I use mine the more I like it.
Mine's in my pocket again today.

My initial impressions are that, like any Copperhead, I love the looks and feel of it in the hand.  I'm really drawn toward canoes and copperheads these days due to how comfortable they are to handle.  It is a bit shorter than I like, unfortunately, at 3 5/16".  I could stand to have a little more room on the frame--maybe another 1/8" or so, but it's a comfortable size for EDC.  I'll report back again after I've had a chance to sharpen it and use it a bit.


It's amazing how much difference an 1/8” can make.

I've noticed these days I tend to like em short and fat. More height from edge to spine and between 3 ½ and 3 ¾.

It is, isn't it?  I've always felt like the #66 GEC is the perfect size for my EDC, and it's exactly 1/8" longer than this KC copperhead.  The first time I held the copperhead, that 1/8" was immediately obvious.  It just feels "crowded".  3 1/2" to 3 3/4" is about the range I prefer also, but I'm good up to 3 7/8" with some patterns such as the Case Copperhead and Sowbelly.

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #103 on: September 24, 2016, 02:33:23 AM »
Nice one Robert   :like:

Thank you Steve!!!  :salute:

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #104 on: September 24, 2016, 02:35:27 AM »
Nice looking copperhead,  :tu: Post back how you like it, the more I use mine the more I like it.
Mine's in my pocket again today.

My initial impressions are that, like any Copperhead, I love the looks and feel of it in the hand.  I'm really drawn toward canoes and copperheads these days due to how comfortable they are to handle.  It is a bit shorter than I like, unfortunately, at 3 5/16".  I could stand to have a little more room on the frame--maybe another 1/8" or so, but it's a comfortable size for EDC.  I'll report back again after I've had a chance to sharpen it and use it a bit.


It's amazing how much difference an 1/8” can make.

I've noticed these days I tend to like em short and fat. More height from edge to spine and between 3 ½ and 3 ¾.

It is, isn't it?  I've always felt like the #66 GEC is the perfect size for my EDC, and it's exactly 1/8" longer than this KC copperhead.  The first time I held the copperhead, that 1/8" was immediately obvious.  It just feels "crowded".  3 1/2" to 3 3/4" is about the range I prefer also, but I'm good up to 3 7/8" with some patterns such as the Case Copperhead and Sowbelly.
The #66 is a good length.
It's kind of strange I have a Fallkniven PC that's 4” and I never notice it's in my pocket but I sometimes I'll notice the 4' queen stockman.
I've carried the 4' stockmans way longer than any other pattern, my tastes have changed a bit in the last 15 years.


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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #105 on: September 24, 2016, 02:38:37 AM »
I'm glad these aren't out at the moment.  :dd:
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #106 on: September 24, 2016, 03:18:09 AM »
I'm glad these aren't out at the moment.  :dd:

Dang, that's pretty!

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #107 on: September 24, 2016, 05:04:47 PM »
Toting a Stainless Opie No. 8 along with my SAKs today.


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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #108 on: September 24, 2016, 05:26:59 PM »
I'm glad these aren't out at the moment.  :dd:

Dang, that's pretty!

Indeed!!  :tu:

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« Reply #109 on: September 24, 2016, 08:45:18 PM »
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #110 on: September 24, 2016, 08:48:54 PM »
Toting a Stainless Opie No. 8 along with my SAKs today.

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Nice!
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« Reply #111 on: September 24, 2016, 09:52:11 PM »

Hayn' Helper again.
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #112 on: September 24, 2016, 11:12:02 PM »
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #113 on: September 25, 2016, 12:07:05 AM »
Still agonizing with terminology. A knife selling site lists Case as "traditional"  and Opinel &  Svord (and similars I guess) as "primitive".

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #114 on: September 25, 2016, 03:36:38 AM »
Still agonizing with terminology. A knife selling site lists Case as "traditional"  and Opinel &  Svord (and similars I guess) as "primitive".

I've found that on an international forum it helps to not to over think it.

The problem with the term traditional is there is no official definition of a traditional knife. It will vary from forum to forum and continent to continent. To muddy the waters even more this is an international forum so what might be considered traditional in Europe may not be considered traditional in the U.S. Which explains why Opinel is considered traditional by many here. Before the internet I had never heard of a Opinel.

If this was a U.S. Based site then by the strictest definition of the term, a traditional would have pinned construction. With the blade pivot pinned to a bolster & handles pinned to the liners. Like a stockman, barlow, trapper, whittlers etc. The strictest definition is not often used.

Another way to look at it is the pattern is a very large part of what defines "Traditional". Any steel can be used to make the blade. Looking at it that way an Opinel NO.3 looks just like an Opinel NO.12

Miller Bros made a Surveyor pattern with screwed on handles. Once you use a screw in the pivot it becomes a modern design. A modernized traditional maybe but still in a different class.

As a general rule a traditional is a two hand opener, no assist, thumb studs, filppers or belt clips are allowed. Liner locks like the TL-29 and lock backs like the Buck 501 are considered traditional. The designs have been around for a hundred years more or less.

The SAK Pioneer has the same tool load out as a Camillus boy scout knife. I don't believe many would consider a Swiss Champ a traditional, it's more of a tool than a knife. So SAK's tend to get their own thread. Multitool.org has a very large SAK forum so it would confuse things to see them posted as a traditional in the traditional thread as well.

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #115 on: September 25, 2016, 07:15:32 AM »
The traditional forum in Bladeforums tends to accept as traditional any knife that would have been carried by someone 40, 50 years
From their guide:
"If a regular knife user of the mid 1960's would find nothing out of the ordinary about the design, then it's traditional.

That means large Buck 110-ish lockbacks are in.

SAKs date to the late 1800's. If they are not one hand opening, they are in. (See comments on materials of construction.)

Modern locking mechanisms such as Walker liner locks, pocket clips, holes / studs to allow one hand opening are all out. (Traditional liner locks, such as the lock on a TL29, are in.) Add a clip to a stockman, and it needs to be posted elsewhere. By the same token, if it is traditional except for a clip and you remove the clip, feel free to post it here.

We tend to have some tolerance when it comes to fixed blades. But, new designs with features such as glass breakers, are not included in this forum.

We give leeway on materials of construction. So if you have a nice stockman with G10 covers, it's traditional enough for us. After all, plastics have been used on knife handles since the 1800's. Stainless steel has been used in cutlery since the 1920's, so stainless is considered traditional. And even though PM alloys are new developments, that fella in the mid-1960's would never know the difference if he were looking at the knife, so they are OK, too."

So, for Europe (and elsewhere - higonokami in Japan for example) and especially the mediterranean region, a basic friction folder, that is a folding knife with no spring to hold it open, is THE traditional knife.
This was the most basic knife and it was easy for everybody to make. This was the type of knife I remember people using as it was cheap and easily available. I can make one in 20 minutes, using an old blade.
Fixed blades were also commonly carried by many working people, especially in th countryside.

In the new world there is a lot of influence from the UK, as there were many knives being exported, slipjoins, from there to the colonies. So, what they call traditional tends to be what Sheffield makers were/are producing. Multiple blade slipjoints are a US characteristic knife.
So, just because a US seller did not see his father carry an opinel type knife it does not automatically mean that the whole world has to accept that this type of knife is not traditional. The buck 110 is considered, in the US to be a traditional knife but most Europeans will put it in the same group as a locking spyderco, sebenza atc.

Notice that the bladeforums definition ignores friction folders, being a US forum.
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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #116 on: September 25, 2016, 07:24:21 AM »
Great great knives. I especially like the hayn helper design and that babinga opinel. Geez that rough riders nice too!

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #117 on: September 25, 2016, 08:07:04 AM »

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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #118 on: September 25, 2016, 08:07:41 AM »
Great great knives. I especially like the hayn helper design and that babinga opinel. Geez that rough riders nice too!

 :salute: Thanks buddy!!

- Robert




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Re: What Traditional Knife are you toting today?
« Reply #119 on: September 25, 2016, 08:10:19 AM »
:drool:

+1!!!!  Mine should be here next week!!!!

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