Thinking old school for EDC..anybody else?

I'm Still Bison · **on:** February 02, 2007, 08:24:47 PM

Warm weather will come back..I hope.And among other things I've thought of an EDC combo that would work for my needs...and the answer for me is the Vic Farmer,and the LM PST II.Yep the PST II has been overtaken by newer,better models,but it has the virtue of being low profile,pocket friendly(my pockets anyway).Teamed with the Farmer,and whatever is on my keyring..I feel confident I could tackle the great majority of tasks that would crop up.
Anybody else out there thinking along the same lines?

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2007, 09:09:15 PM

I like the old school models from a collectable point of view, but in my mind there was a reason many of them have been left in the dust by newer tools. It's evolutionary to me, and I know that the tools I carry and use now will be improved on eventually too.

Of course, that doesn't keep me from hitching up one of the old horses now and then!

Def

I'm Still Bison · **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:41:23 PM

I agree,there's bunchses of multis that are best left in the dust...but however one feels about Tim Leatherman's politics..he pretty much nailed it the first time around with the PST(and PST II),and still worthy of of EDC usage. I wouldn't be surprised to see the PST in a museum alongside the SAK as models of design and function.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2007, 11:13:43 PM

That is possible, but let's remember that Tim Leatherman isn't only responsable for the current generation of multitools, but he also defined what was wrong with the current generation of multitools as well. These issues (uncomfortable handles, tool clumping, non locking tools etc) have since been remedied by various manufacturers, including Leatherman. As with the first of anything, there are bugs that need to be worked out.

As for Tim Leatherman's political views, I really don't see how they should make a difference either.

Def

parnass · **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2007, 03:01:29 AM

The simple Leatherman PST and original SuperTool served me well for several years and they still can. They haven't rusted and look to me like they were built better than the latest generation of Leatherman tools.

The screwdrivers are are right-sized and work better for me than the SOG PowerLock and Victorinox tools. They have 3 sizes of flat blade screwdrivers which can access recessed screws. The screwdrivers are not compromised by combining them with a can or bottle opener. The Phillips blade grabs screws better than the Vics.

Overall, the old Leatherman tools' function to size ratio is impressive. That said, the individual blades in newer tools like the Victorinox SwissTool and Spirit are easier to access and easier to lock.

I may be carrying the newer Vics these days, I'll keep the old Leatherman tools forever.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #5 on:** February 03, 2007, 03:18:48 AM

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The screwdrivers are not compromised by combining them with a can or bottle opener.

See now that's fascinating, because I like having multiple uses in each implement.

Def

parnass · **Reply #6 on:** February 03, 2007, 04:21:43 AM

Quote from: Defender on February 03, 2007, 03:18:48 AM

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The screwdrivers are not compromised by combining them with a can or bottle opener.

See now that's fascinating, because I like having multiple uses in each implement.

Def

The multi purpose screwdriver/can opener and screwdriver/bottle opener blades on my SOG PowerLock, for example, require ginormous clearance and cannot access deeply recessed screws like the Leatherman PST and SuperTool screwdrivers.

In the past 18 years, I cannot recall ever needing a can opener or bottle opener blade on a multitool, but I use the screwdrivers often.

Nightshade · **Reply #7 on:** February 03, 2007, 06:14:22 AM

Bison, nothin' wrong with old school. My favorite multi is the SOG Powerlock. I don't edc it though. Too much weight combined with the other tools I carry. My favorite EDC Leatherman is still the Pulse model. Only slightly larger and heavier than the PST with rounded handles and blade, tool locks. I prefer it to the Wave and current models. As long as the tool works for you, and you are comfortable with it, that is all that matters. My brother carries a battered LM Sideclip and refuses to part with it. As he proclaims, "Everything I need and nothing I never use". The PST is still a remarkable tool.

Cheviot · **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2007, 12:07:01 PM

Quote from: Defender on February 03, 2007, 03:18:48 AM

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The screwdrivers are not compromised by combining them with a can or bottle opener.

See now that's fascinating, because I like having multiple uses in each implement.

Def

That fact along with the lack of true needlenose pliers is all thats preventing me getting a Swisstool Spirit, in theory multiple uses are great, the chisel/wire scraper etc.. but a screwdriver need to turn screws first and foremost and combined with a bottle opener just comprises its first function.

As for Old School EDC its LM Sideclip all the way for me, although I have just had a pretty major career change which means I can get away with it's limited tools, in my previous role it had to be a supertool 200 (old school?) or a Core.

Rob

Tom Munch · **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2007, 04:56:18 PM

Quote from: Cheviot on February 03, 2007, 12:07:01 PM

That fact along with the lack of true needlenose pliers is all thats preventing me getting a Swisstool Spirit, in theory multiple uses are great, the chisel/wire scraper etc.. but a screwdriver need to turn screws first and foremost and combined with a bottle opener just comprises its first function.

Rob

Rob,

Don't let that stop you from getting a Spirit. At least play with one at a store. The fit & finish & the precise engineering is a marvel in the hand. It's addictive.

Tom

Cheviot · **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2007, 07:43:19 PM

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Don't let that stop you from getting a Spirit. At least play with one at a store. The fit & finish & the precise engineering is a marvel in the hand. It's addictive.

Tom,

I have a Swisstool so I know about its qualities.
I know its against the general ethos but I can't justify a Spirit for fiddle factor alone.

Rob

J-sews · **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2007, 09:12:06 PM

I'm thinking we need to develope a fiddle factor formula rating for all future multitool reviews.

Tom Munch · **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2007, 09:18:52 PM

Quote from: Cheviot on February 03, 2007, 07:43:19 PM

I have a Swisstool so I know about its qualities.

Play with a Spirit too. There is even more sensuality in the design & feel in the hand than the SwissTool. That justifies it for me.

LatinoHeat · **Reply #13 on:** February 04, 2007, 03:22:46 AM

Mmmmmm.... sensuality.........

Nightshade · **Reply #14 on:** February 04, 2007, 05:03:33 AM

A bit unsettling... $:-\$

Tom Munch · **Reply #15 on:** February 04, 2007, 07:25:53 AM

Sorry, boys. The sweet caress of the smooth steel & the solid action of the sure locks & detent stops is nothing short of sensual for me. I'm not ashamed to admit it. It's like the smell & texture of a fine grade of leather or the aroma of a seasoned sizzling steak. Ahhh...

J-sews · **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2007, 08:29:17 PM

Quote from: Tom Munch on February 04, 2007, 07:25:53 AM

Sorry, boys. The sweet caress of the smooth steel & the solid action of the sure locks & detent stops is nothing short of sensual for me. I'm not ashamed to admit it. It's like the smell & texture of a fine grade of leather or the aroma of a seasoned sizzling steak. Ahhh...

I'm feeling all flushed and tingly just thinking about it! Tom, I think you've got the makings of your first hit single here. Finish out the lyrics, add a twist or two about how jealous your Leatherman's get when you fondle your SwissTool, put a light melody in the background, and you'll be on top of the country charts in no time!

Tom Munch · **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2007, 08:31:43 PM

Uh huh.

David · **Reply #18 on:** February 14, 2009, 05:01:48 PM

Quote from: J-sews on February 03, 2007, 09:12:06 PM

I'm thinking we need to develope a fiddle factor formula rating for all future multitool reviews.

I think your on to something there. The F3 may be hard to pin down and define but it may be an interesting thing to work on and see how it developes.

David · **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:26:39 PM

On a more serious note and to get back on topic. I find myself carrying the LM Pulse or SOG P3 paired with a farmer quite often. At work I carry an LM Super Tool alot. Alot of MT`s rotate through my EDC between work and home. I find alot of old school MT`s being carried. I even carried an old SOG Power Plier the other day.

Sea Monster · **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2009, 02:22:56 AM

My current pocket stuffers are a Vic OHT & LM Kick

ignoring the saw, since I don't use it - The main benefit this selection has over a Soldier and a PST is convenience and comfort. Locking,OHO blade on the OHT, and zytel on the LM.

On the other hand, both of them are bulkier (an issue for me with my dainty appendages), less handsome, and to a degree, less satisfying to use, but I carry them anyway...cause I can?

(or because I'm more willing to damage or lose them)

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